Stumpokapow
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jarrod said:
Interesting. I thought Love and Berry was partially notable because it was the first Japanese million seller from SEGA. What did VF2 end up sitting at?
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Media Create Sales 12/31 - 1/6 2008
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Interesting. I thought Love and Berry was partially notable because it was the first Japanese million seller from SEGA. What did VF2 end up sitting at?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
jarrod said:
Very interesting. Was VF2 a pack-in at some point? I have a recollection of a VF1 launch bundle locally but I'm not sure if that was a retailer bundle or SEGA's doing.
Stumpokapow said:
In some ways, NeoGAF reminds me of the genetic algorithms used to model stock markets or climate change. The algorithms that prove to be more accurate over time will survive, just as the NeoGAF members whose analyses and predictions prove to be more accurate will gain in credibility. You don't need to worry about your credibility here.
I think we've probably eeked out most of the useful discussion we can have on this issue, or at least I'm starting to get exhausted
I responded via PM. Get some rest - I'm looking forward to your insights next week.
creamsugar said:
How long if ever till we start seeing the PSP outselling the DS? I imagine Nintendo has a new system design ready to go once that starts happening. I must say that Sony has done an excellent job at giving new life to the PSP hardware. Now if only the software sales would match the hardware the battle could get very interesting.
Xisiqomelir
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Stumpokapow said:
I'd be happy to do this if someone gave me the data. We shut down production at work today because of a problem with the bottling machinery, so it's going to be slow going since I also forgot to bring my DS.
hiryu said:
I doubt Nintendo will really worry about the DS being outsold by the PSP in hardware if it ever happens, since they're making an absolute killing on the software.
I mean honestly, when they have Animal Crossing: Wild World, Mario Kart DS, the Brain Trainings, Pokemon Diamond/Pearl and New Super Mario Bros. STILL selling adequate numbers 1-2 years after their initial release dates, they're in no rush to push out a new hardware revision.
Which reminds me, when was the last new DS Lite colour released?
I think it is time for me to raise my PSP hardware prediction in Japan.
At the beginning of last year I thought about 10 million LTD would be what the PSP hits.
Now I'm thinking it will do GBA numbers, around 16 to 17 million overall. I'll take the middle and say 16.5 million. I still might be shortchanging the system too depending on how long Sony keeps the PSP pumping. With hardware sales starting to get stronger and stronger for the portable, I wouldn't expect another PSP for perhaps 3 years. Now sony will start making big money on hardware alone. It would be amazing if 50 million combined pieces of portable hardware is sold this generation in Japan alone.
Looking at the PSP uptake, I think we'll see a PS3 uptake somewhere in the future too. I'm upping my PS3 prediction now too from 10-12 million LTD to 16-20 million, depending on how big of a factor blu ray becomes.
DS I got around 32-35 million and Wii 20-24 million.
I think Wada will get what he wants, but the sony systems just are off to a slower start due to price.
MHP2 is a beast for the PSP.
At the beginning of last year I thought about 10 million LTD would be what the PSP hits.
Now I'm thinking it will do GBA numbers, around 16 to 17 million overall. I'll take the middle and say 16.5 million. I still might be shortchanging the system too depending on how long Sony keeps the PSP pumping. With hardware sales starting to get stronger and stronger for the portable, I wouldn't expect another PSP for perhaps 3 years. Now sony will start making big money on hardware alone. It would be amazing if 50 million combined pieces of portable hardware is sold this generation in Japan alone.
Looking at the PSP uptake, I think we'll see a PS3 uptake somewhere in the future too. I'm upping my PS3 prediction now too from 10-12 million LTD to 16-20 million, depending on how big of a factor blu ray becomes.
DS I got around 32-35 million and Wii 20-24 million.
I think Wada will get what he wants, but the sony systems just are off to a slower start due to price.
MHP2 is a beast for the PSP.
The only way PSP even approaches GBA figures is if it gets another rerelease down the line... maybe a PSPhone? Otherwise, it's tracking waaay too far behind GBA to catch up (and the slim's tracking behind SP even iirc), though it obviously won't have to worry about it's successor looming quite as close. Then again, another late PSP model release might just tank like GB micro did. :/Mrbob said:
I bet we get 2-3m in total sales this year, around 12-14m lifetime. For other console lifetimes this gen, I'd bet on 32-35m DS, 16-18m Wii, 6-8m PS3, 1-1.5m 360 (srsly!).
Not the initial release, the multiplayer relrelease.ethelred said:
Magicpaint
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BTW how well is Rune Factory 2 selling versus the first?
The numbers look good to me, for a sub-series, but I want to know if it's doing better or worse than the first.
The numbers look good to me, for a sub-series, but I want to know if it's doing better or worse than the first.
Magicpaint
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What did the first one total at? Up to 200k?jarrod said:
jarrod said:
Right. And it's doing more than fine. It's a rerelease of the same port, just with the added North American chapter.
Magicpaint said:
Code:
Name: Sys: 1st Week: 2nd Week: 3rd Week: Total:
Rune Factory NDS 39,973 18,415 10,208 125,445
Rune Factory 2 NDS 56,000 18,000 --,--- 74,000Magicpaint
Member
Hmmm, then I reckon this will struggle to match that. :/jarrod said:
I'm not sure if making Rune Factory its own series is a great idea tbh, because I can only see things going down from here.
Thanks. Ok, I take back what I said. This will likely outperform the original which is great.ethelred said:
It also had expanded multiplayer options I thought? If PO+ can come close to 50% of PO figures, why can't this? It's not like Disgaga Portable even moved much (~50k iirc), yet the expanded, budget rerelease never even charted iirc. :/ethelred said:
How about some "more than fine" figures? I can't seem to find them?
jarrod said:
If you can't find any figures, maybe you shouldn't be going on about how poorly it did, eh?
Disgaea Portable sold 21k in its first week for a total of 38k LTD. The rerelease sold 17k in its first week. It didn't chart in its second week but I think it's safe to say that it certainly sold at least 50% of the original, which meets your qualifications.
Also, you really need to reign in these "iircs," because you aren't recalling so well! That's twice in the span of two posts.
Phife Dawg
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Thx. Pretty impressive WiiFit numbers and all those DS games still refuse to die. Good to see SMG and UC still hanging around. UC could end up with 300k+ sold when all is said and done - pretty remarkable for what it is and considering RE4 did 450k on PS2.creamsugar said:
AnimeTheme
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jarrod said:
Shinobi said the first shipment was almost completely sold out in its first week. I don't see how that can be considered "tanked". You just can't expect too much from this.
By the way, Shinobi has quoted an interesting survey conducted by SCE regarding PSP Slim.
http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/
Motives for buying PSP Slim
1：65%：Thin, light and small
2：39%：Design and colors
3：38%：Music, movies and other multimedia features
4：27%：Interesting softwares
5：21%：1Seg Tuner
6：19%：It's Sony!
7：14%：Price
8：13%：TV output
Percentage of buyers based on PSP colors (male/female)
black：82%／18%
white：83%／17%
silver：86%／14%
blue：80%／20%
purple：74%／26%
pink：50%／50%
The percentage of female buyers of old fat PSP is just 13%, so there is a significant increase in the case of PSP Slim.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I don't think you can translate the PSP's uptake onto the PS3 because it wasn't out of the strength as a gaming platform but becaus of the media functionality auf PSP. So I think PS3 isn't set to have a similiar resurrection - as long as blu-ray doesn't become a major selling point. [Ignoring the fact that all of this is just anecdotal evidence and you can't derive PS3's sales number out of PSP's at all]Mrbob said:
Pureauthor
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spwolf said:
Wait, S$280 for a 'freaking GPS thing' is worth it? Do you use dollar notes as tissue paper of something?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
linsivvi said:
Well, SEGA's announced prediction was 4 million worldwide with both SKUs combined. Split that in two since they never specified which they expected to sell more (clearly the Wii is the lead, but the DS has the install base). That's 2 million worldwide for each. Split that in three territories, and you'll get 600-700k per SKU per territory. Now, realistically Europe and NA will be doing more than 33% each of the total sales, but the game only needs to make it to 650k to do as well as SEGA expected. 600k is a no brainer in my opinion, so in the end SEGA's prediction might end up coming true.
I'm not sure that the DS game will do quite as well in Japan.
spwolf said:
Well, technically, resurrection only works on something that died and needs to be brought back to life. You can't resurrect a machine that was stillborn.
jarrod said:
Welcome!
Stumpokapow said:
Who knows? We could very well see a Mario Party 8 / Mario Party DS situation play out with it, too.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
jarrod said:
I genuinely believe MPDS is continuing to do well because of positive word of mouth. It's the best Mario Party ever made, so for casual fans of the series who don't buy every installment, this is a must buy. Plus, four player download play on a single card. Very appealing.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I don't know if you are happy with PS3 sales, if you are you may read it as "increase sales as much as PSP did". From my point of view PS3 is underperforming much so I call it resurrection but if your standard for main PlayStations is this low, there you go...spwolf said:
Pureauthor
Member
BTW, I think the newest set of numbers just confirmed that FFIV is not going to reach FFIII.
test_account
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spindoc said:
I assume it includes games as well, since games is also software. However, it can also means the reasons why to buy a PSP Slim if you already have a normal PSP. PSP Slim have double the amount of RAM so software like Skype will only work with PSP slim due to this.
charlequin
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Pureauthor said:
Yeah. I had no good reason to whatsoever, but I was hoping for a number in the ~40k region to show that sales were still continuing at some halfway decent pace. 20k means the game is almost done and will probably crap out at 600k.