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Media Create Sales: Week 10, 2012 (Mar 05 - Mar 11)

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thestopsign

Member
I would be mildly surprised if Kid Icarus does over 100k in its first week. Really hard to gauge sales potential in this one considering all the positives it has going for it as of now. I would have easily singled it out as a definite flop a few months ago, but recent news is really making it hard to predict exact sales. That said, I think a lot of people are being a little overzealous with their predictions.
 
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Xellos

Member
Hope MGS3D did well enough to justify more MGS 3D ports. The 3D was amazing, and MGS1/2 probably would not have the same framerate/control issues that MGS3D did (thanks to their use of scripted cameras).
 
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timetokill

Banned
pramath said:
In spite of the massive push Nintendo is giving the title?
Aren't those predictions a bit too conservative?
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I thought 300k was kind of optimistic considering the franchise means basically nothing to the current market. It might as well be a new IP for most people, and it's not exactly the easiest game to explain/sell.

Anyway, we'll see. I'd love to be proven wrong. We'll see how mighty Nintendo's marketing muscle is, I guess.
 
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Elfteiroh

Member
timetokill said:
I thought 300k was kind of optimistic considering the franchise means basically nothing to the current market. It might as well be a new IP for most people, and it's not exactly the easiest game to explain/sell.

Anyway, we'll see. I'd love to be proven wrong. We'll see how mighty Nintendo's marketing muscle is, I guess.
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We must also take in consideration that Sakurai's game often take some time to gain steam (look at the first Smash Bros sales). So I think it will do moderately low first week sales, but it will have good legs. But only time will tell with this game. Really the Wildcard of this year.
 
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duckroll

Member
New Love Plus got a really, really negative reaction from fans because of various bugs and content shortcomings in the game. So much so that Konami actually apologized on the official site and they're promising to fix the problems.
 
E

electroplankton

Banned
duckroll said:
New Love Plus got a really, really negative reaction from fans because of various bugs and content shortcomings in the game. So much so that Konami actually apologized on the official site and they're promising to fix the problems.
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Do you see the release of a New Love Plus+ likely?
 
K

Kenka

Member
duckroll said:
New Love Plus got a really, really negative reaction from fans because of various bugs and content shortcomings in the game. So much so that Konami actually apologized on the official site and they're promising to fix the problems.
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Not smart from them. They are having a good shot at killing the franchise if a worthy contender approaches.
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Famitsu Sales: Week 10, 2012 (Feb 27 - Mar 04)

01./00. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.03.01} (¥8.190) - 627.214 / NEW
02./00. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.01} (¥4.800) - 46.357 / NEW
03./01. [3DS] Harvest Moon: The Land of Origin <SLG> (Marvelous AQL) {2012.02.23} (¥5.040) - 23.603 / 103.412 (-70%)
04./00. [PSP] Great Battle Full Blast # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.03.01} (¥6.280) - 23.531 / NEW
05./16. [3DS] Theatrhythm Final Fantasy <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.02.16} (¥6.090) - 21.237 / 99.041 (+139%)
06./07. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800) - 17.035 / 1.229.979 (-9%)
07./11. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 15.520 / 1.560.237 (+3%)
08./03. [PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm Generation <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.02.23} (¥7.330) - 15.395 / 83.767 (-77%)
09./08. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - 14.976 / 1.423.130 (-14%)
10./02. [PSP] Tales of the Heroes: Twin Brave # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.02.23} (¥6.280) - 13.965 / 92.726 (-82%)
11./00. [3DS] Doraemon: Nobita and the Island of Miracles <ETC> (FuRyu) {2012.03.01} (¥5.229) - 12.620 / NEW
12./15. [3DS] New Love Plus # <ETC> (Konami) {2012.02.14} (¥6.980) - 8.961 / 128.698 (+0%)
13./05. [PS3] Asura's Wrath <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.02.23} (¥6.990) - 8.829 / 43.720 (-75%)
14./00. [PS3] UFC Undisputed 3 <FTG> (Konami) {2012.03.01} (¥7.329) - 6.206 / NEW
15./21. [WII] Just Dance Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.13} (¥5.800) - 5.938 / 558.250 (-10%)
16./10. [PS3] Binary Domain <ACT> (Sega) {2012.02.16} (¥8.390) - 5.785 / 98.349 (-64%)
17./04. [PSP] I Don't Have Many Friends Portable # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.02.23} (¥6.800) - 5.659 / 59.170 (-89%)
18./19. [3DS] Resident Evil: Revelations <ADV> (Capcom) {2012.01.26} (¥5.990) - 5.409 / 242.614 (-27%)
19./00. [WII] Mario Kart Wii <RCE> (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} (¥5.800) - 4.779 / 3.463.027 (+7%)
20./18. [PSP] Samurai Warriors 3 Z Special <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.02.16} (¥6.090) - 4.775 / 31.328 (-39%)
21./28. [WII] Wii Sports Resort # <SPT> (Nintendo) {2009.06.25} (¥4.800) - 4.691 / 2.822.424 (+1%)
22./24. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (PSP the Best) <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.09.22} (¥2.990) - 4.598 / 207.021 (-10%)
23./22. [WII] Itadaki Street Wii <TBL> (Square Enix) {2011.12.01} (¥6.090) - 4.507 / 141.958 (-18%)
24./06. [PSP] Nendoroid Generation # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.02.23} (¥6.280) - 4.431 / 27.547 (-81%)
25./00. [WII] Wii Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2010.07.08} (¥4.800) - 4.420 / 2.224.618 (+3%)
26./29. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends <ETC> (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} (¥4.800) - 4.352 / 492.922 (-5%)
27./26. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 XL Edition <RCE> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2012.02.02} (¥4.980) - 4.186 / 49.936 (-16%)
28./00. [WII] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2011.12.08} (¥5.800) - 4.039 / 157.068
29./25. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine / Dark <RPG> (Level 5) {2011.12.15} (¥5.800) - 3.982 / 407.355 (-21%)
30./20. [PSP] Suikoden: Tsumugareshi Hyakunen no Toki <RPG> (Konami) {2012.02.09} (¥5.980) - 3.509 / 82.435 (-49%)

Top 30

3DS - 11
PSP - 7
PS3 - 6
WII - 6

SOFTWARE
Code: 
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |
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|  PS3  |      61,7% |      27,0% |      15,2% |
|  3DS  |      17,7% |      24,5% |      18,6% |
|  PSP  |       9,8% |      30,9% |      44,9% |
|  WII  |       5,4% |       7,6% |       7,2% |
|  NDS  |       3,1% |       4,7% |      12,3% |
|  PSV  |       1,5% |       3,0% |       0,0% |
|  360  |       0,8% |       2,0% |       1,5% |
|  OTH  |       0,1% |       0,1% |       0,1% |
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HARDWARE
Code: 
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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|  3DS  |     71.797 |     72.032 |    206.087 |  1.084.046 |    577.413 |   5.219.785 |
|  PS3  |     65.249 |     24.476 |     22.736 |    367.557 |    314.923 |   7.784.705 |
| PSP # |     16.375 |     15.876 |     65.535 |    265.334 |    491.228 |  18.502.442 |
|  PSV  |     10.212 |     10.511 |            |    184.591 |            |     587.385 |
|  WII  |      7.046 |      6.578 |     11.031 |    147.744 |    276.127 |  12.315.487 |
|  360  |        737 |      1.244 |      2.359 |     12.558 |     37.674 |   1.533.296 |
| NDS # |        623 |        738 |     18.100 |     11.491 |    425.349 |  32.847.974 |
|  PS2  |        551 |        488 |      1.278 |      5.189 |     15.378 |  21.959.480 |
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|  ALL  |    172.590 |    131.943 |    327.126 |  2.078.510 |  2.138.092 | 100.750.554 |
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|  DSi  |        623 |        738 |     17.420 |     11.491 |    407.894 |   8.257.670 |
|  PSP  |     16.375 |     15.876 |     64.632 |    265.334 |    478.152 |  18.341.867 |
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A

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Femmeworth said:
Except Level-5.
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I don't think so.
Layton was declining since the DS, but was still able to sell more thatn 350K as launch title. Inauzma met the 400K expected, and they just announced the fifth episode (with also manga and anime, so it seems that this brand is still very strong in their portfolio) and now they are trying to expand (with a silly move, maybe...) also the Cardboard Senki franchise to the 3DS audience.

Girls rpg debuted bad, I agree.
 
D

duckroll

Member
electroplankton said:
Do you see the release of a New Love Plus+ likely?
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I think Konami has a lot more to worry about before they even consider that.

https://twitter.com/#!/sofmap_tenjin/status/180190915338571776

The Sofmap at Tenjin made a tweet that instructions from Konami are that all New Love Plus sales are to be suspended. They have no idea how long it will be before sales can resume, but it looks like Konami is pulling copies off the shelf literally, until they can fix the problem and prevent further damage to the brand.

Konami's apology about how fucked up New Love Plus is: http://www.konami.jp/osirase/newloveplus/

Konami's apology about the delay in patching the Love Plus Tools eShop app: http://www.konami.jp/osirase/loveplustools/

Both still have no dates for the fixes. I think Konami might have dug this franchise a grave.
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
duckroll said:
I think Konami has a lot more to worry about before they even consider that.

https://twitter.com/#!/sofmap_tenjin/status/180190915338571776

The Sofmap at Tenjin made a tweet that instructions from Konami are that all New Love Plus sales are to be suspended. They have no idea how long it will be before sales can resume, but it looks like Konami is pulling copies off the shelf literally, until they can fix the problem and prevent further damage to the brand.

Konami's apology about how fucked up New Love Plus is: http://www.konami.jp/osirase/newloveplus/

Konami's apology about the delay in patching the Love Plus Tools eShop app: http://www.konami.jp/osirase/loveplustools/

Both still have no dates for the fixes. I think Konami might have dug this franchise a grave.
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And again, Konami distinguished itself for its outstanding ability in managing brands outside MGS!!!
 
K

Kenka

Member
By the way, is there much difference between a series like Love Plus and "If I was Sealed in a Room with a Girl I would XXX" ? What makes the two distinct, gameplay-wise. From my limited point of view, they are both dating simulations.
 
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duckroll

Member
Mpl90 said:
And again, Konami distinguished itself for its outstanding ability in managing brands outside MGS!!!
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Are they really good with managing the MGS brand lately?

Kenka said:
By the way, is there much difference between a series like Love Plus and "If I was Sealed in a Room with a Girl I would XXX" ? What makes the two distinct, gameplay-wise. From my limited point of view, they are both dating simulations.
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The difference is you're not in a sealed room in Love Plus. :p
 
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michaelius

Banned
frostbyte said:
Of course it's not going to be instantly successful. But Nintendo is trying to push this the hardest they can to make this popular. As I said they've bought the 40/40, hired famous composers, and also attached Sakurai's name to this. People are going to buy this on the basis of being 'by the director of SSB Brawl' and having a similar chaotic multiplayer mode.
Nintendo've also used Nintendo Direct to promote this game even further worldwide. If all this advertising and hype doesn't translate to higher sales, I'll be surprised.
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It doesn't have Mario/Zelda/Pokemon in title - anything above 100k will be suprising.
 
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electroplankton

Banned
duckroll said:
I think Konami has a lot more to worry about before they even consider that.

https://twitter.com/#!/sofmap_tenjin/status/180190915338571776

The Sofmap at Tenjin made a tweet that instructions from Konami are that all New Love Plus sales are to be suspended. They have no idea how long it will be before sales can resume, but it looks like Konami is pulling copies off the shelf literally, until they can fix the problem and prevent further damage to the brand.

Konami's apology about how fucked up New Love Plus is: http://www.konami.jp/osirase/newloveplus/

Konami's apology about the delay in patching the Love Plus Tools eShop app: http://www.konami.jp/osirase/loveplustools/

Both still have no dates for the fixes. I think Konami might have dug this franchise a grave.
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This is really a problem, man.
Konami found a new successful datin-sim after Tokimeki Memorial declined, the first one on DS sold almost 300k.
 
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Endo Punk

Member
I want to get Vita but I want strong Japanese support. If these sales continue then I see many jumping ship and shifting projects.
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
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lunchwithyuzo

Banned
Hero of Legend said:
Oh, cool! I'm certainly not against this.

Anyone mind posting the chronological order of the series? I guess PW is after MGS3?
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For the canon Metal Gear storyline it goes:

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker
Metal Gear
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake
Metal Gear Solid / Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance

And then there are non-continuity entries:

Snake's Revenge
Metal Gear: Ghost Babel
Metal Gear AC!D
Metal Gear AC!D 2
 
SmokedMeat

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
thestopsign said:
I would be mildly surprised if Kid Icarus does over 100k in its first week. Really hard to gauge sales potential in this one considering all the positives it has going for it as of now. I would have easily singled it out as a definite flop a few months ago, but recent news is really making it hard to predict exact sales. That said, I think a lot of people are being a little overzealous with their predictions.
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I think it's going to be a much bigger hit in the west. It looks to be a great game, and Nintendo is pushing it very well, but I don't think it's the kind of game most Japanese gamers are interested in, nor do I think they'll care for the main character.
 
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frankie_baby

Member
ShinUltramanJ said:
I think it's going to be a much bigger hit in the west. It looks to be a great game, and Nintendo is pushing it very well, but I don't think it's the kind of game most Japanese gamers are interested in, nor do I think they'll care for the main character.
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if the word of mouth is good i'm thinking it'll do very well in japan its the west im more worried about
 
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Lausebub

Banned
3DS sold 2k less than last week. Can we expect a rise in sales next week? There is Kid Icaurs coming out, as well as a new color and two new bundles.
 
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JoshuaJSlone

Member
Chris1964 said:
Since I'm bored to multiply famitsu percentage will Media Create totals these are the sales in Famitsu top 30 until the week before One Piece for 2012 {2011.12.26 - 2012.02.26}

3DS: 2.144.695
PS3: 977.623
PSP: 686.044
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Before seeing you did this, I was looking at the same period using data from the Famitsu Top 30:

PSP: 16 new releases, 610K software sold
3DS: 10 new releases, 920K software sold aside from the 840K from SM3DL/MK7/MH3G
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

Member
Chris1964 said:
This is a very realistic scenario. The problem last year weren't mid and low sellers but top sellers. Barely 3 games sold 1 million. We know 2 multimillion sellers already that give a big advantage, not counting the increased numbers of games that will just sell 1 million.
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Yes, last year we only had 3 million-seller titles if we count Monster Hunter 3G, and only 9 more games managed to sell over 500,000 units.


So far this year will probably have:

3 million

[NDS] Pokémon Black and White 2

1 million

[3DS] Mario Kart 7
[3DS] Super Mario 3D Land
[3DS] New Mario 2D
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry no Wonderland 3D
[Wii] Mario Party 9

Over 500,000

[PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors
[PS3] Resident Evil 6
[3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance
[3DS] Mario Tennis Open

Other titles with no release date that could also be big:

[3DS] Tomodachi Collection (+500k)
[3DS] Brain Age 3DS (+500k)
[3DS] Animal Crossing (1 million if it is released a month before Christmas, a Mario 2D + Animal Crossing looks like a mighty combo)
[3DS] Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney (+500k, will it be released this year? Level 5 needs a big game and Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Chrono Stone won't be enough)
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (Nah, it will be a 2013 title)
[3DS] Luigi's Mansion 2 (Wildcard, +500k)
[3DS] Paper Mario (+500k)
[Wii] Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku (Will it be released this year?)

Have I overlooked anything?
 
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muu

Member
Kenka said:
By the way, is there much difference between a series like Love Plus and "If I was Sealed in a Room with a Girl I would XXX" ? What makes the two distinct, gameplay-wise. From my limited point of view, they are both dating simulations.
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1) "If I was Sealed in a..." is a room escape game with girls in it. Since I dont have the game yet I can't say which is the main focus.

2) Love Plus is what you'd call a "dating sim." Level up your character's likability, use stat points to boost dates. There's actually not a whole lot of interaction between you and the girls onscreen, similar to Tokimeki Memorial series. Users are basically left to 'fill in the blanks.' Probably best for true role-players that can flesh out details out of dice rolls and such.

The funny thing is that neither are like 'dating sims' in the current sense. Most of those 'dating sims' which you also see labeled as Adventure are nothing more than Choose Your Own Adventures with insane amounts of dialogue. Very few developers go beyond this (in the PC realm), as the main appeal of these games is that it takes little more than a few artists, writer, event scripter and a few guys advertising to get a game published. In terms of sales it'll be interesting to see where these types of games seek refuge after the inevitable decline of the PSP (though that probably won't happen in earnest w/ these types of games till early 2014 at the earliest, considering how long they hanged on to PS2 until finally moving into PSP).
 
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