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Media Create Sales: 09/17 - 09/23 2007
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test_account
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Frillen said:
No what? Its not impossible that PSP can have some good sales for a while.
PetriP-TNT
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PSP is on a roll.
Pureauthor
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Borys said:
No.
And you could've at least glanced at the OP, which holds all the information you would've wanted, and then some.
SouthernDragon
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Good PSP sales are good, but lets not get carried away here.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
It can't get more epic than the last couple weeks, I figure.justjohn said:
Segata Sanshiro
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Yeah, should be great. Instead of just having the N-fans who don't know shit about stats, and the recently added S-fans who don't know shit about stats, we'll also have the MS-fans who don't know shit about stats. The whole set! What a treat for us.
SouthernDragon
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I'd thought you'd have fun poking and prodding them towards bans, or just being witty at them, Segata.
test_account
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Jokeropia said:
Most likely ye, but all the other guy said was that he was rooting for PSP, he didnt say it was going to happend, that PSP outsold DS (LTD sales).
test_account
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Frillen said:
Still, he was only saying he was rooting for the PSP
Thats why i wondered why you said no to this. To be honest i knew you was refering to the DS part, but i still dont think its right to say no because hes rooting for it Souldriver
Member
Oh, you never know. A PS3>Wii week would be awesome reading candy too.Segata Sanshiro said:
test_account said:
The way I read the above quoted sentence is that the person is rooting for PSP to beat DSL (which will never happen, at least in Japan).
I might like GCN, but I never, ever root for GCN to beat PS2 (since I am still a sane person). It is more reasonable for a person to root for PS3 to beat Wii in Japan (although hoping for X360 to beat Wii in Japan are solid grounds for hospitalization into lunacy ward, or Gotham prison, whichever is nearer to the place of incident).
Edit : I mean LTD in PS3 > Wii and X360 > Wii sentence above, not just weekly sales.
Souldriver said:
That is not sufficient. PS3 LTD > Wii LTD is the minimum level of entertaintement that will surpass this week's entertainment value (IMO), since PS3>Wii will only rival, but not surpass, this week's entertainment value.
On second thought, since PSP managed to get > DS in weekly sales during Jan - March 2005, PS3 > Wii week (which have not happened yet, so far), is entertaining enough. The possibility is very slim though, at least until FFXIII release.
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apujanata said:
Well, its sorta like if Oldboys 1934 plays against Manchester United. You will still see people rooting/cheering for the Oldboys eventho they dont have a chance in hell to win
Those who root for the Oldboys doesnt have to be insane hehe In every club you will find supporters rooting for their team no matter how slim the chances are for a victory. So why should people say no to someone who are rooting for something, eventho the chances for a victory is slim to nill? Of course DS will win with a mile over PSP in Japan, but there is nothing wrong with rooting 
Flakster99
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justjohn said:i'm quitely hoping for a 360>wii>ps3 next week to tear this place up.
I like a little chaos every now and then. I'll quietly hope for such an outcome as well.
JoshuaJSlone
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Well, if we mean its first September, they were pretty low as it was in the beginning of its quarter-long shortage dip.DefectiveReject said:
As says Famitsu:
Week of 2000-09-04: 48,146
Week of 2000-09-11: 31,583
Week of 2000-09-18: 31,628
Week of 2000-09-25: 28,941
And if we mean time from launch, this was Wii's week 43; here are PS2's weeks 42-44 . This puts us in its first December. This is just on the far side of those shortages, so they never really got a huge peak that holiday.
As says Famitsu:
2000-12-11: 41,691
Combined weeks of 2000-12-18 and 2000-12-25: 95,053
This far out and without ancient weekly discussion threads and proto-Vinnk to consult, it's hard to tell just what the supply situation was. However, if I assume the worst of it was over by the time the new year rolled around, PS2 did have five sub-25K weeks in 2001.Sharp said:
As says Famitsu:
Week of 2001-01-15: 23,966 (Possibly a post-holiday shortage; things are much bigger the next few weeks.)
Week of 2001-04-09: 21,997
Week of 2001-05-14: 24,529
Week of 2001-05-21: 21,989
Week of 2001-05-28: 24,638
However, it is worth keeping in mind those numbers aren't exactly MC-compatible. I'm wondering if their tracking methods somehow advantage the lesser selling consoles, which would both explain Famitsu's usually-higher PS3 sales, and why now that Wii has been lower these past few weeks Famitsu has been showing it higher, too.
Wii (Fam) vs Wii (MC)
GBA > Game Gear + Wonderswan + Atari LynxMoor-Angol said:
is also true. I don't think Wii is in particularly dire straits due to an off month, either, but a relationship like that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Launch supply sucked. Add together PSP's first two weeks, and it would still be a few dozen thousand short of this week.Fady K said:
charlequin
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botticus said:
The 360 is the ultra-hardcore system in Japan. Most people who would have been in the market for Oblivion probably bought it for the Xbox already.
Totalriot said:
I'm going to be wildly optimistic and say first week of 120k, LTD of 350k. I figure the realistic worst case is that it puts up Blue Dragon's numbers.
Straight from the horse's mouth.
:lol
How the hell
Mithos Yggdrasill
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ziran said:
That's right. After all, even the Nintendo DS passed 5 months (thanks to JoshuaJSlone) in the exact same situation. Read again: 5 months, before Nintendogs, Jump Super Stars and Brain Training came out.
The Wii is in the same situation, but there is a key difference: this period is lasting only since 3 weeks and it will end with the first BIG game that will come out, that, if I good remember, is Super Mario Galaxy.
Mario and Smash will attract lots of hardcore's fans, that now the Wii really needs, because hardcore have not bought massively the system. Wii Fit will do the rest, re-attracting new and old non-gamers. It will be in my opinion the BIG game of the year in Japan.
PSP has done wonderfully. That's a fact. But it has done ALL it could in these two weeks. Almost nothing remains and this is the big problem. For how much will it last ? CCFF7 was already a lot down this week and I'm not so sure that it will reach the million mark. Maybe 900-950k. But, anyway, it's not the point. 50k of difference doesn't change much.
What matters is that with the PSP, hardware is driving the software and not the opposite. This means that it is more likely that the effect will last now and then PSP will return to a superior, abitual selling rate. In other words, ~40k, probably. More then the old PSP, sure, but the situation will be as it was before (I'm not couting Chistmas of course).
PSP is not likely to have a DS Lite effect. That's very likely. I'd say almost sure (but not at 100%. Who knows ?). Anyway, hardware's sales is not what PSP needs now, because they've been, more or less, pretty good. What the handheld needs is software !
Sony had the chance to have a very successful handheld, but they failed to use this big opportunity on order to support a lot more (in an ossessive way) the PS3 and this has been, in my opinion, a big mistake !
And now I think it is too late to shift resources to the portable. Sure, they can start to develop big games that will come out at the end of next year and after, and I'm sure they'll sell great anyway, but this will not change the bottom line: PSP is a not fully and not dinamically supported console. Conseguence: N64 syndrome. Big bump. Some big software sales (but a lot less then Nintendo did with N64, as you know) and nothing more.
Sony could REALLY beat the DS. I still believe this ! If it hasn't happened at the end, Sony is to blame and nobody else.
JoshuaJSlone
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Slight correction. Nintendogs came out shortly before the 5 month mark; Brain Training shortly before 6.Mithos Yggdrasil said:
Mithos Yggdrasill said:
If you call "support the PS3" one top tier title in the first year then yeah they supported the hell out of it. Let's face it, while their PSP efforts can be considered nonchalant, the Japanese-centric PS3 efforts have been either slow as hell, PSP-bad, or both.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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JoshuaJSlone said:
Thanks ! I correct my post.
Pureauthor
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Words fail me.
test_account said:Well, its sorta like if Oldboys 1934 plays against Manchester United. You will still see people rooting/cheering for the Oldboys eventho they dont have a chance in hell to win
The analogy works for the PS3 as well. I want some form of HD console to be in the running in Japan, but I realize the PS3 is no better than the LA Galaxy. Lalas (Hirai) makes all these bold claims of potential but the team is so far behind someone like Man Utd (Wii). that it's the worse team in an inferior league. We keep getting promises of AAAs, but in reality all we got was a broken port of David Beckham that wouldn't even have passed EA's QA. I like Galaxy, I also realize it'll be a miracle if they could compete with ManU.
See this analogy also works because United (the Wii) hasn't being doing so well in recent weeks and critics are ready to bury them. Relax, once Man Utd hits the holiday season, their exclusive lineup of Ronaldo/Tevez/Rooney will resume their usual domination.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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tehbear said:
That's the N64 syndrome: very complex hardware, with high developing times and very expensive to develop -> Lot of delays and non-dinamic compensation to slow periods. In other words: entire months without big games. And then, pardonnez-moi, Sony believed really that the first 5 millions PS3s would have sold without games. Otherwise, I don't explain this lackuster support. Gundam, Virtua Fighter 5 and Resistance are sure not enough and I'm sure they knew that. And then ,the price made the rest. Now they're trying to save what is still possible, but in doing so, they've forgotten the PSP and until the situation comes to a better standpoint, no big changes will happen: that's why I'm worried with the PSP. Pratically it is only in Third Parties's hands. And even here, Sony overstimated Third Parties's faithfulness and now they're trying to recover with aquisitions of studios and paying big exclusivities, that otherwise would go on X360 too. Sony is really trying "to fill holes" a little bit everywhere.
As Yoichi Wada said, Sony has not really a great strategy because they've done too many mistakes and now it's diffficult to recover.
That's actually been there for years. Supposedly it originated from around the early/middle GC-generation when the flavor of the day amongst uninformed analysts and forum posters alike was to predict that Nintendo would go the way of Sega to being third party only despite the fact that they were still pulling good and consistent profits.?rushed said:
kisakiproject
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Jonnyram said:
Way better than halo 2. Oblivion ps3 is weak. 360 sold 45k.
DefectiveReject said:
Here
This is PS2 (2000, 2001) from June 1 and the Wii (2007) from June 1. PS2 2000 was supply-constrained. PS2 2001 and Wii 2007 are not supply-constrained. It isn't as bad as I thought, but Wii is still the lowest line for the current time period.
apujanata said:
No, they can't. The DS hasn't had a single holiday sales period in Japan (except maybe launch?) where it wasn't in supply constraints. Nintendo needs to keep the 2.5 million / month through January, and then re-evaluate global demand.
Pristine_Condition said:
In the 3rd week for Bladestorm and the ~40th week for Wii Sports. Shocking, I know.
apujanata said:
:lol
apujanata said:
:lol :lol
You're on a roll this week.
FlightOfHeaven said:
And bad Wii sales are bad. Bad! Wii sales. Bad! Get back in your Wiihouse!
JoshuaJSlone
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So here's a few numbers I don't mention frequently, but as the US versions have come up recently in the NPD thread...
Wii weeks ownership: 93.8 million
PS3 weeks ownership: 34.4 million
DS weeks ownership: 859.1 million
PSP weeks ownership: 338.7 million
PS2 2000: Week of 2000-06-05
PS2 2001: Week of 2000-06-04
Wii 2007: Week of 2007-06-04
I really need to change it so that it will at least display the actual date it starts with, even if it accepts arbitrary input.
Wii weeks ownership: 93.8 million
PS3 weeks ownership: 34.4 million
DS weeks ownership: 859.1 million
PSP weeks ownership: 338.7 million
Just a note to you or anyone else making such comparisons. You can put in any arbitrary date, but it will start with the next available numbers. So it's possible one of those lines could start on June 1 while another would start on June 7, though starting with May 31 would give a closer match. By chance, though, this one works out to as close a comparison as you could hope for:donny2112 said:
PS2 2000: Week of 2000-06-05
PS2 2001: Week of 2000-06-04
Wii 2007: Week of 2007-06-04
I really need to change it so that it will at least display the actual date it starts with, even if it accepts arbitrary input.
Xisiqomelir
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You people :lol
I wonder what the PSP drop-off next week will be. I say at least 40%
I wonder what the PSP drop-off next week will be. I say at least 40%