Media Create Sales: 7/21 - 7/27

Spiegel said:
The thing is that PSP is a healty platform in Japan and probably it's going to get big new games. The S-E party today is a great example.

But NDS isn't going to stop getting those because of that.

And that's fantastic for gamers.

I think this overstates it very slightly. I agree pretty much with your point, PSP is healthy, and it's going to be getting some more games to appeal to it's userbase, but I'm not convinced as to the amount of new games the PSP is going to get. It's kind of an unusual problem for the platform, hardware sales are very healthy, software sales are not (they've been improving, PSP PSP is an example of that, but still nothing compared to the DS or even the Wii).

I think that it will get, and deserves more games, but it definitely shouldn't be stealing franchises from the DS (Not to say it won't, but it SHOULDN'T). Instead I'd expect a lot more unique games, already established play station franchises, etc. and maybe a few new series. in all honesty though it's hard for me to see a huge number of new games, an uptick sure, that's absolutely deserved but not too much of one.
 
Shinobi's latest article tells us that BN is expecting "exceptional" 120K domestic sales for ToV.
And looks like preorder is going well.

He also reports that Raidou2 special edition won't include OST, only first shipment of normal edition will have it.
I feel ya fans who have to buy both of them.
 
Mithos Yggdrasill said:
Definitely PSP has THE momentum in Japan now. If DS went down and PSP went up, is mostly Nintendo's fault to have suddendly stopped to make big, potential million-sellers games on DS. A dumb move IMHO.
We all knew before Nintendo would focus more on Wii and that makes sense. Even with being such a big publisher Nintendo still has its limitations. Supporting two plattforms is not that easy. Just look at SCE for further proof. With that being said the support is still there and with Mario Party DS they released an actual million seller (amongst other games) during PSP's resurgence.

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
lawl at the damage control
Yeah seriously, PSP only had small budget and brand games except MH, MGS, FFVII and GTA in comparison to DS? lolz

Fady K said:
My question is - with Nintendo copublishing it - why the hell didnt it get marketed better? I know, Nintendo is not too good with marketing its games, but still, this isnt a Nintendo game, its also a Grasshopper M. and Tecmo game!

Btw, do you have any idea if famed Grasshopper composer Masafumi Takada worked on the music of FF? If he did that would be SO awesome ;_;
I don't know about Japan but here in Germany they do far more advertising than they did last gen and by the looks of it they're quite successful too. Their approach with niche titles was laid out before. They obviously don't see the benefits of advertising these because the fanbase will buy the games regardless of advertising and other people won't be persuaded to buy the games in big enough numbers to warrant such an investment.

This doesn't have to neccessarily be a bad thing. It helps to keep the budgets down and with the games needing less copies to sell to break even it's easier to get them green-lit. Just look at some of the games Nintendo published on DS.
 
Going on a FF4 sales tangent here. Would it be safe to say that all of the previous Fatal Frame game sales combined wouldn't even approach 1 million units? If the US sales of the series really aren't much better than the Japanese sales, the European sales wouldn't be hugely better, would they?

Could one say that No More Heroes out sold the entire FF series combined?
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
I thought looking at the top sales of games between specific dates was pretty interesting, so put a new tool in Labs to do similar things for arbitrary time frames and/or publishers and/or platforms.

Doing this, though, I realized how similar it is in input and output to the old Game Search. Probably they should end up combined.
Now THAT'S a good idea. One I've taken to heart.

I've tried to combine the key features of both of those pages and a few more new things into this new game search. It sits in Labs for now, but the plan is to have it replace the old Game Search once it's been vetted for a while and fixes/further suggestions have been taken care of.

Major changes from old game search:
In the old Game Search, you could specify a Release Date by using an exact date, or with wildcards. That allowed you to do things like narrow things down to a specific year, or month, or all dates that are the 10th of the month for some reason. Now, however, you can specify a range of dates. That allows new possibilities, but if you want it to behave like the old one (for checking releases on the 10th for whatever reason), you can put NONE in for the second date.

Since I switched that to a range, the same has been done for Launch Price. And in the same way, you can make it act like the old way by putting NONE in the for second option.

Order By. In the old game search it first arranged things by platform, then by release date. Now you can be much more freestyle with this. By title alphabetically, OK. From greatest to least sales, OK. From greatest to least price, OK. Hopefully the short description and examples included there are OK; it seemed much easier to program in and more powerful from the user point of view than if I'd tried to give a few options from checklists or whatever.

Column hiding. Looking up some javascript for a related purpose recently, I learned how to make columns appear and disappear at will. This seems a decent solution for when there are many possible things to show, but you'd rather concentrate on... whatever you want to concentrate on. For now there are two columns that start as hidden: the Japanese title (I think it's safe to say that most current users lean more English than Japanese) and the "As of" date for when the game's LTD was last updated.

Feedback:
Feedback would be good. Bugs, of course. Feature suggestions, taken into consideration. But what I'm most interested in is presentation. It's something I tend to take into little consideration when slapping these things together, and since I know exactly what it's (supposed to be) doing, I'm not a great judge of how friendly things are. Could the instructions and examples on the right use improvement? Would it make more sense to order the inputs on the left in a different way? How about the order of columns on the bottom? Stuff like that.

Examples:
This version of the search uses almost the same parameters as the old one. This means both that links to search results from the old one should still work, and that it's easy for me to show before/after for how things look. Of course, if I use a fancy "Order By" or one of the other new features from the new one, it will get ignored for the old one.

Looking for the best selling Phantasy Stars, as we were recently? Old New
Looking for 2006 Atlus releases? Old New
Looking for the most successful games from D3 Publisher? Old New
Games with the word Bob in the title, from most recent on back? Old New
Cheap Square Enix titles? Old New
 
Mr. Pointy said:
Going on a FF4 sales tangent here. Would it be safe to say that all of the previous Fatal Frame game sales combined wouldn't even approach 1 million units? If the US sales of the series really aren't much better than the Japanese sales, the European sales wouldn't be hugely better, would they?

I can't imagine they sold any better in Europe, although we have no way of knowing.

Could one say that No More Heroes out sold the entire FF series combined?

Assuming you're looking at Europe being the same size as Japan or the US for the game, you'd have to sell 450k to outsell the previous three combined and if you assume the same numbers for the 4th game, that's another 150k.

I'm not going to speak to ship-sell disparity, but I can say very confidently that NMH outsold any of the three previous installments individually, but not combined based on data that we know. I'm pretty sure we got shipment updates from Marvelous, but I don't have the inclination to dig up shipment info for FF1-3.
 
PantherLotus said:
Does your site output data to an excel file automatically? That could be cool.
I don't know anything about outputting to specific spreadsheet formats, but outputting to something simple and almost universally usable like CSV should be doable.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
I don't know anything about outputting to specific spreadsheet formats, but outputting to something simple and almost universally usable like CSV should be doable.

Output to CSV or TSV rather than Excel. It'll save you so many headaches and everything can open it anyway; TSV would be safer because there are commas in game names and while you can escape data entries with quotation marks, it's easier to just use a delimiter that doesn't screw shit up.
 
As a test and to show how simple it really is, rather than trying to add in a new option right now I just took the new search's code and modified it so it doesn't do any of the HTML stuff. Just take any of the result pages from testbetweendates2.php and change that part of the URL to the new filename.

testbetweendates3csv.php uses comma-separated values. Then I saw Stumpokapow's suggestion, and made the small further modification testbetweendates3tsv.php for tab-separated values.

Example, going back to the Phantasy Star link from above.
New Search HTML
New Search CSV
New Search TSV

It seems like they work... mostly. Viewed in a browser the newlines don't come across, but they're there when you save it or view the source. Also it by default shows the Japanese characters as gibberish until I manually tell the browser it's UTF-8 Unicode; I've never needed to mess with outputting different encodings outside of HTML before.

Excel seems to assume a file with .csv extension is using Western encoding, but when I opened the other which I'd saved as .tsv it asked me to confirm such things.

OpenOffice.org asked me to confirm encodings when opening the .csv file, but since it didn't recognize the .tsv extension thought it must be a text file. Once I renamed it to a .csv file it gave me the same options as before, including choosing Tab as the delimiter rather than comma.
 
Rock_Man said:
Awesome work indeed, Joshua. I like the new column 'As of the week of'.
It's been around for the lists of software by platform and groups, but it isn't really needed for pages dealing with specific weeks or showing a lifetime's worth of data. It wasn't in the old search, but then the old search didn't show any sales data at all.

The old search was really simple. It really just grew from me having it list every piece of software in the database. Once that list became huge, though, I realized, "Hey. With a slight modification I can make it show NOT all of the software!"
 
I've been using Josh's site for a while. It's really great stuff.
 
PantherLotus said:
Can anybody produce a timeline of when the different colors for each system have been released?

I know the DSL was released in 03/06 and the PSP Slim was just released, but I'm looking for any additional colors/packages/etc and their dates of release.

If anybody can help he or she will be fully credited! :)

-04/20/2006 New Color PSP "Ceramic White" [PSP-1000 CW] introduced.

-11/22/2006 New Color PSP "Pink" [PSP-1000 PK] introduced.

-12/14/2006 New Color PSP "Silver" [PSP-1000 SV] introduced.

-12/21/2006 New Color PSP "Metalic Blue" [PSP-1000 MB] introduced.

-02/22/2007 New color: PSP "Champagne Gold” [PSP-1000 CG] introduced.


-09/20/2007 New PSP “Piano Black”[PSP-2000 PB], “Ice Silver” [PSP-2000 IS], “Ceramic White”[PSP-2000 CW], “Felicia Blue”[PSP-2000 FB], “Lavender Purple”[PSP-2000 LP], and “Rose Pink”[PSP-2000 RP] introduced

-12/13/2007 New Color: PSP Value Pack “Deep Red” [PSP-20000]

-02/28/2008 New color: PSP “Mint Green” [PSP-2000 MG] introduced.

-04/24/2008 New Color: PSP Value Pack “Matte Bronze” [PSP-20002] introduced.
 
One thing I didn't specifically ask for feedback in a previous post was what you think the default ordering of results should be, since it will end up the most frequently used. Right now it first sorts by platform, then release date. But that's just another leftover trait that was convenient when there were only a few dozen PS3 and Wii games yet in the database. Now I'm kind of leaning towards ordering primarily by release date.
 
Release date.

By the way, I just realized that Xb360 software sales hold up much better against PS3 than PSP software sales do in relation to DS:

famitsu-ps3x360-080720b.png


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Edit: I forgot the title in the first graph, but I think you get it. Both covers latest Famitsu data through July 20.
 
Hmm I wonder if the PSP or DS will win hardware sales in the holidays. I'm guessing a rough 50/50 split because of the usual Nintendo boost, and PSP is the king of hardware at the moment.
 
BishopLamont said:
Hmm I wonder if the PSP or DS will win hardware sales in the holidays. I'm guessing a rough 50/50 split because of the usual Nintendo boost, and PSP is the king of hardware at the moment.

I'm guessing it will look very similar to this.

DSL
 
Famitsu top 10
2008-07-28 - 2008-08-03

1 PSP Phantasy Star Portable
2 NDS Rhythm Tengoku Gold

3 NDS Dragon Quest V
4 PS3 Soul Calibur IV
5 PS2 Powerful Pro Baseball 15
6 360 Soul Calibur IV
7 Wii Zero: Tsukihami no Kamen
8 Wii Wii Fit
9 NDS Dokidoki Majo Shinpan! 2
10 Wii Wario Land Shake

bold=new
 
Rock_Man said:
Famitsu top 10
2008-07-28 - 2008-08-03

1 PSP Phantasy Star Portable
2 NDS Rhythm Tengoku Gold

3 NDS Dragon Quest V
4 PS3 Soul Calibur IV
5 PS2 Powerful Pro Baseball 15
6 360 Soul Calibur IV
7 Wii Zero: Tsukihami no Kamen
8 Wii Wii Fit
9 NDS Dokidoki Majo Shinpan! 2
10 Wii Wario Land Shake

bold=new

Hmm.

Wii Fit has been at around 25-30k a week for the past month or so, so using that as a rough guide, FFIV may have done something like 30k+ in its opening week which, although a dip from the previous entry, is still pretty good & not the superbomb a lot of people were expecting. Good to see Wario Land holding in there for another week- that should be it up to something like 40k+ now which is a good improvement on the poor opening day sales.
 
Rock_Man said:
Famitsu top 10
2008-07-28 - 2008-08-03

1 PSP Phantasy Star Portable
2 NDS Rhythm Tengoku Gold

3 NDS Dragon Quest V
4 PS3 Soul Calibur IV
5 PS2 Powerful Pro Baseball 15
6 360 Soul Calibur IV
7 Wii Zero: Tsukihami no Kamen
8 Wii Wii Fit
9 NDS Dokidoki Majo Shinpan! 2
10 Wii Wario Land Shake

bold=new


Wario Land still in the top 10! That means atleast 20k+!
 
BishopLamont said:
Hmm I wonder if the PSP or DS will win hardware sales in the holidays. I'm guessing a rough 50/50 split because of the usual Nintendo boost, and PSP is the king of hardware at the moment.

Dissidia will be shipping in Dec with another PSP bundle set. That should be a pretty huge title. KH DS is also slated for "Winter" but it might not make it by Dec.

Frillen said:
Wario Land still in the top 10! That means atleast 20k+!

I heard that Fatal Frame 4 did like 22k for the week, so it might actually be under 20k for Wario.
 
Pachael said:
In other news, Hudson has announced that Deca Sports/Sports Island (Wii) has sold 700.000 units worldwide.
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1217184_1124.html

That's not bad at all!

Hudson have been doing really well with the Wii so far, both in terms of content & success. Not everything they've released - Wing Island, Deca Sports or some of their more lacklustre VC releases - has been to my taste, but they certainly seem to be thriving on the system.

I heard that Fatal Frame 4 did like 22k for the week, so it might actually be under 20k for Wario.

If it did, that would be terrible - first day sales were up around 21k according to Sinobi.
 
duckroll said:
Dissidia will be shipping in Dec with another PSP bundle set. That should be a pretty huge title. KH DS is also slated for "Winter" but it might not make it by Dec.



I heard that Fatal Frame 4 did like 22k for the week, so it might actually be under 20k for Wario.

Zero would be Fatal Frame, right? Considering it's under Soul Caliber for 360, which did 35k first day, and probably will end up around 50k for the week. I think it's safe to assume it's around 40k. Unless there was a steep drop off in sales for both games.

Edit: It looks like Dragon Quest V sold another 100k.
 
Sage00 said:
PSP = Phantasy Star Portable abbreviated.

Unless you meant something else was weird.


Yes, I misunderstood, I tought it was the global PSP games number for the week !

thank you
 
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