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HOLY FUCK AT PSP NUMBERS.
people forget that before the DS, hardware sales went down when there was a lull in big games coming out for that system. that the DS has in the past not seen that happen is still out of the ordinary.Magicpaint said:They're slumping, but it's nothing out of the ordinary. PS2 had similar numbers in this time of the year even at its early years.
DemDereNads said:Man... wish Square gave PSP a chance before putting the majority of ports/remakes on DS.
Oh well, guess that evasive FF7 port could always come out :O
Jonnyram said:Legit numbers:
DSL 67000
PSP 264000
PS2 13000
PS3 11000
Wii 27000
360 1800
1. Pokemon Dungeon 176000(760000)
2. CCFF7 133000(603000)
3. Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops+ 89000
4. Mario Strikers 33000
5. Hitman Reborn 25000
7. Corda 2 18000
9. MGS PO+ Deluxe Pack 15000
16. Sengoku Musou Katana 12000
27. Nanatsu Iro 7800
--. Burnout PS2 6200
--. Deltora Quest 3600
--. Burnout PSP 3100
--. R-Type Tactics 2900
--. Elemental Monsters 1600
--. Madden NFL 1300
--. Dinosaur Monsters 700
--. Zero Yon 600
--. Gatchapin 600
6. Mario Party 19000 (819000)
10. FF Crystal Chronicles 14000 (353000)
14. DS Housekeeping 13000 (207000)
24. PW3 8200 (125000)
25. Fate/tiger 8200 (61000)
26. MinGol5 7900 (322000)
30. Bladestorm 7400 (104000)
Yup.plagiarize said:people forget that before the DS, hardware sales went down when there was a lull in big games coming out for that system. that the DS has in the past not seen that happen is still out of the ordinary.
Magicpaint said:Yup.
Nintendo just didn't have anything big enough to carry the system through the really slow period (which is now). Wii Sports/Play and Mario Party 8 can only do so much.
I have no doubt that sales will dramatically pick up around/during the holidays when there are big titles + seasonal sales boost...
This may sound crazy, but I think that might be the plan. It makes sense, and I don't think it's too tinfoil-hat thinking to consider that a planned lull in games might allow Nintendo to catch up to pre-holiday demand in preparation for the madness to come. If I were Sony, I wouldn't even be pondering Wii numbers (or even DS numbers for that matter.) I would be hoping to get a huge PS3 boost through the holiday and try to maintain around 30,000 - 40,000 per week at least through March while simultaneously staggering PSP software releases to maintain some sense of continuity until the crowd accepts the handheld as more than a media device.Smiles and Cries said:well at least the Wii would be in stock since its selling low numbers now
Smiles and Cries said:When can we see Media Create threads back to normal - meaning OP posting charts and all that good stuff
its kinda sad because PSP could have finally had its own PAC-MAN chart
Well actually, PSP was in a strong and steady decline for over a month prior to the FF7CC PSP bump. (Moreso than Wii even, likely due to a combination of the slow period and anticipation of the PSP Slim.) This bump is indeed impressive, but I don't think many people expected it to be dead during the release of both a new version and one of it's biggest games since launch.DSXBoy said:I follow these Media Create threads weekly & I have noticed with alarm PSP sales have been rising steadily. Most posters including Myself expected the PSP to be dead now but look what's happened.
Jonnyram said:Legit numbers:
DSL 67000
PSP 264000
PS2 13000
PS3 11000
Wii 27000
360 1800
1. Pokemon Dungeon 176000(760000)
2. CCFF7 133000(603000)
3. Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops+ 89000
4. Mario Strikers 33000
5. Hitman Reborn 25000
7. Corda 2 18000
9. MGS PO+ Deluxe Pack 15000
16. Sengoku Musou Katana 12000
27. Nanatsu Iro 7800
--. Burnout PS2 6200
--. Deltora Quest 3600
--. Burnout PSP 3100
--. R-Type Tactics 2900
--. Elemental Monsters 1600
--. Madden NFL 1300
--. Dinosaur Monsters 700
--. Zero Yon 600
--. Gatchapin 600
6. Mario Party 19000 (819000)
10. FF Crystal Chronicles 14000 (353000)
14. DS Housekeeping 13000 (207000)
24. PW3 8200 (125000)
25. Fate/tiger 8200 (61000)
26. MinGol5 7900 (322000)
30. Bladestorm 7400 (104000)
Current JP lineups for the rest of the year...Loonz said:I really think that PSP S&L launch perfectly timed with FFVII: CC and the absence of any relevant new game are hurting the Wii in Japan right now. The DS maybe it's reaching to the saturation point, don't know, but with the incredible line up it has for this christmas I don't think it's going to suffer a lot in the near future.
Wii has 2 huge Mario games for that period, but perhaps that couldn't be enough. The lack of announcements for 2008 in the Japan market could be damaging the console more than we though... or just not enough content in this moment of time. I don't know.
EDIT: could be the new PSP & FFVII: CC the new "fad" that makes Wii "old"?
Cheesemeister said:When I get back from Japan. I'm in Okinawa right now.
Kurosaki Ichigo said:Hitman surprise, is it the X360 version?
The lists should fill out some still, especially for December (Mingol P2, Smash Brawl, SC Legends, etc).Laguna said:Wow @ jarrods list. DS owns anything.
Code Geass,Gurren Lagann,Cooking Mama 2,FFTA2,Mario Party and FFIV is more than enough to land a megaton blow to the PSP.Laguna said:Wow @ jarrods list. DS owns anything.
DSXBoy said:Nintendo has underestimated the power of Playstation. The price of NDS needs to be cut from 16800yen to 15000yen which is the price of DS Phat. More games are needed for Wii plus a black Wii console needs to be launched soon.
Congrats to Sony for bringing PSP back from the DEAD and kicking Nintendo's ASS in the process. Has Nintendo become arrogant???? I expect Iwata's response shortly
I think PS3 WE and DW could struggle. WE because it's available on PS2 and DW because that kind of gaming is continuing to decline. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see Nintendo release something big, like Wii Fit or SSBB, on Nov 22 to take the attention away from Sony as much as possible.Kurosaki Ichigo said:Well, MGS PO+ has done really, really well. Adding the original version numbers its really near 500k. I'm surprised that it has done >100k when we heard that 50k first day was like total soldout. Poor Crisis Core lost its small chances of hitting 1m with the legit data, I thought it'd pull stronger sales 2nd week with the impressive PSP new model sales. Not good starts for Strikers and Katana. Hitman surprise, is it the X360 version?
PS3 again very near 10k...and I don't see any title until November that can pull hardware sales. October is going to be long for PS3. 11/22 is the most important day for PS3 this year, you know, Winning Eleven 2008 and Shin Sangoku Musou 5, both million sellers on PS2, releasing on the same day on PS3 (WE also on PS2/360 that day, SSM5 on 360 too).
EDIT: oh wait hitman is an anime game for DS....:lol
I don't think PSP Slim has given the system much momentum in sw sales. It looks like it's primarily selling to existing PSP owners, which is expected with every revision to an extent.The lists should fill out some still, especially for December (Mingol P2, Smash Brawl, SC Legends, etc).
Overall DS does spank everything, but I'm a bit surprised at how weak the PSP Q4 follow up is (weaker than any of the consoles even imo)... I wonder if Sony didn't expect quite this much momentum out of the Slim and CC/PO+?
What with Zaidan Houjin Nippon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Koushiki Soft: 250-Mannin no KanKen coming out and all.Smiles and Cries said:damn these poor games
11.01 Opoona (Koei)
11.01 Ace Combat 6: Kaihou e no Senka (BNGI)
they sent them to die hard
So you turn a successful week for PSP into this? It is obvious that you are not happy with the PSP doing well.Defuser said:Code Geass,Gurren Lagann,Cooking Mama 2,FFTA2,Mario Party and FFIV is more than enough to land a megaton blow to the PSP.
LiquidMetal14 said:So you turn a successful week for PSP into this? It is obvious that you are not happy with the PSP doing well.
DavidDayton said:Do tell what this "Playstation philosophy" is. I'm all ears.
I agree with your predictionFrillen said:Today's m-create will have many new faces.
Let people enjoy PSP success.Vic said:I agree with your prediction
AniHawk said:What with Zaidan Houjin Nippon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Koushiki Soft: 250-Mannin no KanKen coming out and all.
AniHawk said:What with Zaidan Houjin Nippon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Koushiki Soft: 250-Mannin no KanKen coming out and all.
Smiles and Cries said:damn these poor games
11.01 Opoona (Koei)
11.01 Ace Combat 6: Kaihou e no Senka (BNGI)
they sent them to die hard
LiquidMetal14 said:Let people enjoy PSP success.
It's the 6th, I'll add it, thnx!Jonnyram said:Jarrod, your list is missing VF5 for 360. I think it's either 12/6 or 12/13. Can't remember right now.
fixedLiquidMetal14 said:Let people enjoy FF:CC success.
Defuser said:Code Geass,Gurren Lagann,Cooking Mama 2,FFTA2,Mario Party and FFIV is more than enough to land a megaton blow to the PSP.
Pureauthor said:Enjoy? Man, some of you have really personal stakes in the whole system wars thing, huh?
Not so certain about this remark. You're not shooting high enough I think.Laguna said:FF4 will sell best but FF3 level at best.
Lobster said:Not really..only Square, Namco and Capcom make money off the PSP.
is spwolf still about? i'm looking forwards to his 'take' on these numbers.speedpop said:Not so certain about this remark. You're not shooting high enough I think.
As for PSP, great to see it boost, but a shame to see the dismal release list for it till the end of the year a.k.a. zero quality software. Maybe it is true that Crisis Core was essentially it's last AAA game in the eyes of many.. I'm dismissing Kingdom Hearts because I dislike that series as a whole and won't go near Silent Hill.
Next M-C thread later will be interesting. Izzy was banned today, and Tabris is as well from what I am recalling (though that was quite a few days ago - SaitoH reckons it's permanent); two of the biggest vocal supporters and they won't be able to register a blip in a thread that they would most likely deem the true resurrection of PSP and proclaim it here to stay and win.
You forgot Atlus...ethelred said:What a coincidence... toss in Sega and those are the only companies that make money off the DS.
Jonnyram said:Legit numbers:
DSL 67000
PSP 264000
PS2 13000
PS3 11000
Wii 27000
360 1800
1. Pokemon Dungeon 176000(760000)
2. CCFF7 133000(603000)
3. Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops+ 89000
4. Mario Strikers 33000
5. Hitman Reborn 25000
7. Corda 2 18000
9. MGS PO+ Deluxe Pack 15000
16. Sengoku Musou Katana 12000
27. Nanatsu Iro 7800
--. Burnout PS2 6200
--. Deltora Quest 3600
--. Burnout PSP 3100
--. R-Type Tactics 2900
--. Elemental Monsters 1600
--. Madden NFL 1300
--. Dinosaur Monsters 700
--. Zero Yon 600
--. Gatchapin 600
6. Mario Party 19000 (819000)
10. FF Crystal Chronicles 14000 (353000)
14. DS Housekeeping 13000 (207000)
24. PW3 8200 (125000)
25. Fate/tiger 8200 (61000)
26. MinGol5 7900 (322000)
30. Bladestorm 7400 (104000)
Mithos Yggdrasill said:Wow at PSP. Just incredible. But lol at Pokémon that still sold more then CCFF7
Laguna said:FF4 will sell best but FF3 level at best