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Media Create Sales 8/27 - 9/2 2007
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MasterMFauli
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indie85 said:
wow, didnt take to long for sdf. :lol
Mithos Yggdrasill
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schuelma said:
The first thing I would say is that there are shortages. But Vinnk said that there aren't, so I don't know. Maybe is this a period that is traditionally slow ? But last year it wasn't if I good remember...
Another possibility is that DS has reached the saturation point (and after 20 millions handhelds it would not be SO strange) but why so fast ? And what about the Wii ? Maybe the interest has gone ? But I don't think that it is possbile in only two week. If the consumer loose interest with a machine, it doesn't in just 2 weeks and not with BOTH DS and Wii at the same time. No, simply this explication doesn't make sense.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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sp0rsk said:
The simplest explication is always the one that nobody never thought about. Thanks !
nicholasphan
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Sharp said:
um, but the difference is that PS3 is still tracking above what it had been averaging the past few months, whereas DS and Wii are tracking lower. I think that's the interesting part.
d+pad said:
Uh, SSBM and SMS say 'Hi.'
My point being that it isn't the hardcore games that have sent the Wii to its heightened popularity over the GameCube but rather the new casual-type games like Wii Sports. If the Wii is to get back to its previous level, it will most likely be due to those games (e.g. Wii Fit) and not the same type of games they had on the GameCube.
nicholasphan
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MasterMFauli said:
haha he is right to point that out though, since that is exactly what people were saying last week.
nicholasphan said:
Umm...its not really that interesting. If the Wii and DS are still significantly outselling the Sony consoles significantly even at their slowest point of the year...its really not that significant.
I don't think the PS3 is going to return to below 10k for a long while. That was mostly a result of its having basically no games out or forthcoming in the near future. Now we're finally starting to see more Japanese support for the PS3, so I don't think it will dip that low again. I suppose you could argue that the Wii is basically in the same situation the PS3 was not that long ago, and that the PS3's baseline is still not the same as what it's selling right now, but effectively what I said still holds.nicholasphan said:
Mithos Yggdrasill
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The Sphinx said:
For this year, has the PSP sold more/less then last year ? If yes, how much more/less ?
PS2 through August/September since 2002.
Basically, the PS2 seemed to consistently start off August well and then drop at some point in the month. (2006 probably had a significant game released during that time period.) Wii 2007 seems to bear a passing resemblance to PS2 2002, as well.
Edit:
JoshuaJSlone's site to the rescue, again.
Basically, the PS2 seemed to consistently start off August well and then drop at some point in the month. (2006 probably had a significant game released during that time period.) Wii 2007 seems to bear a passing resemblance to PS2 2002, as well.
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Mithos Yggdrasill said:
JoshuaJSlone's site to the rescue, again.
bcn-ron said:
Maybe I didn't articulate myself very well. What I mean is, even with this downward trend in sales the Wii is still outselling PS3 nearly 3-1 and the PS3's sales are still hovering around 10K. Right now there is no evidence that the PS3 is going to overtake the Wii in weekly sales anytime soon- It's a lesser degree of domination, but its still domination.
The point wasn't that the PS3 is going to overtake the Wii anytime soon, but that it's sales remain steady at a level that is much improved over the 8k, 9k per week slump we have seen earlier this year. You're lowballing them pretty hard btw.schuelma said:
The only reason the Wii is played into it is because its sales among all the other sales are a good measuring yardstick for seasonal market fluctuations.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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donny2112 said:
The gap is not that high, but at least is positive. PSP slim will be very important to Sony.
Moor-Angol
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The reason why Wii is not selling as latest weeks is simple :
no games, no sales
the last bunch of games arrived at the end of July / beginnin of August, then no significative game arrived till now (and it's over a month...) and no one will arrive till Mario Strikers Charged (and it will be over a month and a half...)
Usually October is the month with the lowest sales during the year, but for Wii i feel it will September, cause October line-up is more consistent (even if selling in the same day Gintama, Zak & Wiki, Ghost Squad and DDR is not properly wise)
no games, no sales
the last bunch of games arrived at the end of July / beginnin of August, then no significative game arrived till now (and it's over a month...) and no one will arrive till Mario Strikers Charged (and it will be over a month and a half...)
Usually October is the month with the lowest sales during the year, but for Wii i feel it will September, cause October line-up is more consistent (even if selling in the same day Gintama, Zak & Wiki, Ghost Squad and DDR is not properly wise)
Mithos Yggdrasill
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bcn-ron said:
I would not use the term "much improved" dude.
Thanks Kurosaki. Slow chart all round, but not unexpected for the time of year.
While there's no doubt in PS3's overall fate, it would have been helped if it was able to capitalise on this relative lull in Wii sales, but with a decline this week it's looking like things are dropping to a low level. PS3 has been in difficulty since its launch, but these troubles are only going to increase with the upcoming titles for Wii and they will push the system even further away from the mass market beast that was PS2. PS3's line-up for the rest of the year in Japan is weak so far, Sony desperately needs to announce some big releases before the year end at TGS, even if it's just to recapture some of the declining hardcore, but I'm not convinced they're in a position to do this.
Sony's big problem with PS3 is the nature of its development turns it into a lumbering giant. It is incapable of responding quickly to market changes. But saying that, Sony has demonstrated incredible incompetence not noticing the obvious shift in the Japanese market. Too much, 'if I don't acknowledge it it doesn't exist', :lol
Also, I expect FFVII:CC to be a big success, however, this isn't going to be much of an incentive for developers because having to invest 2-3 years and a home console budget to have a big hit when DS sw sales are so high (at home console levels for the first ever for a handheld), isn't logical.
PSP sw sales have been pitiful since its launch and this is something I doubt will ever change, even with the advent of the new model (barring a minor blip relatively speaking).
DQ is definitely going to ignite DS sales, and ASH might sell well, but I think Nintendo does need a new game, maybe they have something unnannounced planned.
As for Wii, I can't see much to worry about. Wii Fit, SMG, SBB are going to be huge and cover a wide audience, and most importantly have legs. I think these titles are going to add to Wii Sports and Wii Play, providing 5 system sellers, in the same way Animal Crossing and Mario Kart added to Nintendogs and Brain Training for DS. These titles could be in the charts for years.
While there's no doubt in PS3's overall fate, it would have been helped if it was able to capitalise on this relative lull in Wii sales, but with a decline this week it's looking like things are dropping to a low level. PS3 has been in difficulty since its launch, but these troubles are only going to increase with the upcoming titles for Wii and they will push the system even further away from the mass market beast that was PS2. PS3's line-up for the rest of the year in Japan is weak so far, Sony desperately needs to announce some big releases before the year end at TGS, even if it's just to recapture some of the declining hardcore, but I'm not convinced they're in a position to do this.
Sony's big problem with PS3 is the nature of its development turns it into a lumbering giant. It is incapable of responding quickly to market changes. But saying that, Sony has demonstrated incredible incompetence not noticing the obvious shift in the Japanese market. Too much, 'if I don't acknowledge it it doesn't exist', :lol
I'm expecting the PSP revision to sell well, but again, the huge problem for Sony is sw. As a device it is successful, but its audience is a hardcore one and seems to want big, home console experiences, as Sony anticipated, the problem is there aren't enough of these people around.donny2112 said:
Also, I expect FFVII:CC to be a big success, however, this isn't going to be much of an incentive for developers because having to invest 2-3 years and a home console budget to have a big hit when DS sw sales are so high (at home console levels for the first ever for a handheld), isn't logical.
PSP sw sales have been pitiful since its launch and this is something I doubt will ever change, even with the advent of the new model (barring a minor blip relatively speaking).
DQ is definitely going to ignite DS sales, and ASH might sell well, but I think Nintendo does need a new game, maybe they have something unnannounced planned.
As for Wii, I can't see much to worry about. Wii Fit, SMG, SBB are going to be huge and cover a wide audience, and most importantly have legs. I think these titles are going to add to Wii Sports and Wii Play, providing 5 system sellers, in the same way Animal Crossing and Mario Kart added to Nintendogs and Brain Training for DS. These titles could be in the charts for years.
DS and Wii definitely aren't supply constrained but their drops this week are the same as PS3 percentage wise, ~20%.Magicpaint said:
Mithos Yggdrasill
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ziran said:
Good analysis Ziran. Agreed completely. Facts are still facts after all.
MasterMFauli
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donny2112 said:
You would be suprised of how many people really think that way >_<
Mithos Yggdrasill
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bud said:
You're the best answer to the question: "who is really a Gaffer ?". :lol
bud said:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f64/donny2112/Sales Numbers/MCPosts-1.png
"These threads" are dropping just fine without the Wii's help, thank you very much.
Pureauthor
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Maybe if I wrote another chapter in my Media Create fanfic it would scare him off.
Pureauthor
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'A' Levels preparation. As it is, I might not be able to update at all until after Nov. 21. I wonder if anyone will still remember or care by then. :lol
Uh, let's not get carried away.
Uh, let's not get carried away.
Haunted
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now now, let's not overreact. We can't just nuke the place when there's a small problem, yes? It's not worth the sacrifice.Pureauthor said:
And bud's right anyway. When the worldwide megahit Too Human comes out very early next year, it's all over for the competition. There's nothing in the other companies' lineup that comes even close to Too Human.
Eteric Rice
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Hi guys, whats going on in here?
Eteric Rice
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Arde5643 said:
Ah, so same old stuff?