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Can any Canadian confirm this chart?

If you're employed, as long as you earned $5000, you're eligible for the $2000 monthly payment? As in, you don't have to quit your job to still get the money from the Canada Emergency Response Benefit?

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I am pretty sure you only get that $2000 if you are not working. I can't see me working and getting $2000 on top of that.

My wife works part time in a nursing home and she doesn't want to stop working, despite the fact we still have to get someone to watch our kid and the $2000 is more than she will get after taxes. Kind of frustrating.
 
CNN is doing a town hall with Fauci. It's really just a shit on Trump town hall.

I think you can look at this issue from the bright side.

Since Trump has a track record of big mouth, e.g., "down to 0 in a few days", during this, people who do not like Trump should be happy that it is Trump the president they can joke, laugh at, and blame to relieve them from their panic.

Many vocal Trump supporters that I know don't take Trump's "trash posting/bullshit" (their words) literally.

So I view Trump being president is good for both sides (emotionally) during this difficult times.
 
It's strange but in a good way how my home country of Greece has so little cases of the virus considering how parts of Europe are really getting hit hard. Last I heard less then 30 deaths and less then 1000 cases.

Greece
Coronavirus Cases:

892
Deaths:
27
Recovered:
36


But the last thing we need is this as we are just in the early stages of economic recovery.
 
They kept pressing him to debunk the thing about Hydroxychloroquine to shit on Trump. They had a caller call in who used it for Lupis and the guy can't get it because it's being used to treat patients in New York. They tried to get him to shit on Trump for pushing it as a game changer.
Cool thanks. Was he reciprocating?
 
Just omagine a second wave..would be like :

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Everyone seems to say that your immune. Even Dr. Campbell who has been on the very cautious side agrees in immunity.

I think China's 14% number is most likely they have crappy test (as per the other news about 30% of them being Shiiiite) and just releasing people to fudge their numbers.
 
Yes. Anything below 75k adjusted gross income will get the full amount. After 75k take away $50 per $1000 adjusted gross income. So at $99k and above the amount would be $0.
My friend is very happy I let him know about all this. He wasn't aware it even goes to people employed.

He said next time we hang out he'll cook me a dinner or whatever lol.

Still though both he and his wife work in non essential businesses. Like I mean is Zia Records and a plant and pot (the holder, not the ganja) staying open worth risking people's help. But then again my friend does not have to stress on bills.
 
My friend is very happy I let him know about all this. He wasn't aware it even goes to people employed.

He said next time we hang out he'll cook me a dinner or whatever lol.

Still though both he and his wife work in non essential businesses. Like I mean is Zia Records and a plant and pot (the holder, not the ganja) staying open worth risking people's help. But then again my friend does not have to stress on bills.

Hopefully he used direct deposit when doing his last tax filing (either this year or last). Having done so should get his refund sometime in April. From what I read if they don't have direct deposit info then it takes longer for a check to be mailed.
 


Same scenes happened in Wuhan 2 months ago, one month ago happened in Italy, now it is happening on NYC
NYC has one of the advanced medical care system in the U.S. If other states don't react more quickly and enforce social distance policy, the situation would be more worse than NYC. Imagine Florida and Michigan encounter similar condition.
 
Here is a new set from my partyboy from the stingzone .
Toilet paper hand sani everything.
Lets party away to lighten up the mood .
And i do believe he is from italy.

 
This is an interesting Twitter string:


Hella interesting if true. The one-two punch seems to be 1) hospital capacity should be fine if we do reasonable social distancing, and 2) tons of people already have this and are asymptomatic (and therefore herd immunity comes into play soon). Looking forward to seeing experts dissect this over the next couple days.
 
Hella interesting if true. The one-two punch seems to be 1) hospital capacity should be fine if we do reasonable social distancing, and 2) tons of people already have this and are asymptomatic (and therefore herd immunity comes into play soon). Looking forward to seeing experts dissect this over the next couple days.
Yeahhhhh - he clarified.

 
When this is all over, the only thing I want to know is why was it slow to roll out testing?

1. Trump says "Meh" and doesn't pull the trigger on testing. This seems like it's not something that is in his wheel house, why would he make this call?

2. The tests were bad. We kind of have confirmation on this, but how was Canada so proficient in early testing?

We apparently have testing rolling now and are testing at a high level, but in the USA - what was the hold up?

There have been investigations.

1. FDA approved an emergency test approval procedure that was heavily weighted such that only the CDC could pass it. State labs, public private partnerships like Mayo, and private businesses had no hope of meeting requirements. Requirements like you had to show that it was effective at catching MERS and SARS, which means you had to have samples of those viruses. Who has those viruses, why the CDC of course

2. FDA only approves the CDC test.

3. CDC test is mass produced. Mass produced version does not work. Unclear at this time why but may be a faulty reagent.

4. FDA panics at this point, as private and governmental labs have been begging to be allowed to produce their own tests. They slightly reduce requirements to get approval, but still disqualify the vast majority of capable entities

5. Pace of testing is glacial, so finally FDA basically drops all the regulatory hurdles.

6. Some weeks later, there are a multiple tests and large scale testing ramps up.

I hear alot of criticism of Trump that he needs to listen more to the career medical professionals at the CDC and elsewhere in government. But it was the fuckup of those career people that directly led to the piss poor testing early on. It was not the private sector that failed or the states that failed. It was terrible regulations and over confident bureaucrats at the federal level that failed. The bucks stops at Trump and he is partly responsible, but the idea that the Federal government is the solution if just Trump wasn't there is not backed up by recent history. The places that have stepped up are public/private partnerships like Mayo clinic, state labs and agencies, and the private sector.
 

This order doesn't really make sense for the US as a whole. Germany (500 in a million) currently has twice the rate of infection as the US (250 in a million) according to worldometer.com.

I'd recommend avoiding New York City and the surrounding areas. Maybe you could add a few other hot spots, but the vast majority of the country is relatively fine all things considered.
 
There have been investigations.

1. FDA approved an emergency test approval procedure that was heavily weighted such that only the CDC could pass it. State labs, public private partnerships like Mayo, and private businesses had no hope of meeting requirements. Requirements like you had to show that it was effective at catching MERS and SARS, which means you had to have samples of those viruses. Who has those viruses, why the CDC of course

2. FDA only approves the CDC test.

3. CDC test is mass produced. Mass produced version does not work. Unclear at this time why but may be a faulty reagent.

4. FDA panics at this point, as private and governmental labs have been begging to be allowed to produce their own tests. They slightly reduce requirements to get approval, but still disqualify the vast majority of capable entities

5. Pace of testing is glacial, so finally FDA basically drops all the regulatory hurdles.

6. Some weeks later, there are a multiple tests and large scale testing ramps up.

I hear alot of criticism of Trump that he needs to listen more to the career medical professionals at the CDC and elsewhere in government. But it was the fuckup of those career people that directly led to the piss poor testing early on. It was not the private sector that failed or the states that failed. It was terrible regulations and over confident bureaucrats at the federal level that failed. The bucks stops at Trump and he is partly responsible, but the idea that the Federal government is the solution if just Trump wasn't there is not backed up by recent history. The places that have stepped up are public/private partnerships like Mayo clinic, state labs and agencies, and the private sector.
Thanks for this, d.

Do you have a source for this? It's very interesting.
 
Yeahhhhh - he clarified.


I only skimmed the New Scientist article earlier, but read it more closely this time, and it does indeed say that CV transmissibility is higher, and that the assumption of lots of people being infected but asymptomatic doesn't line up with observations of reality. Meaning, the apocalypse just got a little worse.
 
Dr. David Agus on Stern said that the virus isn't gonna live on the surfaces of food. So he said if you order out food, throw away the containers and disinfect anything the containers or bag was resting on, but he said it's safe to eat.

He also said, and I suspected as much, that the tests that show the virus can live up to 3 or 4 days on X number of surfaces doesn't mean they are still infectious after those 3 days. It just means the virus isn't completely dead, but he says it may not still be infectious at that point. But just take precautions.
 
Thanks for this, d.

Do you have a source for this? It's very interesting.


I know people are going to claim it is a biased source but it is the most comprehensive. There are confirmations on some details in the WaPo and NYT, for example that the US chose to only pursue the CDC test initially and it failed. You can look at the Presidents own news conference on getting rid of regulations on testing for some other confirmation. This is the only place though I have seen that discusses the initial regulatory hurdles to testing and why the CDC test was the only one pursued initially. Most of the sources are linked in the article.
 
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I know people are going to claim it is a biased source but it is the most comprehensive. There are confirmations on some details in the WaPo and NYT, for example that the US chose to only pursue the CDC test initially and it failed. You can look at the Presidents own news conference on getting rid of regulations on testing for some other confirmation. This is the only place though I have seen that discusses the initial regulatory hurdles to testing and why the CDC test was the only one pursued initially.
Thanks so much. I really appreciate it.
 
So when he does something you think its right it was his little hands, but when you dont agree "it was just the list he was given".

You see what you wanna see, and this is pointless if hes your favorite player. Im sure you also believe when he says "nobody knows about this *insert something* than I do", including when he was talking about a vaccine, and then prompts the question "if you take a solid flu vaccine, wouldnt that work?", which definetly shows hes quite knowledgeable.

'Murica!

No, he literally said in his presser that he did not pick the countries, they were given to him. He was pushed about UK specifically, and he said if the numbers changed, he was sure the experts would ban them too.

I am reporting what he said. You are flailing about without facts on your side and calling me the delusional one.
 
A friend of mine got home from Mexico last Weds, came down with symptoms on Monday and got confirmed he was positive yesterday.

Now he's quarantined to his basement so his wife and kids don't risk catching it. We were worried they weren't going to take self isolation seriously, and thank fuck they did. I told my gf if she went and hung out with them before the 14 days was up she'd be self isolating with them.

Dropped some groceries on their back porch today and can't wait to hear his story once he is recovered.
 
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Rapid increase in coronavirus cases aboard US aircraft carrier
From CNN's Michael Conte, Ryan Browne and Barbara Starr


There are now 25 sailors who have tested positive for the coronavirus aboard the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, just two days after the Pentagon announced that three sailors aboard the ship had tested positive for the virus, a Navy official has confirmed to CNN.

The Navy says they expect there to be additional positive tests among the crew, with one official telling CNN there could possibly be "dozens" of new cases that emerge. A second official said that were there to be a large number of additional cases, the Defense

Department would be unlikely to publicly specify how many of the Navy's overall cases are amongst members of the crew of the Roosevelt, due to concerns that adversaries such as China or North Korea could see the ship as vulnerable.

Despite the outbreak, Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Mike Gilday said in a statement, "we are confident that our aggressive response will keep USS Theodore Roosevelt able to respond to any crisis in the region."

Earlier in the day, acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly had said there were "several" more cases onboard the ship, but did not give a specific number.

"We are in the process now of testing 100% of the crew of that ship to ensure that we're able to contain whatever spread might've occurred," Modly told reporters at the Pentagon at a briefing Thursday morning. There are approximately 5,000 personnel on board the carrier.

 
Fucking lockdown in an apt building suuuucks. Every douchebag that would usually be out partying stays home and plays their shitty dance music LOUD
 
This order doesn't really make sense for the US as a whole. Germany (500 in a million) currently has twice the rate of infection as the US (250 in a million) according to worldometer.com.

I'd recommend avoiding New York City and the surrounding areas. Maybe you could add a few other hot spots, but the vast majority of the country is relatively fine all things considered.
And the CFR in Germany is way lower and US just added double the cases as Germany did, so it's looking out to catch up real quick. Looking at data as just a snapshot in this pandemic has lead to some assessments that got old very fast. The trends aren't looking great for the US at the moment, and that's what an order like that from Germany tries to anticipate.
 
This order doesn't really make sense for the US as a whole. Germany (500 in a million) currently has twice the rate of infection as the US (250 in a million) according to worldometer.com.

I'd recommend avoiding New York City and the surrounding areas. Maybe you could add a few other hot spots, but the vast majority of the country is relatively fine all things considered.
That's only because Germany is testing a hell-of-a-lot more. It wouldn't surprise me if the REAL infections per capita in the US were higher.
 
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That's only because Germany is testing a hell-of-a-lot more. It wouldn't surprise me if the REAL infections per capita in the US were more.

I don't think a bunch of states are taking it seriously. My parents phoned last night and said they only had 3 more golf games before they got to come home.

They are in AZ and numbers reported are so low, they figure it's a myth or something.

Meanwhile my family is on full lockdown, with no school for the last 2 weeks and only me going out into the "danger zone" to go to work and home.
 
I honestly thought this was made up 2 weeks ago. Now I have a brother in emergency room.. a brother in law and his son, my nephew, he has the coronavirus and pneumonia on top of that. God help us all. It's depressing. And now my brothers job said if he doesn't have a doctors note they will fire him. He is a delivery man. And has a family. We just found out about this as he kept this to himself. It's supper sad and wish there is something I can do for him. Besides helping out with mortgage and food... we are a big family and can help each other but when it comes health .. nothing we can do .. just pray and I'm not sure if that works. I guess I'm saying this because this can happen to anyone.. my nephew is only 22 , my brother 46 and my brother in law almost 60. All of them have already been in the hospital once, but now they got a lot worse.
 
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I honestly thought this was made up 2 weeks ago. Now I have a brother in emergency room.. a brother in law and his son, my nephew, he has the coronavirus and pneumonia on top of that. God help us all. It's depressing. And now my brothers job said if he doesn't have a doctors note they will fire him. He is a delivery man. And has a family. We just found out about this as he kept this to himself. It's supper sad and wish there is something I can do for him. Besides helping out with mortgage and food... we are a big family and can help each other but when it comes health .. nothing we can do .. just pray and I'm not sure if that works. I guess I'm saying this because this can happen to anyone.. my nephew is only 22 , my brother 46 and my brother in law almost 60. All of them have already been in the hospital once, but now they got a lot worse.
Funny thing is in a Canada it's not a "boomer cleaner" it's wiping guys 34-54 GenX and earlier Millennials are getting pinched off.

My friend I mentioned earlier is in his mid 30s.

I do worry for my dad either in AZ or when he comes home.
 
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