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Of course if, say, CNN is anti-Trump and the CCP is too, they will at times be able to use CNN's content to support their ideological stance

I think this is probably closer to the truth, although I would be extremely surprised if there was not financial incentive for CNN to be pro China as well.

We know that Warner Media cares very much about the Chinese market, and you don't get to do business in China unless you express pro-China sentiment as we have seen time and time again.

Building Our Chinese Presence

Time Warner and China’s leading investment fund focusing on media and entertainment, China Media Capital (CMC), today announced formation of a strategic investment partnership meant to capitalize on China’s rapidly expanding media sector. The announcement came during the 2013 FORTUNE Global...

www.warnermediagroup.com

Either way, back to CNN, it's clear they hate Trump and believe it is their duty to try and remove him from office (for whatever reason), so that more often than not just means their interests align more with China than with anything the president is doing.

 

[gela94]

This CNN report is accurate and reflects the European sentiment.

We would prefer a liberal US as a partner in the world, but since the US is abandoning the liberal alliance, the EU will look for partners elsewhere.
China certainly isn't a preferred choice, but you can't afford to choose who's help you accept during a pandemic.

Currently, China is a much more reliable partner than the US because they act rationally. The US doesn't which makes meaningful cooperation impossible.

This isn't news, though. The US has rapidly lost its global standing over the past 3 years. The work of more than half a century has been undone in not even a single term.

But this shouldn't come as a surprise. It was Trump's outspoken goal.

China a reliable partner are you kidding?? Or do you not know what kind of shit the CCP pulled?

 

[Nymphae]

This was paywalled, found a screenshot, interesting take

The paper reckons that 7m Americans were infected from March 8th to 14th, and official data show 7,000 deaths three weeks later. The resulting fatality rate is 0.1%, similar to that of flu. That is amazingly low, just a tenth of some other estimates.

 

[PrellboGark]

We know that Warner Media cares very much about the Chinese market, and you don't get to do business in China unless you express pro-China sentiment as we have seen time and time again.

"Orwell's vision of a horrible future, which was a boot stomping on a human face forever, is a utopian image because he assumed there would be resistance and human faces..."

China a reliable partner are you kidding?? Or do you not know what kind of shit the CCP pulled?

I think this is lost in translation. A better English term instead of "reliable" would be "predictable".

China in its goals is very predictable. Authoritarian and brutal, but not irrational.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

edit: nevermind, getting a bit too off topic..

 

[Loki]

I'm paraphrasing your own admission ("I don't really keep up on politics (and much less the media)")

The mainstream media is already aimed at low-information viewers such as yourself, but if you're too lazy to even use that, how do you expect anonymous posts on a videogame forum to bring you up to speed?

Clearly your failure to invest effort into seeking out this information is to blame. Puffing out your chest about how skeptical you are is empty bluster.

Yeah...no. I, fortunately, long ago realized that the media and political establishments in this country are a dog and pony show, and only serve to further the interests of the elite at the expense of the average American. Thus I intentionally don't keep up with them. It's not a failure of effort - it's a conscious decision. However, if if were the case that a foreign government had tangible ties to our major media outlets, that is something different, and something I would be interested in knowing. The certitude with which many folks in this thread are asserting that outlets like CNN (I think I even saw some folks saying Fox News) are CCP shills led me to believe that it had been established in some manner that these outlets were beholden to Chinese interests. Hence I was asking them to point me to some evidence for those claims. If that's not the case, then fine. But you're making an issue where there is none. It was an honest question.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Yeah...no. I, fortunately, long ago realized that the media and political establishments in this country are a dog and pony show, and only serve to further the interests of the elite at the expense of the average American. Thus I intentionally don't keep up with them. It's not a failure of effort - it's a conscious decision. However, if if were the case that a foreign government had tangible ties to our major media outlets, that is something different, and something I would be interested in knowing. The certitude with which many folks in this thread are asserting that outlets like CNN (I think I even saw some folks saying Fox News) are CCP shills led me to believe that it had been established in some manner that these outlets were beholden to Chinese interests. Hence I was asking them to point me to some evidence for those claims. If that's not the case, then fine. But you're making an issue where there is none. It was an honest question.

Asking for a source while turning up your nose at the idea of using sources from a "dog and pony show" is amusing. Either you already have your own list of trustworthy sources and have been too lazy to use them, or you are a low-info consumer who wants to be spoonfed yet is playing the aloof skeptic to feel intellectual in the process.

"Just starting a conversation/ just asking questions" is an old act, friend. This isn't the early 90s. Internet behavior is pretty easy to see through.

 

[Jtibh]

This isn't a race issue.
Whether it is black people at the cookout or white people in the church, they're all idiots.

The same nonsense started in Germany when Italy's cases started to skyrocket and some people in Germany were disparagingly blaming Italian "culture and mentality" for the quick spread.



I think people on Era care even less about perspectives that are not US-centric than people on here.

But seriously.
Trump ran on an anti-globalist platform and took anti-globalist steps.
The result is that global alliances will look for other partners and the void the US leaves is filled by China to an extent.

What part of this do you disagree with?

Let me throw this at you.
First of i am originaly from europe so i know whats going on there and its a fucking joke and fuck merkel that cunt.

Second after moving to canada and living here for almost 20 years i can tell you china has its hands in everything here. China is very bad for us but our goverment keeps selling the whole country to them. And we get jack shit in return so we the people fuckin hate china and its goverment. Not the chinese people .
Our liberal politics ruined this great country where the only way out is to separate from canada which i can only hope for.

So i am on the trump train and the america first train.

If trufuckyoudodo would had not sent all our ppe to china and if he would closed the borders to china which he didnt due to chinese controll we would have a lot less issues then we have now.

US is doing the right thing by taking care of itself FIRST.

This whole help everybody and deal with your own problem later is what killed europe taking in million ls of migrants but their own people are living paycheck to paycheck etc.

I am rambling i have a headache and i am at work trying to finish my project and on the phone so with more time and sanity i could write you a nice asa

 

[Romulus]

If you think this is something only a troll would say I really recommend leaving your bubble from time to time, because that sentiment is widespread across Europe and the world.

"America First", attacking NATO, leaving the Paris Agreement, warming up to autocrats and constantly working against the intentions of international institutions signalled to allies that this western liberal era we've lived in since WW2 has come to an end.

With the exception of the nationalist fringe in Europe(10-20% of voters depending on the country), Trump is universally hated here.


China is using this situation obviously. The US losing influence leaves room for China to step in and gain that influence.

It might not be just a troll opinion, but it's less sensible in my view

I think Trump's America first is nice change honestly. Maybe too aggressive yes, but I'll continue to take a chance on it versus the democratic toe sucking of allies and enemies alike. Never again.

The problem with pushing the democratic agenda is many intelligent people in the middle see the current administration, while humorous, as a better choice. Even with a world pandemic that the US is handling terribly, Obama's endorsement of Biden, Trump's long list of failures, he'll still win in the coming election. The dems cant convince the middle with their "hope" bullshit, impeachment diversions, isn't more of the same. Sure, we're burning some bridges, but it's nice to have someone who's at least not bowing at every foreigners' feet and stuffing their pockets with billions of dollars.

That said I consider myself very environmental conscious too, and I absolutely hate some of Trump's decisions, but he'll continue to get my vote because I'm not playing the dems game. America needs to get back to basics, and Trump's position will pave the way for better versions of himself in the future.

 

[Nymphae]

Innovative, hilariously idiotic, whatever.

 

[Loki]

Asking for a source while turning up your nose at the idea of using sources from a "dog and pony show" is amusing. Either you already have your own list of trustworthy sources and have been too lazy to use them, or you are a low-info consumer who wants to be spoonfed yet is playing the aloof skeptic to feel intellectual in the process.

"Just starting a conversation/ just asking questions" is an old act, friend. This isn't the early 90s. Internet behavior is pretty easy to see through.

My request was for ANY information, not those from 'establishment" sources only. I could then read it and determine its merit (or lack thereof) for myself. Thus there is no contradiction in the request like you're implying in your first sentence. You continue to impute motives that don't exist - and THAT is something that's both juvenile and transparent. I'm done with you.

 

[rykomatsu]

Innovative, hilariously idiotic, whatever.

Diversity quota?

 

[Jtibh]

Diversity quota?

Who cares, she hot , would bang.

 

[cryptoadam]

This was paywalled, found a screenshot, interesting take

Low CFR is nice, but it doesn't change the reality on the ground that we saw in Italy/Spain/UK/USA/Canada etc... Especially for the elderly where the CFR is much much higher even if we factor into account all the people that aren't tested.

What we need to do is get that poo testing going. They can test our sewage to get an estimate of the IFR. So I would like to see more poo tests to get a better understanding of IFR rates in various cities/districts. That will probably be one of the best stools....er I mean tools to get us back to work.

 

[cryptoadam]

Innovative, hilariously idiotic, whatever.

What would be more inovative would be a face mask without the mask! If there is no mask there would be no problem with breathing.

And I bet if I didn't buy this maskless mask I would be called racist.

 

[PrellboGark]

Let me throw this at you.
First of i am originaly from europe so i know whats going on there and its a fucking joke and fuck merkel that cunt.

Second after moving to canada and living here for almost 20 years i can tell you china has its hands in everything here. China is very bad for us but our goverment keeps selling the whole country to them. And we get jack shit in return so we the people fuckin hate china and its goverment. Not the chinese people .
Our liberal politics ruined this great country where the only way out is to separate from canada which i can only hope for.

So i am on the trump train and the america first train.

If trufuckyoudodo would had not sent all our ppe to china and if he would closed the borders to china which he didnt due to chinese controll we would have a lot less issues then we have now.

US is doing the right thing by taking care of itself FIRST.

This whole help everybody and deal with your own problem later is what killed europe taking in million ls of migrants but their own people are living paycheck to paycheck etc.

I am rambling i have a headache and i am at work trying to finish my project and on the phone so with more time and sanity i could write you a nice asa

Well that's nice and all, but at the end of the day you will have to admit that the US's role in world politics has been diminished a lot under Trump. And that was even something Trump campaigned on, so it shouldn't come as a surprise now.

And "taking care of itself first" is also nice, but considering the case numbers and deaths in the US it apparently didn't work out at all.
The problem wasn't the "America First" approach, but rather a lack of expertise in the administration. Especially a lack of trust in science, which is also a trait Trump made abundantly clear in the election.


See, I'm a democrat, not in the US sense of Democratic Party but in the sense of the word.
I appreciated Trump as a populist who clearly stated his positions, much more clearly than presidential candidates before him.
And many voters liked that and voted for it.
Now they will have to live with what they voted for.
But when I read some comments here I get the feeling that some are not getting the connection between what Trump said over the past couple of years and the things that are now happening as a result of that.

China gaining influence is a result of Trump's politics.(1)
Europe distancing itself from the US is a result of Trump's politics.(2)
A pandemic going horribly in the US is a result of Trump's politics.(3)
And massive wealth redistribution from bottom to top is also a result of Trumps' politics.(4)

(1) He campaigned on leaving and fighting international institutions.
(2) He constantly attack the EU and the EU value foundation.
(3) He always rejected science and expert opinions.
(4) He literally ran on tax breaks for the rich and corporations and celebrated when hundreds of billions went into stock buybacks that made rich people richer.


This is what the people wanted, now they have to own it.

The Coronavirus is a catalyst for many developments that were going on anyway, but the things happening now aren't random. They are the predictable result of policies, words, and actions.

 

[Loki]

I think this is probably closer to the truth, although I would be extremely surprised if there was not financial incentive for CNN to be pro China as well.

We know that Warner Media cares very much about the Chinese market, and you don't get to do business in China unless you express pro-China sentiment as we have seen time and time again.

Building Our Chinese Presence

Time Warner and China’s leading investment fund focusing on media and entertainment, China Media Capital (CMC), today announced formation of a strategic investment partnership meant to capitalize on China’s rapidly expanding media sector. The announcement came during the 2013 FORTUNE Global...

www.warnermediagroup.com

Either way, back to CNN, it's clear they hate Trump and believe it is their duty to try and remove him from office (for whatever reason), so that more often than not just means their interests align more with China than with anything the president is doing.

Thank you for your sincere (and not snarky or leading) response. I agree that CNN's interests could align with those of the CCP (i.e. undermining Trump/American interests), but the certainty with which people were expressing these opinions led me to believe there may have been something more tangible which was discovered through investigation (funding, interlocking directorates etc.).

 

[Jtibh]

What would be more inovative would be a face mask without the mask! If there is no mask there would be no problem with breathing.

And I bet if I didn't buy this maskless mask I would be called racist.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Global Covid-19 Case Fatality Rates | The Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine

www.cebm.net

 

[rykomatsu]

Who cares, she hot , would bang.

Her head looks like a circumcised penis, but w/e

 

[PrellboGark]

It might not be just a troll opinion, but it's less sensible in my view

I think Trump's America first is nice change honestly. Maybe too aggressive yes, but I'll continue to take a chance on it versus the democratic toe sucking of allies and enemies alike. Never again.

The problem with pushing the democratic agenda is many intelligent people in the middle see the current administration, while humorous, as a better choice. Even with a world pandemic that the US is handling terribly, Obama's endorsement of Biden, Trump's long list of failures, he'll still win in the coming election. The dems cant convince the middle with their "hope" bullshit, impeachment diversions, isn't more of the same. Sure, we're burning some bridges, but it's nice to have someone who's at least not bowing at every foreigners' feet and stuffing their pockets with billions of dollars.

That said I consider myself very environmental conscious too, and I absolutely hate some of Trump's decisions, but he'll continue to get my vote because I'm not playing the dems game. America needs to get back to basics, and Trump's position will pave the way for better versions of himself in the future.

Not going to disagree with any of that.
I would be furious if I had to vote in a two-party system where both parties are neoliberal.
Then again, I never really hear Americans demanding change to that system. Everyone just accepts it as something that sucks ass but can't be changed.

 

[Loki]

Diversity quota?

I'm sure those holes that are big enough to see through will do wonders against microscopic viral particles!

 

[008]

I think this is probably closer to the truth, although I would be extremely surprised if there was not financial incentive for CNN to be pro China as well.

We know that Warner Media cares very much about the Chinese market, and you don't get to do business in China unless you express pro-China sentiment as we have seen time and time again.

Building Our Chinese Presence

Time Warner and China’s leading investment fund focusing on media and entertainment, China Media Capital (CMC), today announced formation of a strategic investment partnership meant to capitalize on China’s rapidly expanding media sector. The announcement came during the 2013 FORTUNE Global...

www.warnermediagroup.com

Either way, back to CNN, it's clear they hate Trump and believe it is their duty to try and remove him from office (for whatever reason), so that more often than not just means their interests align more with China than with anything the president is doing.

At&T, based in Dallas, TX is in the business to make $$$

 

[Chittagong]

The death rate from coronavirus in New York state increased with 778 new deaths on Monday - up from 671 on Sunday, Governor Andrew Cuomo said at his daily news conference.

Coronavirus-related deaths in UK hospitals have risen to 12,107, an increase of 778 on yesterday's total.

 

[cryptoadam]

I'm sure those holes that are big enough to see through will do wonders against microscopic viral particles!

RACIST

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Innovative, hilariously idiotic, whatever.

Legit NG news? I'll take this as a joke post by that twitter account I know Nigeria be silly stupid about Science sometimes but hope they are not that silly stupid

and God forbid black people have jokes too

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Slowdown or no slow down we will hit 2 million cases soonish

Coronavirus Update (Live): 130,949,997 Cases and 2,852,987 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

 

[Nymphae]

Legit NG news? I'll take this as a joke post by that twitter account I know Nigeria be silly stupid about Science sometimes but hope they are not that silly stupid

and God forbid black people have jokes too

Mixed reactions as Delta state anatomy graduate makes face masks with beads

A Delta state anatomy graduate, Grace Ishicheli Kenechi recently left social media buzzing with mixed reactions following her creation of face mask using beads.

www.legit.ng

Graduate who made beaded face mask replies critics, says it's for fashion

Anatomy graduate who created a face mask from beads said she wanted to be creative as a person who is passionate about beading. She said the mask is for fashion

www.legit.ng

"Beaded facemask is a fashion mask and not a medical facemask," the young girl who does not seem to feel offended by the criticism from social media noted.

Good for her.

 

[Grinchy]

Rebekah Castor (@RebekahCastorTV) Tweeted:
NO SOCIAL DISTANCING: We've received several videos of this Easter party in Pensacola yesterday. I took this video from a distance. Tonight on Ch3, find out why the police didn't break it up. @weartv #COVID19 #Easter #bigparty #Pensacola https://t.co/4cmDBv3vpF

What do you even do anymore as the police? If you break it up, you're only doing it because you're racist and hate black POCs of color. If you don't break it up, and they all get COVID, you did it on purpose to kill them off because you hate black POCs of color.

 

[hariseldon]

Ready for the Coroavirus cinematic universe? Corona Chan could have 6 sequels planned.

Scientists discover 6 new types of coronavirus in bats

“We need to be building the wildlife resources and the capacity to do wildlife testing and wildlife surveillance ahead of the curve.”

www.jpost.com

Should we just cull bats at this point? Maybe send a fucking nuke to take out the caves just to be sure?

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Innovative, hilariously idiotic, whatever.

 

[Romulus]

What do you even do anymore as the police? If you break it up, you're only doing it because of you're racist and hate black POCs of color. If you don't break it up, and they all get COVID, you did it on purpose to kill them off because you hate black POCs of color.

You're just not going to win, go try and break it up and accept the flack I guess. Even if they sent black cops with black leaders in the community, they'd call them uncle Toms and turncoats. lol.

 

[hariseldon]

If you think this is something only a troll would say I really recommend leaving your bubble from time to time, because that sentiment is widespread across Europe and the world.

"America First", attacking NATO, leaving the Paris Agreement, warming up to autocrats and constantly working against the intentions of international institutions signalled to allies that this western liberal era we've lived in since WW2 has come to an end.

With the exception of the nationalist fringe in Europe(10-20% of voters depending on the country), Trump is universally hated here.


China is using this situation obviously. The US losing influence leaves room for China to step in and gain that influence.

The Guardian and the BBC say these things are true. Many people do not consider The Guardian or the BBC to be sources of factual content.

 

[autoduelist]

Trying to compare numbers internationally is nearly impossible.

different customs
Different population density
Different testing regiments
Different death count metrics

add in the international and internal praise you get for good numbers, and the heat you might get for correctly reporting numbers, and there is little reason to believe any of it.

 

[Jtibh]

Well that's nice and all, but at the end of the day you will have to admit that the US's role in world politics has been diminished a lot under Trump. And that was even something Trump campaigned on, so it shouldn't come as a surprise now.

And "taking care of itself first" is also nice, but considering the case numbers and deaths in the US it apparently didn't work out at all.
The problem wasn't the "America First" approach, but rather a lack of expertise in the administration. Especially a lack of trust in science, which is also a trait Trump made abundantly clear in the election.


See, I'm a democrat, not in the US sense of Democratic Party but in the sense of the word.
I appreciated Trump as a populist who clearly stated his positions, much more clearly than presidential candidates before him.
And many voters liked that and voted for it.
Now they will have to live with what they voted for.
But when I read some comments here I get the feeling that some are not getting the connection between what Trump said over the past couple of years and the things that are now happening as a result of that.

China gaining influence is a result of Trump's politics.(1)
Europe distancing itself from the US is a result of Trump's politics.(2)
A pandemic going horribly in the US is a result of Trump's politics.(3)
And massive wealth redistribution from bottom to top is also a result of Trumps' politics.(4)

(1) He campaigned on leaving and fighting international institutions.
(2) He constantly attack the EU and the EU value foundation.
(3) He always rejected science and expert opinions.
(4) He literally ran on tax breaks for the rich and corporations and celebrated when hundreds of billions went into stock buybacks that made rich people richer.


This is what the people wanted, now they have to own it.

The Coronavirus is a catalyst for many developments that were going on anyway, but the things happening now aren't random. They are the predictable result of policies, words, and actions.

There is a lot of truth in what you say.

Yes china is gaining influence due to the US politics.
Half of europe is built by chinese investors thats a fact. From infrastructur to factories.

But that seems to be the problem for europe not for US.

As a simple man i rather have people buying local and support local companies and businesses and be proud of it.

The US spent too much time policing the world spreading its culture from food to media.

Now you can eat dogs and bats and chicken from china which is also a fact ask the farmers who dump their stuff on street as a result of chinese produce hitting the stores.

And i believe people are ok with trump and his actions. Maybe not all of them but most of them.

The truth will come out this year at election day.

 

[Malakhov]

One thing I don't understand is what is going on in new york. Why are people dying like flies over there? Are they bringing people from the suburbs to be treated in NYC? Is it the elderly? It looks so much worst over there than elsewhere

 

[llien]

This was paywalled, found a screenshot, interesting take

Mortality rate in: Italy, France, Spain, UK => at around 10% (!!!)
Mortality rate in China: 4%

The best figure we have in Europe, with total cases going down for about a week, Germany: 2.5%-ish

Then we have Diamond Princess, that got top notch ICU services, closed, isolated space, with 712 infected, of whom 12 died, 61 still hasn't recovered, 6 of them are in critical condition, again 2%+ figure.


So expectations, that one could have had 7 million infected, none of them going into intensive care, and less than 140 thousand deaths, is baseless, to put it softly.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Mixed reactions as Delta state anatomy graduate makes face masks with beads

A Delta state anatomy graduate, Grace Ishicheli Kenechi recently left social media buzzing with mixed reactions following her creation of face mask using beads.

www.legit.ng

Graduate who made beaded face mask replies critics, says it's for fashion

Anatomy graduate who created a face mask from beads said she wanted to be creative as a person who is passionate about beading. She said the mask is for fashion

www.legit.ng

Good for her.

I guess you could use a real mask under the beads makes to make the real mask look nicer makes fashion sense and less stupid

 

[rykomatsu]

Should we just cull bats at this point? Maybe send a fucking nuke to take out the caves just to be sure?

You would have to nuke Austin, TX too. No joke.

We hold the record for largest natural colony of bats and the largest urban colony of bats in the world here in Texas.

Bracken Cave Preserve - Bat Conservation International

Protect America’s most economically valuable bat at Bracken Cave Preserve

www.batcon.org

Our Work - Bat Conservation International

Bats are under unprecedented threat from widespread habitat destruction, invasive species, hunting, accelerating climate change, and other stresses.

www.batcon.org

Also notice that no bat-related diseases originate from Texas...

 

[Captain Zyrain]

 

[Jtibh]

One thing I don't understand is what is going on in new york. Why are people dying like flies over there? Are they bringing people from the suburbs to be treated in NYC? Is it the elderly? It looks so much worst over there than elsewhere

Enviromental racism.
Learned it today and will be my go to answer from here on.

 

[All Hail C-Webb]

You're just not going to win, go try and break it up and accept the flack I guess. Even if they sent black cops with black leaders in the community, they'd call them uncle Toms and turncoats. lol.

And what with the zealots who filled churches, and argued for religious freedom?
Far more of those people hurting society, why no animosity or derision towards them?

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Mortality rate in: Italy, France, Spain, UK => at around 10% (!!!)
Mortality rate in China: 4%

The best figure we have in Europe, with total cases going down for about a week, Germany: 2.5%-ish

Then we have Diamond Princess, that got top notch ICU services, closed, isolated space, with 712 infected, of whom 12 died, 61 still hasn't recovered, 6 of them are in critical condition, again 2%+ figure.


So expectations, that one could have had 7 million infected, none of them going into intensive care, and less than 140 thousand deaths, is baseless, to put it softly.

Yeah I just don't see it being magically lower anywhere.

We have so many points of reference now.

 

[Romulus]

And what with the zealots who filled churches, and argued for religious freedom?
Far more of those people hurting society, why no animosity or derision towards them?

Where is the animosity to begin with? Be specific.

 

[holygeesus]

Belgium again taking a pounding. Has there been any idea why? Do they have a high population density out there or just poor virus response? Only been there once and I don't recall anything about the place to be honest.

 

[All Hail C-Webb]

Where is the animosity to begin with? Be specific.

I didn't say there was, but I think there should be animosity to the religious groups.
That's not a block party with an ordained leader, it's a few people getting together.
With religious institutions were talking about organizations that receive benefits, with leaders who don't just jeapordize their sheep, but whole communities.
Fuck those bitches.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I didn't say there was, but I think there should be animosity to the religious groups.
That's not a block party with an ordained leader, it's a few people getting together.
With religious institutions were talking about organizations that receive benefits, with leaders who don't just jeapordize their sheep, but whole communities.
Fuck those bitches.

You're telling me no one or no group organized that get together or any of the other get-togethers we've seen videos of? Just spontaneous gatherings with no one responsible?

 

[Raven117]

Yes, yes, you and many others want Trump to be a "normal" president. I get it, but that's not why he got elected, so it's not realistic to expect him to turn into a "presidential" PR mouthpiece.

I know. It's just this whole thing is so outside of Trump's skill set.

 

[cryptoadam]

Belgium again taking a pounding. Has there been any idea why? Do they have a high population density out there or just poor virus response? Only been there once and I don't recall anything about the place to be honest.

Belgium is doing great. Didn't you see them on the list of countries with WAMANZ leaders that are all doing great. Pretty sexist of you right there trying to mansplain that Belgium is taking a pounding.

 

[Raven117]

Why the fuck would you praise governors for attempting to violate the constitution?

Constitution Article I, Section 10, Clause 3
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

Your Constitutional analysis is not correct.