It was a DVD player, had all 3rd party support and way less competition than systems nowadays - home consoles are competing with way more popular handhelds and smartphones for leisure time and support right now.
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Media Create Sales: Week 14, 2014 (Mar 31 - Apr 06)
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It was a DVD player, had all 3rd party support and way less competition than systems nowadays - home consoles are competing with way more popular handhelds and smartphones for leisure time and support right now.
It played DVD movies and Playstation 1 games.
Well, situation was quite different.
PS2 : launched way before the next Nintendo system, follow-up to the PS1 which was really sucessful with both players and 3rd-party publishers, and lots of game coming... and consoles not dead yet. + DVD playback, which was a big thing back in the days (even though it sucked on the PS2).
Compare that to the Wii U : first to launch, but 0 3rd party support, very bleak future even in 2012, few games announced (even for Nintendo).
And PS4 : launched 1 years after the Wii U, which is struggling, market moved to handhelds and mobile, 3rd-party support should be there but... very few games have been announced (3 games since TGS 13?), and western-focused console. Oh, and the PS3 is still getting lots of games, so yeah.
It's not THAT surprising the PS2 sold as much as it did, as players expectations were pretty high back then. My guess is, both the PS3 and Wii U launch dampened those expectations, which is why PS4 is getting such slow sales.
Moor-Angol
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especially this one
Moor-Angol
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I was talking about game released
I did not mention before, but also Saturn had a slow start, and we are talking about a platform which had more than 1000 released games in just 4 years
michaelius
Banned
No numbers yet ?
KillerMan91
Member
35 minutes.
DST.... so still 35mn to go (unless you were asking for some Gibson leaks... but we didn't get any this week).
tilinelson2
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My God, did you need all that to show that you weren't capable of understanding what I said?
michaelius
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To me the issue isn't that the PS4 doesn't have new games releasing now, but that it doesn't have a strong line-up announced for the future as so far there has been zero change on that front.
The 3DS did (relatively speaking) all right despite a lack of games because it was immediately apparent it was going to be the dominant receiver of support.
None of the failures to follow it have shown that.
The 3DS did (relatively speaking) all right despite a lack of games because it was immediately apparent it was going to be the dominant receiver of support.
None of the failures to follow it have shown that.
Exactly. I keep thinking about Enterbrain's big boss and his "oh, there's lots of secrets PS4 games being worked on! ["secret PS4 games has become a new meme, imo] You'll be surprised at how fast 3rd-parties are switching to the PS4!".
Well... we're certainly not witnessing that at all, to be honest. I think TGS14 will be a big test...
At the moment, PS4 kinda looks like the Vita after launch : rather good start, but sales started tanking real fast, while 3rd-parties were still busy with the PSP. I have no reason to believe publishers aren't gonna move to PS4 at one point (not like they got many options for the home console market
), but they're certainly taking their sweet sweet time.And in the mean time, and the home console market in Japan just keep on shriking like there's no tomorrow.
Crap forgot about change of time few weeks ago
That happened to me the first two weeks after the hour changed in Spain too. Media Create numbers were posted at 14.00 before. Since March 21st they're posted at 15.00
Which other countries change the hour in order to lower energetic consumption?
On-topic: Instead of a list of games already released, it'd be more interesting to see a "games announced" list. I mean "real announcements", no the "yes, I guess we'll go to the PS4 sometime in the next 3 years." we've seen so far.
Phoenician_Viking
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Vita is not dominant but it was considered dead, and now is getting plenty of support.
There's a few big titles that are carried over from the PSP (Persona, God Eater), but some of the big ones have left (Final Fantasy, Metal Gear). Aside from that, you have a lot of niche support that is selling largely to the existing audience and are themselves not really drawing new people to buy the platform, which I think is the topic here.
michaelius
Banned
Most of Europe does
test_account
XP-39C²
Vita is up year over year, so the newer games must have some draw, getting newer users in. But hes right about increased support. I remember back in the early Vita days, seeing comments like "what games?" when people talked about that Vita needed more games and such. I also remember seeing some comments/questions if even niche developers were moving away from the Vita.
ATXAlchemy
Member
You add just Super in front of Robot, and that pretty much what everyone in Japan calls it.
DaSorcerer7
Member
Not looking good...
.....Meh. Whatever.Champagne this week!
Is this Media Create?
Fucking Media Create.
Heh it does have an odd name. Translated, I think it's "The 3rd Super Robot Wars Z: Time-Space Purgatory".
3DS is mad low. Now's definitely the time to announce the 2DS in Japan (even if I'm not convinced it'll really do much) and drop the price for all consoles across the board.
Black Republican
Member
looks like no one's winning april mediacreate prediction
michaelius
Banned
Wow total apathy of the market.
At least #champion is still going strong.
Also worst 3DS number since price drop IIRC
At least #champion is still going strong.
Also worst 3DS number since price drop IIRC
and when was the last system with over 1000 released games in 4 years after Saturn? Those days are over.
not really. depending on how you define new users. PSV+PSP are down YOY.
bigmit3737
Member
Wow 3DS is doing Vita numbers.
Software is selling well , and I think Smash should push some numbers.
Software is selling well , and I think Smash should push some numbers.
ATXAlchemy
Member
Time Hell would be better. Or simply Hell.
It's better left untranslated, unless you wanna push it, because it is a "pun" with no equivalent in english that'd sound as awesome.
Who are you, and what have you done with SmokyDave?
You know that thing where you're really excited and you pretend you're not really excited?
I'm doing that thing. Can't let my fingers loose today.
Those are some grim numbers. Japanese games market has truly transformed. It is still HUGE market (11 Billion a year), but Smartphones alone (not all of mobile, just smartphones) is half of that at 5.4 Billion, poised for a strong growth for the foreseeable future:
http://www.serkantoto.com/2014/03/25/japan-smartphone-mobile-game-market/
So Japanese are still spending vast amounts of money in games, it's just that their focus have shifted radically. Plenty of money to be made, just not in console games (at the moment).
http://www.serkantoto.com/2014/03/25/japan-smartphone-mobile-game-market/
So Japanese are still spending vast amounts of money in games, it's just that their focus have shifted radically. Plenty of money to be made, just not in console games (at the moment).
BishopLamont
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Not this fast.