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That is by far the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. No argument, just spewing hate and nonsense while not making any kind of point or talk of vaccines. Just garbage.

lol at her saying she's a minority ... while pasty white and blonde-haired.

Edit: not sure if that twitter account is satire or just another tranny nut job.
 
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That is by far the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. No argument, just spewing hate and nonsense while not making any kind of point or talk of vaccines. Just garbage.

lol at her saying she's a minority ... while pasty white and blonde-haired.

(satire)
 
I am on a conference call with the corporate owners of our healthcare facility and it's no longer a question if any of our residents/patients get covid-19 they are now planning for when and what do do with them.
 
So my gf is a cleaner at school.
She was moved to clean health center because schools are closed in Finland.
Now there was some possible corona patient who sneezed around and she was ordered to clean that room. It's not sure if the person has corona but they said there's 20% chance.
So let's say things are getting exciting, so to speak :messenger_neutral:

Update:
Welp, turns out the patient had corona.
My gf is now on a 14 day quarantine.
Proceeding further in the apocalypse larp now.
I probably didn't do enough grinding so I might be underpowered for this part of the game and I saved at the point of no return so can't cheat by loading earlier save either.
rip

btw, for some reason I'm not quarantined. They said I'm free to live normal life. Go to stores and all. Yeeeaah right... If she has it, chances are I have it too. I think I'm going to go full-on self-quarantine, if not for anything else but as a supportive action towards her.
 
NY labor unions are petitioning to Cuomo to shut down construction. Many jobs are still going on that are trivial.... bullshit security work in residential towers, etc...

All construction in the city should be shutdown that isn't emergency work for healthcare institutions, city infrastructure and other emergency work that is necessary.

I can describe how fucked up the city is right now. There is no one except construction schleps dragging their ass to work and homeless and thugs roaming about.

We are days away from mass looting and murder in NYC.

That and deblasio thinks it's right to release Riker's inmates en masse during this crisis. God I hate that pandering piece of shit.
 
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That is by far the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. No argument, just spewing hate and nonsense while not making any kind of point or talk of vaccines. Just garbage.

lol at her saying she's a minority ... while pasty white and blonde-haired.

Edit: not sure if that twitter account is satire or just another tranny nut job.

Its a parody account, it is pretty convincing because there are many genuine 'writers' like it which is scary.
 
H-E-B is a grocery chain in Texas and is one of our most iconic brands. Here's a bit about what it took this state-wide chain to prepare and keep supplies open during the pandemic and a bit of uplifting / positive info on how our state is coming together. Hope it restores some faith in humanity for some of y'all.

 
UK has 2921 new cases and 181 new deaths. Worst previously was yesterday with 115 deaths and 2129 cases. Looks like we're going parabolic :(
 

"The Friday before he died, he was healthy," the mayor said about the teenager. "By Wednesday, he was dead."

The mayor said the teen "didn't have insurance, so they did not treat him" when he arrived at an urgent care facility in the area. The medical staff then told the child to go to a local public hospital.

"En route to AV Hospital, he went into cardiac arrest," the mayor said. "They were able to revive him and keep him alive for about six hours. But by the time he got there, it was too la te."

The bestest and most powerfulest country in the world.
 
UK has 2921 new cases and 181 new deaths. Worst previously was yesterday with 115 deaths and 2129 cases. Looks like we're going parabolic :(

This will continue for a few weeks because we only just locked down.

And even then, I still don't think we will fully drop to zero, like China (LOL)
 
Sadly you may be right. I don't like it there and mostly disagree but I thought here was respectful but looser. I guess not. I'm sorry to see that you all feel this way.

Oh well.

A woman is attractive. Someone would like to have sex with her. Someone says it. The world didn't end. Dude might've been crass about it, but the world didn't end. She's still alive and well and now a few more people thinks she looks fine. Nothing wrong with liking a lady's looks.

Some people are respectful and some aren't. That's how it has been, how it is and how it will be. Getting used to that will ease a lot of frustrations and anger.
 
This will continue for a few weeks because we only just locked down.

And even then, I still don't think we will fully drop to zero, like China (LOL)

Yep, probably another 2-3 weeks from peak. In any case, the numbers will increase to the point where the UK has 6-8k new cases per day. Just remember that this is the normal course of events and not necessarily a bad development.
 
UK has 2921 new cases and 181 new deaths. Worst previously was yesterday with 115 deaths and 2129 cases. Looks like we're going parabolic :(

On the bright side, it can't go like that forever, so it will either stabilize or continue and be over in weeks.
Pentagon estimated number of infected to peak in 3 weeks (US only I guess).
 


"This is the most current video for New CDC data, safe takeout food practices, and an updated practice for safe grocery shopping/handling." (Family practice physician Dr. Jeffrey VanWingen, 3/24/20)



"I'm a Doctor on the Frontlines of COVID-19. Ask Me Anything." (3/26/20)



"China bans all foreigners from entering China." (3/26/20)
 
At least dying isn't racist

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UK has 2921 new cases and 181 new deaths. Worst previously was yesterday with 115 deaths and 2129 cases. Looks like we're going parabolic :(

The UK only really went into a more strict "lockdown" on Monday, right?

So many of the deaths from this week would have been people who got infected 2 to 4 weeks ago?

This is one of the things that the media should do a better job of reporting.
It seems pretty obvious that the deaths per day in the UK will still rise for a week or two before it should be leveling off.
Another 2 weeks before you'd see a significant reduction.
It would be better if they tried to brace people for that rather than announcing the death toll each day like it's a big surprise.

You could probably make an educated guess on when those 181 new deaths were simply new cases. I mean, an expert could make that guess. Not us.
Then you can say "OK so we would expect to see 200+ daily deaths for the next week before it goes up to 300+ and then it comes down when we are well into the effects of social distancing".

The numbers are going to be horrendous if the time from infection to death is like 3 or 4 weeks because it means that right now we are dealing with serious cases that started in February.

Maybe they just don't know.

It seems the media will only report if it is a very unusual case like a healthy 21 year old first had symptoms and then died 5 days later etc.
We need to understand how long it may take from first symptoms to recovery or death.

Idris Elba, for example, announced that he tested positive on March 16th but he had no symptoms.
He was tested as a precaution because he had been in contact with someone else who tested positive.
That person tested positive on the 13th of March so the timeline is even longer than that.
As of now 11 days later (or 14 days if you count from the 13th) he still has no symptoms.

So if you had like a 2 week period of no symptoms then a 7 day period of illness before you died then your talking about a full 3 week timeline which means todays deaths are representing infections from March 6th. Obviously approximately.
 
Worst death day yet in Lombardy... guessing we're gonna have a record day overall.



CORONAVIRUS DEATH TOLL IN ITALY'S WORST-AFFECTED LOMBARDY REGION RISES BY AROUND 541 TO SOME 5,402 - SOURCE



CORONAVIRUS CASES IN ITALY'S LOMBARDY RISE BY AROUND 2,409 IN PAST 24 HOURS TO SOME 37,298 -SOURCE

Yesterday was 2500ish, high was 3200, so it's staying stable, but not rising.
 
Worst death day yet in Lombardy... guessing we're gonna have a record day overall.



CORONAVIRUS DEATH TOLL IN ITALY'S WORST-AFFECTED LOMBARDY REGION RISES BY AROUND 541 TO SOME 5,402 - SOURCE



CORONAVIRUS CASES IN ITALY'S LOMBARDY RISE BY AROUND 2,409 IN PAST 24 HOURS TO SOME 37,298 -SOURCE

Yesterday was 2500ish, high was 3200, so it's staying stable, but not rising.


Damn, all these lives lost is sad.
 
Worst death day yet in Lombardy... guessing we're gonna have a record day overall.



CORONAVIRUS DEATH TOLL IN ITALY'S WORST-AFFECTED LOMBARDY REGION RISES BY AROUND 541 TO SOME 5,402 - SOURCE



CORONAVIRUS CASES IN ITALY'S LOMBARDY RISE BY AROUND 2,409 IN PAST 24 HOURS TO SOME 37,298 -SOURCE

Yesterday was 2500ish, high was 3200, so it's staying stable, but not rising.

Deaths lagging behind new cases would make sense tho. Hope they don't jump again.
 
Woke up , got to work , open gaf ..........


What the fuck is going on here?? What am i reading what is all this?

Its like the zombies come out every time i go to bed.
 
So number crunchers out there.

With 1 in 10 symptomatics being tested as negative, do you think that means that we would see 1 in 10 for asypmtomatic, high or lower?

Is it more likely they are more people without symptoms that also maybe don't ever get serious, or less people?

Would you say a higher positive rate is better because it means you are focusing in and finding more cases, or worse because it means more of the population is infected?
 
I give this lockdown stuff another week before people start going crazy

Just the assholes and losers.
Doctors, Nurses and other healthcare professionals will be working for months on end to save these fuckwads, and they can't even sit the fuck at home?
Selfish Cunths the lot of them.
 
No way we're staying under a 100k deaths globally. Even if the death rate were to stay constant for the next three weeks, that'd already be a total of 85k deaths. If the effect of the mitigation efforts start to kick in soon we might see a few hundred thousand globally.
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So number crunchers out there.

With 1 in 10 symptomatics being tested as negative, do you think that means that we would see 1 in 10 for asypmtomatic, high or lower?

Is it more likely they are more people without symptoms that also maybe don't ever get serious, or less people?

Would you say a higher positive rate is better because it means you are focusing in and finding more cases, or worse because it means more of the population is infected?
The accuracy of the test isn't necessarily related to the number of asymptomatic patients
 
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Seems like megacities are hit the hardest and are doing the worst job of containing it. Out of Michigan's 2856 cases and 60 deaths, 2404 cases and 52 deaths are from the greater Detroit area.

And before anyone asks the next logical question, the area contains 4.54 million of the population out of 10 million. Less than half the population accounts for over 80% of the cases. Hospitals in these cities are hit the hardest, too.

Zombie apocalypse logic prevails: stay away from cities.
 
Seems like megacities are hit the hardest and are doing the worst job of containing it. Out of Michigan's 2856 cases and 60 deaths, 2404 cases and 52 deaths are from the greater Detroit area.

And before anyone asks the next logical question, the area contains 4.54 million of the population out of 10 million. Less than half the population accounts for over 80% of the cases. Hospitals in these cities are hit the hardest, too.

Zombie apocalypse logic prevails: stay away from cities.

lol and those of us that live here and take care of patients here. We are doomed Kacho Kacho
 
I'm not sure I understand the "competition" to point out which country now has the most cases.

If a country is reporting more cases then surely this is not much more than an indication of more testing?

USA, for example has 1,302 confirmed deaths (approx 4 per million population).
The UK has 578 confirmed deaths (approx 9 per million population).

These are low compared to Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland, Belgium and Netherlands.

Yet everyone is desperate to demand that there is more testing and then freak out when more testing results in more confirmed cases, despite not changing the number of deaths.

It's interesting to compare the USA to Germany.
The Germans had major outbreaks before the US.
USA population is 320 million approx. Germany is 82 million approx.
So the US has twice has many cases as Germany but has 4 times the population.
The deaths per million for Germany is 3. The USA is 4.

Yet people are freaking out like the USA is having some catastrophic meltdown while the Germans are perceived as doing really well.
All over a difference of 1 death per million people.

For me there is HUGE scope to criticize the media here.
This is a time for serious, unbiased, coverage that INFORMS the public.
Instead it's just about how to generate the most fear.

Yeah, its really annoying. People have been screaming for weeks for more testing and how we need to test everyone all the time every day. We finally get a ton of testing and now they are freaking out about just how many people are testing positive (even if the negative rate is still extremely high). Infodemic indeed.
 
No way we're staying under a 100k deaths globally. Even if the death rate were to stay constant for the next two weeks, that'd already be a total of 85k deaths. If the effect of the mitigation efforts start to kick in soon we might see a few hundred thousand globally.
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The accuracy of the test isn't necessarily related to the number of asymptomatic patients

So you think there are more asymptomatic people or less?

If for now we are testing only sick people I wonder if more people don't get sick enough to get tested, or if testers are doing a good job in hunting down the virus.
 
I'm not sure I understand the "competition" to point out which country now has the most cases.

If a country is reporting more cases then surely this is not much more than an indication of more testing?

USA, for example has 1,302 confirmed deaths (approx 4 per million population).
The UK has 578 confirmed deaths (approx 9 per million population).

These are low compared to Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland, Belgium and Netherlands.

Yet everyone is desperate to demand that there is more testing and then freak out when more testing results in more confirmed cases, despite not changing the number of deaths.

It's interesting to compare the USA to Germany.
The Germans had major outbreaks before the US.
USA population is 320 million approx. Germany is 82 million approx.
So the US has twice has many cases as Germany but has 4 times the population.
The deaths per million for Germany is 3. The USA is 4.

Yet people are freaking out like the USA is having some catastrophic meltdown while the Germans are perceived as doing really well.
All over a difference of 1 death per million people.

For me there is HUGE scope to criticize the media here.
This is a time for serious, unbiased, coverage that INFORMS the public.
Instead it's just about how to generate the most fear.

It's been like that since this thread started. People are cheerleading everyone on the planet dying and ignore any positive news.
 
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i have two questions that i am hoping someone can help me with ..

1) For the US - shouldn't we be on the tail end of Flu season? once flu season is over, shouldn't this help ease hospital capacity

and more importantly..

2) we talk about pre-existing conditions and how those with pre-existing conditions are more susceptible.. but is it the actual condition or the meds that person may be on that is contributing to them being more susceptible ?
 
What a childish thing to say. You're scum dude. I'm sure she's just dying to have a chance with you.

You're fucking scum. How does shit like this get by the mods?

There's plenty of other places to dehumanize people over using language you don't like, but that's typically not welcome here anymore.

Sadly you may be right. I don't like it there and mostly disagree but I thought here was respectful but looser. I guess not. I'm sorry to see that you all feel this way.

Oh well.

I mean... it is. Making crude jokes about public figures (that they will never see) should not warrant being called "scum" by fellow community members. That's why people are coming down on you.
 
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Seems like megacities are hit the hardest and are doing the worst job of containing it. Out of Michigan's 2856 cases and 60 deaths, 2404 cases and 52 deaths are from the greater Detroit area.

And before anyone asks the next logical question, the area contains 4.54 million of the population out of 10 million. Less than half the population accounts for over 80% of the cases. Hospitals in these cities are hit the hardest, too.

Zombie apocalypse logic prevails: stay away from cities.

It makes sense. Small places with dense populations, this thing spreads pretty easy. You got cramped public transportation and building/condo elevators. Makes it real easy for the virus to cause havoc. That's why I bailed out of Toronto before things really get ugly there.
 
Seems like megacities are hit the hardest and are doing the worst job of containing it
Personally I'd be okay if the end result of the virus is to encourage a lot of people to leave mega cities and move elsewhere.

I can't help but think most of today's ills are caused by the idiocy of mega cities.

San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, NYC, Toronto all have some seriously fucked up notions of how the world should work (and are very leftist, imagine that)
 
i have two questions that i am hoping someone can help me with ..

1) For the US - shouldn't we be on the tail end of Flu season? once flu season is over, shouldn't this help ease hospital capacity

For parts of the US it is. It's going to hit 80 degrees in some parts of SoCal next week.

and more importantly..

2) we talk about pre-existing conditions and how those with pre-existing conditions are more susceptible.. but is it the actual condition or the meds that person may be on that is contributing to them being more susceptible ?

It's the condition.
 
i have two questions that i am hoping someone can help me with ..

1) For the US - shouldn't we be on the tail end of Flu season? once flu season is over, shouldn't this help ease hospital capacity

and more importantly..

2) we talk about pre-existing conditions and how those with pre-existing conditions are more susceptible.. but is it the actual condition or the meds that person may be on that is contributing to them being more susceptible ?

This has been one of the worst Flu seasons in years according to the CDC. 180K people in hospitals. thats about 25-30 K a month. Thats taking up a lot of beds. I also think that its possible the Flu is making this worse.

As far as 2, I don't think we know yet.
 
It makes sense. Small places with dense populations, this thing spreads pretty easy. You got cramped public transportation and building/condo elevators. Makes it real easy for the virus to cause havoc. That's why I bailed out of Toronto before things really get ugly there.
Smart move.

Personally I'd be okay if the end result of the virus is to encourage a lot of people to leave mega cities and move elsewhere.

I can't help but think most of today's ills are caused by the idiocy of mega cities.

San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, NYC, Toronto all have some seriously fucked up notions of how the world should work (and are very leftist, imagine that)
I expect that will be one end result of the Wuhan pandemic.

I've been saying for awhile that internet is The Great Decentralizer in numerous ways. Businesses are getting wise to it and building facilities in Nowhere, Flyover USA for insane cuts to their overhead with virtually no loss to productivity or connectivity.

Add in the fear of catching it from the 15,000 residents who live within a square mile of yourself and the fear of your local hospital being too strained to provide lifesaving services and suddenly the burbs don't look so bad.
 
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That is by far the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. No argument, just spewing hate and nonsense while not making any kind of point or talk of vaccines. Just garbage.

lol at her saying she's a minority ... while pasty white and blonde-haired.

Edit: not sure if that twitter account is satire or just another tranny nut job.

She's a comedian parodying woke culture - Just YouTube her act.
 
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