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Marvel Nemesis Thread

*tumbleweed drifts through*

Seriously, I know some of the early reviews were mediocre, but is anyone planning to get this. I'd like some impressions too....
 
Well, if I don't see anyone drift through here in the next 15 minutes, I'll pick it up on my way home. I'm intrigued.
 
They said practically nothing about the gameplay (don't ya hate reviews like that). Ok, I'm off to pick it up then. Will chime in later.
 
Gamespot's review: 6.3

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/marvelvsea/review.html

On paper, Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects, Electronic Arts' new fighting game, has all the ingredients usually found in a wild success. If you're looking for star power, Marvel Nemesis's solid selection of beloved comic book superheroes and brand-new metahumans fits the bill; Marvel's characters use all of their classic mutant attacks and techniques, and the rookie Imperfects hold their own, too. These guys can fly all over the screen, swing on webs, and throw cars at one another, just like in the comics. Plus, all of the action takes place in various fully destructible environments, and the whole package is supported by a pretty robust online infrastructure (except in the GameCube version of the game). Unfortunately, these parts, as promising as they are, do not form a particularly appealing whole. Marvel Nemesis has been engineered in such a way that you must slog through the game's weakest parts to gain access to its best features--and you'll have to wrestle with some serious balance and gameplay issues along the way.

Uh... at least the graphics are nice.
 
I played the OXM demo, and it controlled like a nightmare. Control wise it didn't feel like a fighter at all and it was hard to get anything going.
 
They should make a Marvel game near exactly to Powerstone, but with Superheroes. That could be really cool.
 
KingV said:
They should make a Marvel game near exactly to Powerstone, but with Superheroes. That could be really cool.

That's more or less what Marvel Nemesis is, really, minus the actual Powerstones. I played it for a few hours last night, and was mildly impressed that it didn't downright blow. The combat mechanics are decent, the physics are nice, the "dark and gritty" take on the Marvel character is actually kind of interesting. On the negative side, it's repetitive, everyone has nearly identical movelists with very few moves to begin with, character balance is atrocious, and you have to play single player far too long to unlock new characters for online play.

If it looks interesting to you, it's probably worth a rental, but I wouldn't pay full price for it.
 
I'm really digging this game. I'm a big Marvel fan, so seeing these somewhat random appearances are pretty neat. I just wish there were a way to unlock their classic costums. Wolverine as a metrosexual just doesn't fly with me. I love the art style for the most part, though. The missions are pretty much repetitive as heck, but playing with different diverse characters is pretty fun. Daredevil rocks, so does Venom. They gave Electra a freaking thong. Goodness. I can't wait for the sequel if they choose to make one. Marvel's been having some pretty good games lately. I didn't give Ultimate Spider-Man that much time, but after I finish this one I will. This one is a little bit more entertaining, I suppose because of it's difficulty at times. Is Magneto in this game?
 
Never-fucking-mind, I hate this game. I'm only going see to it's end because I've gone this far. Stupid fucking AI, you're given this wonderous teleport ability, yet if you appear behind a gunner that's about to shoot, he magically still tracks you. No sniper's that good, fucking bullshit same EA cheesy cheating AI bullshit. Fucking programmers, their lazy fingers should be dipped in acid for 3 seconds. And Mageneto. How does one block a magnetic grab? Do you temporarily remove the iron from your fucking blood or titanium alloy casing? Wow, what a shitty fucking piggy experience. There's a few really good things going for this game and it had a lot of potential, but EA just shat all over it. The story is too vague and sparse for a game based on a comic book. The last good thing Marvel did as far as games go was and will remain The Hulk: Ultimate Destruction. Fucking animal guts, where's wolverine's healing factor? "Let's just give them all healing factors." Stupid shit, fuck you. My favorite character is Storm. With all those characters and potential, it's Storm. Not even the cool 80s version that knew how to fight without powers.

Sigh. I really just want to smash my xbox on the ground and stomp on it like a big baby and I've never felt that way. I've always been passive and bottled it in to digest it, but wow, this game really tests it. It's not even hardcore difficult, they just put a lot of snipers in the area and 1/2 of the game is called Guess Where You're Going To Be Attacked From because the camera blows ponies. Heed my call, Marvelites, wait for this game in the $5 bin. Anyway, let my posts in this thread prove that shithead reviewers out there should play a game through to the end before reviewing it. And no, this isn't an attack on the reviews for the game.

"Never again. For Jason"
 
I'm really confused as to why you would buy a game that got such poor reviews.

I mean just rent the thing. Don't spend 50 bucks on it.
 
Bataman said:
Never-fucking-mind, I hate this game. I'm only going see to it's end because I've gone this far. Stupid fucking AI, you're given this wonderous teleport ability, yet if you appear behind a gunner that's about to shoot, he magically still tracks you. No sniper's that good, fucking bullshit same EA cheesy cheating AI bullshit. Fucking programmers, their lazy fingers should be dipped in acid for 3 seconds. And Mageneto. How does one block a magnetic grab? Do you temporarily remove the iron from your fucking blood or titanium alloy casing? Wow, what a shitty fucking piggy experience. There's a few really good things going for this game and it had a lot of potential, but EA just shat all over it. The story is too vague and sparse for a game based on a comic book. The last good thing Marvel did as far as games go was and will remain The Hulk: Ultimate Destruction. Fucking animal guts, where's wolverine's healing factor? "Let's just give them all healing factors." Stupid shit, fuck you. My favorite character is Storm. With all those characters and potential, it's Storm. Not even the cool 80s version that knew how to fight without powers.

Sigh. I really just want to smash my xbox on the ground and stomp on it like a big baby and I've never felt that way. I've always been passive and bottled it in to digest it, but wow, this game really tests it. It's not even hardcore difficult, they just put a lot of snipers in the area and 1/2 of the game is called Guess Where You're Going To Be Attacked From because the camera blows ponies. Heed my call, Marvelites, wait for this game in the $5 bin. Anyway, let my posts in this thread prove that shithead reviewers out there should play a game through to the end before reviewing it. And no, this isn't an attack on the reviews for the game.

"Never again. For Jason"


Seek help.
 
Bataman said:
Never-fucking-mind, I hate this game. I'm only going see to it's end because I've gone this far. Stupid fucking AI, you're given this wonderous teleport ability, yet if you appear behind a gunner that's about to shoot, he magically still tracks you. No sniper's that good, fucking bullshit same EA cheesy cheating AI bullshit. Fucking programmers, their lazy fingers should be dipped in acid for 3 seconds. And Mageneto. How does one block a magnetic grab? Do you temporarily remove the iron from your fucking blood or titanium alloy casing? Wow, what a shitty fucking piggy experience. There's a few really good things going for this game and it had a lot of potential, but EA just shat all over it. The story is too vague and sparse for a game based on a comic book. The last good thing Marvel did as far as games go was and will remain The Hulk: Ultimate Destruction. Fucking animal guts, where's wolverine's healing factor? "Let's just give them all healing factors." Stupid shit, fuck you. My favorite character is Storm. With all those characters and potential, it's Storm. Not even the cool 80s version that knew how to fight without powers.

Sigh. I really just want to smash my xbox on the ground and stomp on it like a big baby and I've never felt that way. I've always been passive and bottled it in to digest it, but wow, this game really tests it. It's not even hardcore difficult, they just put a lot of snipers in the area and 1/2 of the game is called Guess Where You're Going To Be Attacked From because the camera blows ponies. Heed my call, Marvelites, wait for this game in the $5 bin. Anyway, let my posts in this thread prove that shithead reviewers out there should play a game through to the end before reviewing it. And no, this isn't an attack on the reviews for the game.

"Never again. For Jason"
Seriously, how is it?
 
10 minutes with the demo in the store and you'll see why this should be strongly avoided.

As in, protest till EA gives up the Marvel liscence.

And Capcom announces Marvel Vs Capcom 3
 
John Harker said:
10 minutes with the demo and the story and you'll see why this should be strongly avoided.

As in, protest till EA gives up the Marvel liscence.

And Capcom announces Marvel Vs Capcom 3

As I understand it, you're judging the game on its possibly strongest point, and even if EA helped the game being better than ANY OTHER MARVEL AMERICAN FIGHTING GAME, we should trust your opinion?

I don't get it. Get the IP back to Capcom? Why? So Capcom can release Marvel VS Capcom 3 : We are using the same sprites since 1997! ?
 
Bataman said:
Never-fucking-mind, I hate this game. I'm only going see to it's end because I've gone this far. Stupid fucking AI, you're given this wonderous teleport ability, yet if you appear behind a gunner that's about to shoot, he magically still tracks you. No sniper's that good, fucking bullshit same EA cheesy cheating AI bullshit. Fucking programmers, their lazy fingers should be dipped in acid for 3 seconds. And Mageneto. How does one block a magnetic grab? Do you temporarily remove the iron from your fucking blood or titanium alloy casing? Wow, what a shitty fucking piggy experience. There's a few really good things going for this game and it had a lot of potential, but EA just shat all over it. The story is too vague and sparse for a game based on a comic book. The last good thing Marvel did as far as games go was and will remain The Hulk: Ultimate Destruction. Fucking animal guts, where's wolverine's healing factor? "Let's just give them all healing factors." Stupid shit, fuck you. My favorite character is Storm. With all those characters and potential, it's Storm. Not even the cool 80s version that knew how to fight without powers.

Sigh. I really just want to smash my xbox on the ground and stomp on it like a big baby and I've never felt that way. I've always been passive and bottled it in to digest it, but wow, this game really tests it. It's not even hardcore difficult, they just put a lot of snipers in the area and 1/2 of the game is called Guess Where You're Going To Be Attacked From because the camera blows ponies. Heed my call, Marvelites, wait for this game in the $5 bin. Anyway, let my posts in this thread prove that shithead reviewers out there should play a game through to the end before reviewing it. And no, this isn't an attack on the reviews for the game.

"Never again. For Jason"

Totally agree with this post. Storm is very good along with the likes of
Paragon
(my favorite) The robotic "bees" that make the humming sound are annoying and there are serious balance issues like, Human Torch and Ironman being absolute energy whores just to fly around and stuff.

Wolverine's missions are tough too, particularly when fighting
Wink and Storm
. Just shows how inferior Wolverine is compared to the rest of the cast. No healing factor and draining energy just for using your claws is also ridiculous.

Way too much emphasis on throwing shit as well. Chuck the barrel, cars, poles and anything else you can get your grubby hands on is generally more effective than straight up attacking. Disappointing to say the least.

Only as a casual Marvel fan (from playing Marvel Vs Capcom series), did I mildly like this game, but it plagued with a lot of game play issues. Fans will definitely appreciate it and like it more, but if you're a gamer that isn't too familiar with Marvel you probably won't like it too much.
 
Littleberu said:
As I understand it, you're judging the game on its possibly strongest point, and even if EA helped the game being better than ANY OTHER MARVEL AMERICAN FIGHTING GAME, we should trust your opinion?

I don't get it. Get the IP back to Capcom? Why? So Capcom can release Marvel VS Capcom 3 : We are using the same sprites since 1997! ?

Out of any reason to argue against giving Capcom the IP again: Sprites.

Christ, you fucking fail
 
Littleberu said:
As I understand it, you're judging the game on its possibly strongest point, and even if EA helped the game being better than ANY OTHER MARVEL AMERICAN FIGHTING GAME, we should trust your opinion?

I don't get it. Get the IP back to Capcom? Why? So Capcom can release Marvel VS Capcom 3 : We are using the same sprites since 1997! ?


Opps. Well, I didn't mean the story, I meant play the demo in the STORE.
So that was my bad.

Second, you honestly think this game is better than MvsC2?

You think the EA-created characters are superior to the Capcom industry staples...?

Yea. Johnny Ohm... I'd take him over Ken and Ryu ANY DAY.

.... and we're suppose to trust your opinion?
 
John Harker said:
Opps. Well, I didn't mean the story, I meant play the demo in the STORE.
So that was my bad.

Second, you honestly think this game is better than MvsC2?

You think the EA-created characters are superior to the Capcom industry staples...?

Yea. Johnny Ohm... I'd take him over Ken and Ryu ANY DAY.

.... and we're suppose to trust your opinion?

First of all, Mark fucking Millar created the Imperfect. EA HAD NOTHING TO DO IN THE PROCESS. Marvel WANTED to create the Imperfect to begin with.

I do no think Nemesis is better than MvsC2, but it's a good beginning in the right direction. New IP, new story, new characters. In 3D, with a 3D plane. I don't recall a good 3D Capcom fighter. "Isn't Powerstone a fighter?", that's another debate.

Yes, I am disappointed that the game controls like shit and that the camera sucks ass, because It was one of my most wanted game this year. But bad design decision has nothing to do with EA. In fact, this game has a better overall presentation than any game released this year, and EA is the reason of this.

Out of any reason to argue against giving Capcom the IP again: Sprites.

Christ, you fucking fail

Sprites = generalisation of Capcom "we're on a roll about port recently".

I wouldn't be surprised if it was Marvel that decided NOT to renew with Capcom.
 
Littleberu said:
First of all, Mark fucking Millar created the Imperfect. EA HAD NOTHING TO DO IN THE PROCESS. Marvel WANTED to create the Imperfect to begin with.

Actually MM was given the Imperfects and told to make them meet a story, he did not come up with them.

I have not played the game yet- will wait for 20 bucks.

Exis
 
Zeo said:
I'm really confused as to why you would buy a game that got such poor reviews.

I mean just rent the thing. Don't spend 50 bucks on it.

I didn't buy it. Borrowed. And it doesn't really matter who created them, their first appearance in the comics is what should be used for reference from now on as the game is a turd with a few undigestable nuggets of gold in it.

Hydro_Alexis said:
:lol :lol :lol a marvel fanatic?

What? I'm crazy about marvel, but I like some other companies creations. Who's making Marvel's MMORPG? They should just make a regular RPG in the veins of oldschool final fantasies. Large cast like park VI. Why don' they? Because shit doesn't weigh as much when you're shovelling mounds and piles of it.
 
Zeo said:
I'm really confused as to why you would buy a game that got such poor reviews.

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not to bring the thread down or anything...

but from years of experience with fighting games. if it doesnt come from japanese shores... the game is going to be mediocre at best... with alot of broken elements.
 
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