Liabe Brave
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No, I'm afraid they're not that straightforward. NBGI is used on Japanese games, too--check out the Cross Edge trailer on Japanese PSN, for example.jj984jj said:
Media Create Sales: 09/15 - 09/21
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Stumpokapow said:
Dear God, it was just a question. I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!
Thanks, by the way.
donny2112 said:Maybe Koei caused Namco-Bandai to be inspired.
Actually, I just get the sources of the predictions mixed up. Gundam is Bandai's, but I guess it was Koei who made the x+y prediction.
Capcom has the exact opposite problem with some of its Wii titles. I think they have some ridiculously low expectation for Dead Rising Wii, for example (150K worldwide or something like that?).
I wouldn't say that DR Wii expectation are ridiculously low. After all, it is a game with unproven market (you couldn't use RE4 Wii or RE:UC as basis to predict DR Wii #), and it is standard business practice to go for conservative estimate for forecast, as opposed to best case estimate (since it is cheaper/more cost effective to reprint something).
Aaron Strife
Banned
IIRC they only forecasted 450k for RE4 and 600k for RE:UC or somewhere close to those numbers.markatisu said:
I think it's a way of pleasing their shareholders. They keep their predictions low so they can boast about how ___ exceeded their expectations.
schuelma said:
You are correct. In the FY09 Q1 report (business segment summary, page 7), the Dead Rising expectation is 500K, World Wide. I think donny's 150K could be Japan only expectation (and it is not mentioned in the above mentioned report).
I didn't know that this game are using RE4 engine. I will look into this game (previously not interested because I don't really like zombie type of game. Buying RE4 is an exception/special case for me, not the standard)donny2112 said:Maybe I'm thinking of one of the territories in the breakdown. I still expect more than 500K worldwide for the game. It's the RE4 engine. Wii needs more games with the RE4+ engine.
Nintendo is also one of the Japanese company that always forecast prudently (too low). The only time they overfore-cast is during the GCN era (have to stop production for 6 months since there are too many GCN on market)markatisu said:
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Eh...Sting fans do not kill me for the confusion now.
DSL　60000
PSP　25000
Wii　26000
PS3　8300
PS2　11000
360　10000
1.Super Robot Wars Z　361000
2.Pokemon Platinum　195000
3.World Destruction　59000
4.Rhythm Tengoku Gold　54000
5.Kinikkuman　37000
6.X-Edge　28000
7.Dragon Ball DS　26000
8.Wii Fit　21000
9.Aquanaut's Holiday　15000
10.Band Bros DX　14000
Other new games
11.Disaster　13000
12.Mana Khemia Portable　12000
15.Knights in the Nightmare　9300
....Knights in the Nightmare LE (with Yggdra Union GBA) 4200
....Kumatanchi (DS)　3500
....Janline (360)　1600
....Madden NFL09 (PS3)　500
DSL　60000
PSP　25000
Wii　26000
PS3　8300
PS2　11000
360　10000
1.Super Robot Wars Z　361000
2.Pokemon Platinum　195000
3.World Destruction　59000
4.Rhythm Tengoku Gold　54000
5.Kinikkuman　37000
6.X-Edge　28000
7.Dragon Ball DS　26000
8.Wii Fit　21000
9.Aquanaut's Holiday　15000
10.Band Bros DX　14000
Other new games
11.Disaster　13000
12.Mana Khemia Portable　12000
15.Knights in the Nightmare　9300
....Knights in the Nightmare LE (with Yggdra Union GBA) 4200
....Kumatanchi (DS)　3500
....Janline (360)　1600
....Madden NFL09 (PS3)　500
Mr Killemgood
Member
Amazing numbers for the X360, SRW:Z and Poke Platinum.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
KNIGHTS IN THE NIGHTMARE IS IN LINE WITH STING'S RECENT TITLES
Still a bomb by any absolute scale, but there's no way after Yggdra and Riviera that Sting isn't aware of the ... uh... limited appeal of their games.
Still a bomb by any absolute scale, but there's no way after Yggdra and Riviera that Sting isn't aware of the ... uh... limited appeal of their games.
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
360 at 10,000 in its third week since the surge, not bad at all.
SRWZ is crazy. World Destruction is still disappointing honestly. Surprised X-Edge sold 28,000 - excellent sales for a game that doesnt deserve half the sales. Shame for Sting, they have such solid efforts but not solid sales - even the PSP port of Mana Khemia sold better :/. Disaster is honestly, a Disaster.
creamsugar
Member
外.同限定版　(Guitar Hero DS ?) 4200
Kumatan　3500
Janline　1600
Madden NF09 PS3　500
Kumatan　3500
Janline　1600
Madden NF09 PS3　500
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Worst debuting first-party Wii games
3. (TIE) Disaster
3. (TIE) Common Knowledge Training TV
2. Eyeshield 21
1. Captain Rainbow
3. (TIE) Disaster
3. (TIE) Common Knowledge Training TV
2. Eyeshield 21
1. Captain Rainbow
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Somewhere out there, jimbo is smiling.
Though it's probably just gas.
Though it's probably just gas.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Stumpokapow said:
They know I love them. So it's all good.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Dragona Akehi said:
Sting financials, 2012:
"Dragona bought both of our titles this year, driving our net revenue up substantially to a total of 9800円. We expect lower results next fiscal year, as we are only releasing one title, but we are releasing a 7000円 deluxe edition so as to mediate this issue."
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
They are so minuscule that I wonder if overseas sales aren't exponentially bigger than these...*cough*Atlus USA when is this coming*cough*Stumpokapow said:
First weeks:
GBA Riviera - 9,540
PSP Riviera - 10,047
GBA Yggdra - 17,728
PSP Yggdra - 21,989
Don't kill the messenger, kill the other messenger, sinobi. ><jj984jj said:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
*stabs Kurosaki* You post 10k for the first day! ;_;
Mr Killemgood
Member
harSon said:
Judging by certain reports that I've seen from forumgoers, yes, it's still supply constrained in many areas.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Bigger but not exponentially. Both Riviera and YU are 5 digits in sales in the US.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Stumpokapow said:
Hey I do my part.
Anyway, St!ng games see significantly better results, ironically enough, outside of Japan. So I'm sure they're not worried.
Mr Killemgood
Member
Dragona Akehi said:
From reading other Famitsu charts, Knight's deluxe edition sold around 5,000 copies in addition to the ~10k sold, so it will most likely be in the top 10 if both titles were added together.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Oh wait, its the other title that just said Limited Edition then:Mr Killemgood said:
外.同限定版　(Guitar Hero DS ?) 4200
That should be KitN LE with Yggdra Union GBA. I thought it was a different game...Sting fans are really going to kill me.
Mr Killemgood
Member
harSon said:
Blue Dragon led the X360 to very strong sales for quite some time after it debuted.
It led to a great time frame where the X360 had 5 consecutive weeks over 10,000 units sold, which is the highest amount of consecutive 10k weeks. This run, if over 10k, ties 2nd place for 3 consecutive weeks over 10k, which is very good.
For comparison, the Xbox 360 on a yearly basis, is 1 week away from topping 2006's numbers (Blue Dragon). It's 6 weeks ahead of 2007's cume (which ended up at 242,000 units).
At this rate, 300,000 units sold in 2008 seems likely. What will be interesting is to see if Microsoft can beat 2002, the best year MS ever had in Japan (only thanks to the debut of the Xbox at 120k).
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Accident said:
It's been a bit longer than that. However, making some comparison images for this year, sometimes they're close enough that it's hard to tell without actually checking the numbers.Jonnyram said:
Being December, though, it was less surprising to see holiday and game bump forces combining into a few decent consecutive weeks.Mr Killemgood said:
Psychotext
Member
Sony need to blow the doors off at TGS. No question.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
That'll do pig, that'll do.
Psychotext said:
I hope they do but i feel they are content to just continue at their hardware sales pace until they can get manufacturing cost under control. Which is why I believe they only foretasted shipments of 10 million for the fiscal year. That's probably the sweet spot for them to reach profitably while not complete falling behind in the hardware race during their financial year.