Rice-Eater
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AniHawk said:
Phoenix Down: The Game
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Media Create Sales 12/17 - 12/23 2007
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Phoenix Down: The Game
MisterHero
Super Member
Guys I think he means Nintendogsmoku said:
it began as a GC game
Michan said:
Easter is Golden Week in Japan (vacation time, so sales go up at that period). But I thought DS sales really went up at the end of 05; and DS Lite came out around Easter?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Week_(Japan)
Flakster99
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Very impressed with the amount of 3rd party DS titles on the list. It looks to be doing a fine job of being the successor of the PS2 3rd party wise, and to think the DS is only 3 years in. Also nice Wii Fit sales, and as the weeks fly by my anticipation for Wii Fit is growing by leaps and bounds. Can't wait. 
MisterHero
Super Member
Smash Bros DS even without Sakurai's input (heaven forbid) would mop the floor with Brawl and that's why Nintendo won't do it.
Guys just get the Kirby Superstar remake when it comes out.
Guys just get the Kirby Superstar remake when it comes out.
evilromero
Member
Mario Galaxy is definitely showing some serious sustaining power. I wasn't sure how it would pan out after several weeks but it's looking like it'll hold strong for a long while. Mario Party DS is one of those games I would have expected to do well but it still surprises me to see it beat out WiiFit.
Rancid Mildew
Banned
FFIV is performing way below my expectations. I really thought it'd be a surefire million seller. Hopefully it will be able to get there.
The Japanese sales resurgence of Super Mario Galaxy is highly welcome. Let's hope it breaks a million before the holiday sales season is over.
The Japanese sales resurgence of Super Mario Galaxy is highly welcome. Let's hope it breaks a million before the holiday sales season is over.
DarthWaiter
Banned
doesn't surprise me about Mario Party DS. It's been sold out around here for weeks
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78657donny2112 said:
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
Very happy to see DQIVr >>>>>>>>> FFIVr.
The remake is far too close to the GBA game. Counting Anthology, FFIV has been released 3 times in about 8 years.
The 3D in that game looks shit to me too. I'm only gonna buy it to hear the music - which was severely butchered on the GBA.
Galaxy back up there makes me giddy as hell.
The remake is far too close to the GBA game. Counting Anthology, FFIV has been released 3 times in about 8 years.
The 3D in that game looks shit to me too. I'm only gonna buy it to hear the music - which was severely butchered on the GBA.
Galaxy back up there makes me giddy as hell.
yankeeforever2
Member
.....So whats the main difference between this and the GBA version?Busaiku said:
BobbyRobby
Member
yankeeforever2 said:
3D graphics, voice acting
Yeah, those FFIVr numbers aren't great (60% of the shipment according to Famitsu?), especially compared to the DQIVr numbers, but I guess DQ's always been more popular than FF in Japan, and I don't think DQIV has been re-released like three times in the past decade or so. Plus, apparently all the previous FF ports/remakes (FF1&2 on Wonderswan/GBA/PSP/PS1, FF IV/V/VI on PS1, FFIV Advance, etc.) weren't huge saleswise (I don't think any of them reached a million?) so maybe it's in line with expectations (if on the lower end).
FFIII DS is the big exception, just clearing over a million, and perhaps not so coincidentally it's the only FF game that hadn't been previously ported/remade before it was released. I don't think this affects the chances for (more) FFV and VI remakes, since Square's never been one to avoid remaking and porting everything in its back catalog.
On the "this remake took more effort" - didn't FF Collection on PS1 have full CG movies? Besides that, they've reused the FFIII engine, and added VA, which I guess would be the biggest "new" cost, but even that can't be that expensive. So I'm pretty sure with 280,000 first week they're already raking in major profits.
FFIII DS is the big exception, just clearing over a million, and perhaps not so coincidentally it's the only FF game that hadn't been previously ported/remade before it was released. I don't think this affects the chances for (more) FFV and VI remakes, since Square's never been one to avoid remaking and porting everything in its back catalog.
On the "this remake took more effort" - didn't FF Collection on PS1 have full CG movies? Besides that, they've reused the FFIII engine, and added VA, which I guess would be the biggest "new" cost, but even that can't be that expensive. So I'm pretty sure with 280,000 first week they're already raking in major profits.
DanielJohnson
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Nuts. DQIV is hitting a million next week and Galaxy should definitely be at a million by the end of january.
Any major releases coming up next week or the week after?
Any major releases coming up next week or the week after?
yankeeforever2
Member
This makes me wonder, will the top 100 be 3/4 Nintendo systems games, 50 of those being DS games.
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Deleted member 17706
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I'm one of those WiiFit purchasers... It's actually kind of fun and it motivates me to continue doing sit-ups / push-ups / other muscle-building excercises.
Considering it's the holidays here in Japan these kind of sales are pretty much expected. All you see in the front of stores is Wii, WiiFit, DS Lite, Dragon Quest IV and Final Fantasy IV.
I expect 2008 to be a huge year (comparitively) for the PS3 in Japan, though. The only games I really see being pushed for the system right now in Japan are Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and Uncharted. Neither of those games are system sellers (at least in Japan) so it's pretty easy to understand why the PS3 isn't able to put up much of a fight this holiday season.
Considering it's the holidays here in Japan these kind of sales are pretty much expected. All you see in the front of stores is Wii, WiiFit, DS Lite, Dragon Quest IV and Final Fantasy IV.
I expect 2008 to be a huge year (comparitively) for the PS3 in Japan, though. The only games I really see being pushed for the system right now in Japan are Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and Uncharted. Neither of those games are system sellers (at least in Japan) so it's pretty easy to understand why the PS3 isn't able to put up much of a fight this holiday season.
Rancid Mildew said:
Then let's adjust those expectations, shall we?
Ordered by first week sales:
Code:
NDS Final Fantasy III 502K .. 52K .. 53K ... 1 million (20070701; probably would've done better with more stock early on)
[b]NDS Final Fantasy IV 309K[/b]
WS Final Fantasy 147K .. 56K .. 44K ... 377K (20011230)
GBA Final Fantasy V Advance 147K .. 33K .. 14K ... 243K (20061231)
WS Final Fantasy II 147K .. 28K .. 17K ... 242K (20011230)
GBA Final Fantasy VI Advance 137K .. 36K .. ... 280K (20070701)
GBA Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls 137K .. 34K .. 26K ... 269K (20041226)
PS1 Final Fantasy IV 119K .. 49K .. 23K ... 261K (19971228)
GBA Final Fantasy IV Advance 99K .. 35K .. 21K ... 219K (20061231)
PS1 Final Fantasy II 57K .. 25K .. 14K ... 138K (20021229)
PS1 Final Fantasy 55K .. 23K .. 14K ... 122K (20021229)
PSP Final Fantasy 53K .. 41K .. ... 118K (20070701)
PS1 Final Fantasy V 51K .. 20K .. 11K ... 152K (19981227)
PSP Final Fantasy II 34K .. 12K .. ... 46K (20070617)
PS1 Final Fantasy VI 27K .. 10K .. ... 37K (19990321)
WS Final Fantasy IV 20K .. 6K .. 4K ... 30K (20020414)ethelred said:
I'm going to assume you haven't looked at the numbers. :lol
moku said:
You forget, this is the same company that didn't feel the need to start on the sequel to their best selling Gamecube game until 4 years after it came out, giving priority to shit like Kirby Air Ride. Same thing with Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat and SMG.
I like Nintendo, but some of the decisions they make causes the mind to boggle.
donny2112 said:
Okay, so you weren't joking. This is a bit worrisome. Methinks you need to reevaluate this stance a bit, Donny.
donny2112 said:
I'm well aware of the numbers. Comparing this full remake to straight ports is kinda dumb, to be honest. The only real comparison point there is FFIII and it's underperforming that by a lot.
Mr. Pointy
Member
FFIV will probably crawl to 700k, which is about as much as Crisis Core did LTD. I don't think Square will be unhappy.
DanielJohnson
Banned
But the same source material came out less than a year ago...how could that not affect sales??ethelred said:
The Faceless Master
Member
calm down, calm down, we don't know how many copies sold on the PSN.AniHawk said:
ethelred said:
So the only worthy comparison point is to the one game that started better? Interesting.
>60% of the initial shipment sold. This is not some "no one bought it" bomb. Would it have been nice for it to have done better, especially considering the extra work (outside of the game engine itself?) that went into it? Sure. However, saying that it did less than FFIIIDS and therefore was "not good" is too pessimistic, in my opinion.
Mr. Pointy said:
I expect it to sell about the same as Crisis Core when it's done.
ethelred said:
Well, the previous ports were somewhat "enhanced" (CG movies, additional levels and weapons) to justify their re-release value, but of course nothing on this scale. Though reusing the basic FFIII engine probably cut down costs a lot.
But I think all those changes (3D engine, VA, etc.) were necessary to reach even this level of sales and justify it to consumers. If it were another port, sales would probably be far lower.
And for why it should sell notably better than previous re-releases/ports - VA, new gameplay mechanics, character conversations, etc. are nice "touches" but aren't the sort of thing that would sell it on its own. Probably the biggest reason is the move to 3D with better graphics, but I thought we'd established that Japan wasn't really an "OMG 3D graphics" sort of place (and that 2D games sold from about equally well to much, much better).
Rancid Mildew
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ethelred said:
Yep. That's the only thing that matters. FFIVre was the far more ambitious undertaking and the more popular game. Even if the quantity of prior releases should have mitigated my expectations (I disagree with this by the way), surely no one expected that it would drop this significantly in comparison to FF3.
lordfroakie
Member
AniHawk said:
Devil May Cry 4 Bundle?
Comparing it to previous iterations is dumb, yet comparing it only to a game never before revisited isn't? Looking at it in context, it is understandably doing worse than the latter, and better than the former (which is good, since as you have mentioned, more work was put into it).ethelred said: