Both systems had great launches and both had very impressive software lineups. Since then things have been very slow with only Yoshi for DS being a notable release. Software sales for all the handheld games are also slowing. As the launch hysteria for both systems fades, considering the premium prices I can see both systems struggling(The DS may already be entering that point). It'll be interesting to see what software will help the systems out of any slump.
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Doom_Bringer
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JackFrost2012 said:
sorry about the retarded comment!
I have sick with the flu for the past several days and looks like Tylenol is doing funny things to my head.
That didn't make any sense at all! :lol
Funny image!
SolidSnakex
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Laguna said:Who cares? Look at Egg Monster Hero in a month. This is the first 3rd Party game that isn´t just a kind of puzzle game. I would say this will sell about 200-300thousand units in it´s lifespan. By the way the best selling PSP game is at 270.000 by now.
I seriously doubt its going to be selling that amount.
Spiritreaver
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Thta's probably the case, but one can't really say as we're just staring at numbers., so I can only speculate myself. However this is the first time PSP has hit below 50k sales in MC's numbers, and the first time Media Create has reported lower numbers than Enterbrain for the PSP in quite a while. We'll have to see how next week goes to get a better grasp of things.Mrbob said:
Speaking of such things, we're lacking the "PSP is sold out all over Japan!" posts from the gamers over there. Anyone care to take care of that?
Spiritreaver
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That's too bad, I certainly didn't think them as liars and I actually liked being updated about it weekly. Since I'm not there and can't really see if that's the case, I liked have some kind of clue that way I wasn't just going by some numbers.Mrbob said:
But I must have missed those posts in the Enterbrain topic, I'll look later.
Spiritreaver
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Yeah, but I meant for this week since I'd just like some more information on the drop in sales, I don't really like commenting on things I'm ttotally in the dark about.Amir0x said:
EDIT: Oh I just got my answer! I didn't notice this. http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=35258
Well, technically Pokemon Dash is also a 3rd party product (published by the Pokemon Company). Similar to how SOE PS2/PSP games are 3rd party titles.Link316 said:
Then again, DS can also play GBA titles, which might be accounting for lowered software sales in the face of a rather weak library (happened to PS2 also early on). And there 7 GBA titles in the top 50 (5 of which are 3rd party).
Yeah, Hanjuku just isn't that strong of an IP. I'd expect it to sell on par with the console games though (150-200k).SolidSnakex said:
Operations
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The DS sales are fine. It just seems that the PSP indeed expanded the handheld market, for now anyway.
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evilromero
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Man, I hope Yoshi can manage to attract some more sales. It looks like such a solid game. I need to get my girlfriend to buy herself a copy while she's over there. Along with Pac-Pix next month.
Soulbrighter
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^ :lol
So Ds is almost out of "teh next virtual boy" zone
So Ds is almost out of "teh next virtual boy" zone
The funny thing about the PSP being constantly sold out in Japan is that it's a double edged sword for proponents of it. On one hand, it means that there is in fact a significant demand for it. On the other hand, it means that that demand can't be gauged properly in a meaningful way. We know the supply is approximately meeting or exceeding demand, but that's it.
Anyone saying "the psp will sell N units per week once it's no longer sold out" is just pulling N from their ass, because as someone already pointed out in this thread, until the initial adopter demand dries out, these numbers are meaningless and incomparable to the NDS numbers, because they are under different market conditions.
So yeah, there's something to brag about, but you can't brag too far or you're just bullshitting. A lot of people on this forum seem to be under the impression that a product launch is only a success if you sell out. An attitude that should probably be expected from people who've grown up on video game launches, I suppose.
Anyone saying "the psp will sell N units per week once it's no longer sold out" is just pulling N from their ass, because as someone already pointed out in this thread, until the initial adopter demand dries out, these numbers are meaningless and incomparable to the NDS numbers, because they are under different market conditions.
So yeah, there's something to brag about, but you can't brag too far or you're just bullshitting. A lot of people on this forum seem to be under the impression that a product launch is only a success if you sell out. An attitude that should probably be expected from people who've grown up on video game launches, I suppose.
Soulbrighter
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Amir0x said:
I was and always be a Segafan, but among the three I surely prefer Nintendo.
Amir0x said:
The enterbrain thread for this period:
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=35092
The insightful arguments from that thread which I parrotted above (being insufficiently intelligent to craft them myself) has made me believer in DS bomba-tion.
In fact, I'm so thoroughly convinced, I may only have to read the first post of weekly sales threads from now on.
Link1110
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Are there software numbers to go with these hardware numbers or not? It seems to be that while PSP is outselling DS in hardware, it's getting it's butt kicked in software, and since sony is losing money on every PSP, software is where it counts. I'd like to see the software NUMBERS to see if they even sold one game for every PSP they sold this week, I doubt it though, since for the top 20 in the enterbrain numbers, PSP games only sold about 25,000. So unless numbers 21, 22, and 32 are all PSP (Not too likely) I'd dare say that at least 1/5 - 2/5 of these PSPs are, as someone mentioned before, being sold in China or other territories and are going to be used only for piracy/homebrews, which will hurt sony more than anything.
Guns N' Poops
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Laguna said:Who cares? Look at Egg Monster Hero in a month. This is the first 3rd Party game that isn´t just a kind of puzzle game. I would say this will sell about 200-300thousand units in it´s lifespan. By the way the best selling PSP game is at 270.000 by now.
Right...Because Hanjuku Hero is such a big franchise. Wake up, not even the last PS2 release cleared 200.000 units. It's at 169,421 2 years after the release now.
I am not getting you guys with this tie ratio thing and the PS2s breaking. This is how i see it...
Say 100 PS2s are sold and 500 games sold along side those PS2s. So the tie ratio would be 5.
Now say 20% of those PS2s break and people go out and buy a new one but they don't buy anymore games because they don't need to. So you have 120 PS2s now sold and 500 games still sold. That would give you a 4.16 for the tie ratio. As just because the PS2s break doesn't change the overall effect that 120 PS2s were sold YTD. So the more PS2s that break down the lower the tie ratio will go as no more games are being bought by that same person rebuying a new PS2. Somehow PS2 has the highest tie ratio though, so this bunks the rumor that PS2 breaks too much.
Break down...
500(games)/100(PS2) = 5 tie ratio
500(games)/120(PS2) = 4.16 tie ratio
500(games)/140(PS2) = 3.57 tie ratio
500(games)/160(PS2) = 3.13 tie ratio
500(games)/180(PS2) = 2.77 tie ratio
500(games)/200(PS2) = 2.5 tie ratio
note: number of PS2s sold over 100 equals the number broken and repurchased.
If PS2 had a 20%+ defect rate then the average person would have to have bought like 15 games to counter the more hardware sales to equal the 9 something tie ratio right now for PS2.
I hope i got my point off and didn't confuse anyone.
Say 100 PS2s are sold and 500 games sold along side those PS2s. So the tie ratio would be 5.
Now say 20% of those PS2s break and people go out and buy a new one but they don't buy anymore games because they don't need to. So you have 120 PS2s now sold and 500 games still sold. That would give you a 4.16 for the tie ratio. As just because the PS2s break doesn't change the overall effect that 120 PS2s were sold YTD. So the more PS2s that break down the lower the tie ratio will go as no more games are being bought by that same person rebuying a new PS2. Somehow PS2 has the highest tie ratio though, so this bunks the rumor that PS2 breaks too much.
Break down...
500(games)/100(PS2) = 5 tie ratio
500(games)/120(PS2) = 4.16 tie ratio
500(games)/140(PS2) = 3.57 tie ratio
500(games)/160(PS2) = 3.13 tie ratio
500(games)/180(PS2) = 2.77 tie ratio
500(games)/200(PS2) = 2.5 tie ratio
note: number of PS2s sold over 100 equals the number broken and repurchased.
If PS2 had a 20%+ defect rate then the average person would have to have bought like 15 games to counter the more hardware sales to equal the 9 something tie ratio right now for PS2.
I hope i got my point off and didn't confuse anyone.