fistfulofmetal
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Did anyone think Uncharted would do anything in Japan?
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Media Create Sales 12/3 - 12/9 2007
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Hellsing321
Member
God bless Wii Fit for bringing Galaxy back in the Top 10.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
People are still calling for big successes with 360 games?
Ace Combat was an Anomaly, not the norm. 360 Japan is nothing like 360 USA.
Ace Combat was an Anomaly, not the norm. 360 Japan is nothing like 360 USA.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
HK-47 said:
I really don't think so. Let's look at the facts:
(1) Namco releases TotT, it sucks, it does poorly.
(2) Namco announces that the DS is the new Tales platform of choice to much surprise, because of (1)
(3) Namco ships only 150k Tales of Innocence for week one, indicating that they know it's not going to do that well at first.
Namco is the dumbest company ever, but I don't think that they're so dumb as to not realize that if they can overcome TotT, the DS could actually be a decent platform for Tales. ToI has been getting some great (anecdotal) reviews, and I expect it'll be leggier than most Tales games by virtue of the fact that goodwill is being relied on to restore the brand as it relates to the DS.
I really wonder why Mistwalker are accepting Microsoft's money to send these games to die one after another. I think that Sakaguchi needs to get some perspective and make games on the Wii so that Japan can buy them. Clearly the only problem with Lost Odyssey is that it's on the 360.
You see, I don't think anyone knows or cares about LO in Japan. As soon as they found out the platform the interest was dead. Unless Mistwalker want the reputation of creating bombs for money they need to drop the 360 for a platform that their games can sell on and do it fast. They are doing their name, their company, no favors at all by making games exclusive on the 360 to die. I don't care if the 360 want to keep throwing money down the toilet in a attempt to get into Japan but it sucks that they will destroy the reputation of a very talented development team while doing it.
For Christ sake, get some perspective, make a Wii game and market the fuck out of it to get some sales and your company name in everyones mind.
Those Lost Odyssey numbers are a disgrace, no one can deny it.
Other then that, pretty average week.
You see, I don't think anyone knows or cares about LO in Japan. As soon as they found out the platform the interest was dead. Unless Mistwalker want the reputation of creating bombs for money they need to drop the 360 for a platform that their games can sell on and do it fast. They are doing their name, their company, no favors at all by making games exclusive on the 360 to die. I don't care if the 360 want to keep throwing money down the toilet in a attempt to get into Japan but it sucks that they will destroy the reputation of a very talented development team while doing it.
For Christ sake, get some perspective, make a Wii game and market the fuck out of it to get some sales and your company name in everyones mind.
Those Lost Odyssey numbers are a disgrace, no one can deny it.
Other then that, pretty average week.
gray_fox224
Junior Member
_Alkaline_ said:
barely.
Hmm, the top does not really surprise me.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Mario & Sonic is pulling a Brain Training! Look at it fly!
DeaconKnowledge
Member
I'm really not seeing the logic that makes abandoning the DS because of a stupid decision that the company made with a previous title at all sensible. It's pretty obvious that Namco had TotT shit out expecting crap to sell on the DS, got torched for it, and is now making amends.
And if they keep their current path they will die with Microsoft in Japan because their name means shit to Japan while their games are on the 360.Defuser said:
If Microsoft had half a brain they would allow the development of a major MistWalker a major title on a platform that can sell just to get the name "MistWalker" in everyones mind so that their own games can fucking sell.
I care nothing for the 360, but seeing this complete rejection happen to the creator of my favorite FFVII saddens me greatly.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
To be fair, MistWalker has released a game for the DS, ie the hottest system in Japan, which has also met with completely underwhelming sales. I'm not sure the problem is completely the 360's.Lightning said:
DeaconKnowledge
Member
I had a feeling it would. I think it would have done far better at launch if Sega had pitched it properly as a Wii Sports spiritual successor.Segata Sanshiro said:
Pureauthor
Member
Nice sales for Galaxy, Layton, and DQ. Some disparity with Famitsu, there...
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Segata Sanshiro said:
Actually it's Microsoft's fault.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Frankly, I think the only options Mistwalker has is either letting MS buy them out or completely changing hardware focus.
DeaconKnowledge said:
Well the Tales fanbase doesn't like the franchise being on a hardware that can't live up to expectations the series has had for almost 10 years now. That isn't going to help sales...
Until they start going to carts the size of at least a few cds, Tales games on DS will keep on getting gimped with lack of voice acting, one of the major reasons why the games do well in Japan. Tempest had no voice, and Innocence has voice for the story, but the skits (where the majority of the dialogue is) are only about 10% voiced because of space concerns.
If they moved Tales to at least Wii where they could do full voice like pretty much EVERY GAME IN THE SERIES for 10 years the sales should go up noticeably.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
duckroll said:
And didn't Shadow Hearts FtNW release on a system with 800 times the userbase?
I think Namco's fine with Tales of Innocence's sales on the DS. With the DS you don't have the development costs you do as on the PSP, not to mention that you're going up against quite a lot of competition on the DS (15 other games to be exact this week, many of them returning).
I think Namco's also counting on Innocence to have legs, something PSP games rarely have.
I think Namco's also counting on Innocence to have legs, something PSP games rarely have.
Segata Sanshiro said:
I really wanted to like ASH, but if they would have simply went with basic turn based combat, it would have been much better. Still, I doubt they put that much money into it, so they probably walked away with good gains all the way around. Which would help fund other projects. Mistwalker does kinda need to figure out what makes a good game in some way, but I can't imagine these 360 experiments being profitable or good for their image.
Bebpo said:
Really? You're serious? Voice acting?
America has been dealing without voice in the skits in both Symphonia and Abyss and it didn't stop either of those from being great. Is Japan really so sensitive about voice acting?
Segata Sanshiro
Member
:lolJammy said:
I reaaaallly doubt it.
Which 'it'? All of it.
Pureauthor
Member
ZealousD said:
Yeah, but it bombed for reasons completely unrelated to why Mistwalker games bomb on X360.
Ash Sparrow
Banned
nice starting number for Lo considering its a 360 game in Japan.
Wow Uncharted looks great, sad to see it go the way of the dino.
Wow Uncharted looks great, sad to see it go the way of the dino.