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[studyguy]

https://www.axios.com/mcconnell-sch...tml?utm_medium=linkshare&utm_campaign=organic

Sources close to Mitch McConnell tell me the Majority Leader is dead serious about forcing a Senate vote on the Obamacare repeal-and-replace bill before the July 4 holiday.

Some senators want to delay the vote but McConnell views that as delaying the inevitable. There are no mysteries about what the toughest disagreements are over — Medicaid funding and insurance market regulations.

This week is crucial: the Senate won't vote without a CBO score, which means they need to finalize negotiations this week.

Behind-the-scenes: McConnell and Senate leaders have been at this for all of May and now first couple weeks of June, turning their weekly lunches into working sessions on various aspects of the healthcare legislation. They've whittled down the stack of items that people don't agree on. I've spoken to a number of people who know McConnell well who speculate that he'll force a vote regardless of whether he knows he has 50 votes. They say he's desperate to move on to tax reform and can't have healthcare hanging around like a bad smell through the summer.

Just a reminder that the senate goes on a recess on the 3rd. So if anything is happening, it's happening next week or it gets kicked back even further to the fall (which just means it's closer to 2018, closer to a midterm and absolutely no one will touch it next year). It's pretty much do or die time.

WSJ Confirming
https://www.wsj.com/articles/senate-gop-plans-health-care-vote-next-week-1497905453

GOP aides and others familiar with the negotiations said they anticipate the bill’s text will be released later this week. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office is expected to release its estimate of the bill’s impact on the federal budget and insurance coverage early next week, and a vote could potentially be held next Thursday, before lawmakers scatter for a one-week recess.

 

[DarkKyo]

It's pretty much do or die time.

I sincerely hope they, err, it, dies.

 

[TheCochese]

Someone or something is going to die regardless then.

That seems awfully imprudent for someone like McConnell.

I always thought turtles were supposed to be slow.

 

[Bishman]

We are screwed. Smh.

 

[Blader]

I've spoken to a number of people who know McConnell well who speculate that he'll force a vote regardless of whether he knows he has 50 votes.

That seems awfully imprudent for someone like McConnell.

 

[Vectorman]

GOP wants to talk unity after the Congressional shooting but it continues to show what they really care about.

 

[Stinkles]

 

[SJurgenson]

I don't see how this is possible. They must get a CBO score before they can vote. There is no news they've even got a final draft, and it takes about two weeks to score it.

EDIT:

They can give the CBO information before the bill becomes public for them to start preparing preliminary analysis:
https://www.cbo.gov/about/processes

 

[Angry Grimace]

We are screwed. Smh.

You're assuming he has the votes

 

[UCBooties]

That seems awfully imprudent for someone like McConnell.

So either he knows he has the votes or he's willing to send this out for a quick death that gets tied to Trump and not Congressional Republicans with the mid-terms far enough out to lessen the impact.

 

[epmode]

Fuck the GOP. What else can you say at this point?

 

[Future]

He knows that it's about the vote and not really what's in the bill. Senators will agree and vote accordingly across party lines

 

[Kid Kamikaze10]

You're assuming he has the votes

McConnell turtles. He doesn't make a move until there is a clear shot

 

[PanicFreak]

I don't see how this is possible. They must get a CBO score before they can vote. There is no news they've even got a final draft, and it takes about two weeks to score it.

EDIT:

Clearly they don't give a fuck.

 

[Angelus Errare]

GOP, easily the greatest threat to Americans.

 

[Lord Frieza]

Damn, so he's going to force a vote even if he doesn't know for sure that he has 50?

 

[cameron]

This week is crucial: the Senate won't vote without a CBO score, which means they need to finalize negotiations this week.

TheHill:

There will be more meetings in the coming week, but the discussions have been behind closed doors so far, leading to grumbling from Democrats, as well as some Republicans like Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), and outside groups about transparency.

Some senators say time is not on their side as they try to win votes, and they believe Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) could simply decide it's time to move and force a vote.
"It won't be appreciably better a month from today than it is today. At some point to get this done, you're going to get it done in the last 10 days before the vote," Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) said

But the disagreements aren't minor. Senators are still debating how quickly to phase out federal funds for Medicaid expansion and how deeply to cut the program, and lawmakers say they have still not seen legislative text of a bill.

Instead, they've been sending bits and pieces of the bill to the Congressional Budget Office individually.

"I think we're making progress but they're very difficult issues. Leadership hasn't written a bill yet," Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) said.

*repealing intensifies*

 

[RoKKeR]

They're actually going to pass this, aren't they.

Unbelievable.

 

[studyguy]

Again they've been sending drafts to the CBO along the entire process, McConnell wouldn't throw a vote out for no reason without assurances that it would pass. If something does come to fruition next week in voting, it's relatively safe to assume we're all screwed.

 

[Aselith]

8 years to make a plan and they are scrambling because they never made any

 

[slit]

They're actually going to pass this, aren't they.

Unbelievable.

Probably, I know no one wants to hear that but the possibility is strong.

 

[sangreal]

https://www.axios.com/mcconnell-sch...tml?utm_medium=linkshare&utm_campaign=organic




Just a reminder that the senate goes on a recess on the 3rd. So if anything is happening, it's happening next week or it gets kicked back even further to the fall (which just means it's closer to 2018, closer to a midterm and absolutely no one will touch it next year). It's pretty much do or die time.

It's only like a 1 week recess. It's the August recess that he really needs to avoid, and there is word he is threatening to cancel it

 

[Future]

Probably, I know no one wants to hear that but the possibility is strong.

If not guaranteed. Republicans will fall in line.

 

[Lord Frieza]

TheHill:

*repealing intensifies*

That shit shouldn't be allowed. How can the CBO even rate something in a process like that?

 

[Guevara]

RIP healthcare.

 

[Got]

GOP, easily the greatest threat to Americans.

most definitely the biggest terrorist organization we've ever seen.

 

[timetokill]

So if this passes it goes back to the House, right?

 

[TheOctodad]

I'm assuming this passes. We are on the darkest timeline.

 

[studyguy]

It's only like a 1 week recess. It's the August recess that he really needs to avoid, and there is word he is threatening to cancel it

There's literally no way they're going to be voting on this shit in the fall when normally they're gearing towards midterms by that point.

 

[Jinaar]

Is this like a Death Panel? Because they are like a panel/group of people that are going to literally murder people if they pass this.

 

[BlackLagoon]

They're actually going to pass this, aren't they.

Unbelievable.

Keep in mind that even if they do it goes back to the House for another round of fuckery with the Freedom Caucus. I'm sure Paul Ryan is looking forward to it!

 

[Neuromancer]

How many people will die because of this bill? Does anyone even know?

 

[Lord Frieza]

So if this passes it goes back to the House, right?

Yes

 

[Jinaar]

There's literally no way they're going to be voting on this shit in the fall when normally they're gearing towards midterms by that point.

And this is seriously fucked up. Does the government do anything but ramp up for elections ALL THE TIME?!?!?!?

Does anything get done by anyone?

 

[kirblar]

There's literally no way they're going to be voting on this shit in the fall when normally they're gearing towards midterms by that point.

There are no midterms, only state/local elections in places like VA that are off-year.

And this is seriously fucked up. Does the government do anything but ramp up for elections ALL THE TIME?!?!?!?

Does anything get done by anyone?

When your voters throw out the President's party every time they get a DDD or RRR eclipse? You get like, a year to actually do anything.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

McConnell turtles. He doesn't make a move until there is a clear shot

It literally says he's gonna vote regardless, because he's sick of this shit:

I've spoken to a number of people who know McConnell well who speculate that he'll force a vote regardless of whether he knows he has 50 votes. They say he's desperate to move on to tax reform and can't have healthcare hanging around like a bad smell through the summer.

Don't wallow in self-defeat just yet. There's definitely a fight to be had, we just need to be loud about it. It doesn't sound like they have a 50 count locked and loaded, yet.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

This is scary. Mitch McConnell is pure evil, I hope this gets blocked/filibustered/etc. Whatever it takes.

 

[Lord Frieza]

How many people will die because of this bill? Does anyone even know?

There's no way to know for sure, obviously, but roughly 23 million people will lose thier insurance, so a lot of people will end up dying

 

[Slayer-33]

These people are savages holy shit

 

[studyguy]

There are no midterms, only state/local elections in places like VA that are off-year.

Not talking 2017, 2018. The closer we tick to '18 the less inclined anyone in congress is to weigh on these bills.

 

[Got]

thank god we came together to play a baseball game though. god bless america

 

[Lord Frieza]

This is scary. Mitch McConnell is pure evil, I hope this gets blocked/filibustered/etc. Whatever it takes.

It can't be filibustered, and the means to block it are being bypassed by other various rules and shady dealings. If it's going to pass it's going to pass. The most that can be done is to slow down Congress proceedings in protest

 

[BronsonLee]

He's gonna pass his version and dump it back on The House to fuck up

 

[GK86]

They are taking working lunch breaks? Working so hard to screw so many.

 

[Slayven]

He's gonna pass his version and dump it back on The House to fuck up

I wonder if this is the end goal, keep bouncing back and forth to appear to be doing something?

 

[Beartruck]

This is scary. Mitch McConnell is pure evil, I hope this gets blocked/filibustered/etc. Whatever it takes.

Reconciliation can't be filibustered. Only needs 50 votes.

 

[Melkezadek]

How the hell do we fight against this? I'm trying so hard not to give in to defeatism, but it doesn't seem like there's anything we can do.

 

[Lord Frieza]

They are taking working lunch breaks? Working so hard to screw so many.

You misread, instead of taking lunch breaks, they are working on this.

 

[Lord Frieza]

How the hell do we fight against this? I'm trying so hard not to give in to defeatism, but it doesn't seem like there's anything we can do.

We can't do anything outside contact our Rep if you have Republican Senators. Democrats can't stop it either. So yeah, it's basically out everyone's hands outside 50 GOP Senators and Mike Pence

 

[Morrigan Stark]

It can't be filibustered, and the means to block it are being bypassed by other various rules and shady dealings. If it's going to pass it's going to pass. The most that can be done is to slow down Congress proceedings in protest

Reconciliation can't be filibustered. Only needs 50 votes.

Ah, welp. Guess that unless at least a few GOP senators find their spine and vote against this, y'all fucked, America. Sorry.