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[dofry]

Original story translated with Google

Two children brutally abused survived by conditional sentences

A male citizen of Turku born in 1969, has been convicted of Southwest Finland, the District Court on two aggravated child sexual abuse. The man took advantage of the first child in May 2008 and repetaed his deeds with a second child in August 2008.

He does not sit a day in prison after the ruling.

Justices ruling was 'outrageous acts of child sexual abuse', but the man was sentenced to a conditional imprisonment for one year and eight months. Conditional sentence is not required to put behind bars at all. Man sentenced to 80 hours of community service.

The man was ordered to pay the first victim of EUR 2 500 in compensation for distress and other suffering of EUR 6 000 and 7 500 euros for mental suffering.

The story dealt with a secret, and it was not given more information.

Also Ylivieska-Raahe District Court of Northern Ostrobothnia was reading on Thursday, a child sexual abuse. There, a 1949 born man, also was sentenced to two child sexual abuse and two of assault.

His sentence is also conditional.

This is finnish criminal justice. I am outraged at the short sentences here, but also looking at the first comment on that page pretty much shows how skewed the system is:
"And then, a few disc sharing PIRATE is hunted down by dozens of police officers and given half a million claims for compensation, which is the bigger crime?"

 

[bjork]

When I saw the quotation marks, I thought this was going to be something cool like a slap from a machete, so now he has no hands.

 

[-PXG-]

Original story translated with Google



This is finnish criminal justice. I am outraged at the short sentences here, but also looking at the first comment on that page pretty much shows how skewed the system is:
"And then, a few disc sharing PIRATE is hunted down by dozens of police officers and given half a million claims for compensation, which is the bigger crime?"

What?

 

[Szu]

This is the same country that had the sauna contest fatality.

Hmmm, you know what? Bring back the contest. Let's make him the only contestant.

 

[Xilium]

I'll assume that there's more to the story than is being reported.

 

[dofry]

What?

Pardon my strange or broken english. What I meant is that criminals usually either don't go to jail or sit very little time in jail in Finland. *using Google*...Yes, short prison sentences. Now this guy doesn't even get to go to jail at all.

EDIT: And this is only one example. There are many similar cases. You done bad, you should be behind bars for a shile. Not stroll around the streets smiling and gathering litter with a stick.

 

[Always-honest]

Meanwhile in Finland: Man sexually abuses two children. Gets "a slap on the wrist"

with this i hope:

 

[DonMigs85]

Turku? Isn't that one of the places that wanted Conan to visit?

 

[GCX]

 

[Pepto]

So what exactly did the man do and why do you think the sentence is wrong?

 

[zoukka]

Yeah our criminal sentences are way shorter than say in the US.

But it works, so...

 

[ConfusingJazz]

So what exactly did the man do and why do you think the sentence is wrong?

For raping two kids, he got probation, community service, and a fine of about 14,000 Euros.

To say that is a light sentence is an understatement.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

So what exactly did the man do and why do you think the sentence is wrong?

Sexual abuse on a child?

 

[Pepto]

For raping two kids, he got probation, community service, and a fine of about 14,000 Euros.

To say that is a light sentence is an understatement.

Did he rape two kids?

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Did he rape two kids?

Committed sexual abuse. On two children.

 

[ana]

Hmm.. What's it with finnish news around here lately?

Anyway hello to all finnish gaffers

 

[crazy monkey]

send him to dubai

 

[Kettch]

Eh, it kind of depends on the details here. If he raped two kids, the sentence is obviously out of whack. If he patted the backside of two 15 year old girls, it would be pretty well in line.

 

[crazy monkey]

Eh, it kind of depends on the details here. If he raped two kids, the sentence is obviously out of whack. If he patted the backside of two 15 year old girls, it would be pretty well in line.

it says brutally abused. If the case went to court he obviously did some thing wrong.

 

[Pepto]

it says brutally abused.

Mistranslation.

 

[GaimeGuy]

No one is condoning the abuse of children, but you can't really say anything about the sentence without any details about the case :/

 

[Uncle]

it says brutally abused. If the case went to court he obviously did some thing wrong.

I'm not sure waht the actual legal term in english is, but the word that was translated as "brutal" in this case is like the word aggravated in an aggravated assault (i.e it's more serious than just abuse).


Edit: there's a story about a woman (suffering from post natal depression apparently) who got a suspended sentence for killing her child on the site as well. What great news day for Turku.

 

[GaimeGuy]

yeah, can we get an actual finn to do a non computer-generated translation for us?

 

[Roto13]

Finland is fucking weird.

 

[Dever]

Huh. I'm finnish and this story made me look up what exactly is the definition of 'törkeä lapsen seksuaalinen hyväksikäyttö"(= egregious sexual abuse of a child) under finnish law. On Wikipedia it says that the criminal must be sentenced to 1-10 years in jail. This might be poor reporting, or very poor judgement. Or wikipedia might ofc be wrong.

http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapsen_seksuaalinen_hyväksikäyttö

 

[Uncle]

I looked up the legal definition of it, and it was one of the following (not an exact translation, but I think you get te gist of it)

1) the child suffered great harm due to the child's age or level of development

or

2) it was done in an especially humiliating fashion

or

3) the person was in a position of trust or power in the child's mind


and the act was done in an egregious fashion over all.



Edit: egregious it is then.

Edit2: and on the age part: the age of consent in Finland is 16. So they would have had been very young if it was the age thing.

 

[meppi]

When I saw the quotation marks, I thought this was going to be something cool like a slap from a machete, so now he has no hands.

Wouldn't that want to make him molest more kids as he would not be able to jerk off to porn anymore? :-/

Although on the other hand, how do you molest someone when you can't hold them down.... :lol

 

[Patrick Bateman]

 

[jmdajr]

 

[sangreal]

America? That guy is wearing a blue jays hat at what looks like the Toronto Ribfest.

 

[Mael]

America? That guy is wearing a blue jays hat at what looks like the Toronto Ribfest.

NEWFLASH : Canada no longer in America?

:lol

 

[JoeBoy101]

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

 

[2San]

It's hard to judgmental if I don't know what he actually has done. For example he might have shown the kids a playboy mag. That counts as child sexual abuse as well.

 

[GaimeGuy]

America? That guy is wearing a blue jays hat at what looks like the Toronto Ribfest.

North America!

 

[J-Rod]

I doubt he just showed them a playboy mag or patted 2 15 year olds on the butt. That not the likely scenario I get from "brutally abused".

 

[Shanadeus]

It's hard to judgmental if I don't know what he actually has done. For example he might have shown the kids a playboy mag. That counts as child sexual abuse as well.

Correct, which would explain the relatively mild sentence.
Ugh at that translation, I wish my finnish was better.

I doubt he just showed them a playboy mag or patted 2 15 year olds on the butt. That not the likely scenario I get from "brutally abused".

It's just a horribly bad translation.

 

[SolsticeZero]

 

[Mudkips]

 

[Kinyou]

 

[Shanadeus]

 

[Vox-Pop]

a new GAF meme is born.

 

[Shanadeus]

 

[out0v0rder]

 

[norinrad]

Best :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Fixed1979]

America? That guy is wearing a blue jays hat at what looks like the Toronto Ribfest.

They don't sell Jays hats in America? I guess that's why I can nver find a Yankee cap in Canada. You guys don't have ribs down there, you should come to Canada where they're plentiful and tasty!

 

[CrocMother]

.

 

[Xeke]

They don't sell Jays hats in America? I guess that's why I can nver find a Yankee cap in Canada.

Sure but no real American would cheer for a Canadian team.

 

[Fixed1979]

Sure but no real American would cheer for a Canadian team.

I had actually read a recent story about how Jays hats were selling like crazy in NYC because of the colour of the hat, apparantly it matched some shoes that the kids were going crazy for...

And as for hockey - All your players belong to us.

 

[Ferrio]

a new GAF meme is born.

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