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Media Create Sales: Week 34, 2013 (Aug 19 - Aug 25)
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In relative terms maybe.
they went with 3d animations
maybe the ds audience that bought the first also had a psp. maybe the ds audience that bought the first eventually bought a psp once it was clearly the ps2's successor. maybe the audience got sick of the platform changes from entry to entry.
clay_ghost
Member
Have not visted these thread for some time but :-o vita and wiiu numbers are so bad. Also, poor 101.....
Katana_Strikes
Member
Seems like people have 0 confidence in the system. It has virtually no point. It's not getting any new games outside of Nintendo stuff, so if anyone was going to own a Wii U in Japan, my guess it's only the super hardcore Nintendo gamers. Everyone else is served properly with games and announcements of upcoming games. What has the Wii U got? Basically nothing. After TGS last year, it should have been clear that the Wii U was all but doomed in Japan. Not saying it's gonna pick up, but at this point it's gonna take a miracle of massive proportions to get people actually care about buying games for it. At least Gamecube owners actually wanted to play stuff.
Takamura-San
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Making bomb after bomb doesn't help them get contract to make games too. Why should i fund a platinum game when the ROI is basically negative?
Mhm, but what other options are left? Hiring more people for more effective development?
I don't think Nintendo is doomed, but the Wii U itself is doomed - I just can't understand how they make mistake after mistake; did the Wii really destroy their perception of the gaming landscape or what
Spieler Eins
Member
Still bombed outside of Japan. And it isnt a Kamiya game.
The sad thing is: it will sell this
many units in the rest of the world
Does this count as 4 or 5 units?
metalslimer
Member
Oh and wiiu should have crossed streams with the ps3 this week. Vita did to horribly last fall for that to happen but maybe during the drought next year
I don't think first party is the problem here, they've been releasing a game a month since Wario if I'm not mistaken and they'll do so until the end of the year. the problem is 3rd party releases because a game a month isn't enough and it's impossible for them to keep up that pace for long. Baring a miracle, I don't see anything making non-indie 3rd parties climb onboard, there's very little hope for Wii U in my opinion.
Well, drops across the board. Wasn't last week some kind of holiday or festival or something?
I think if Nintendo give a toss. Start showing it off now and it will probably help out. Leave it 'til two weeks before launch and it'll be doomed.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
You should more worried about those hardware numbers across all platforms rather than an unpopular game in an unpopular system. 3DS will essentially be the only major console in Japan barring a TGS surprise.
metalslimer
Member
Game and Wario, Pikmin 3, NSLU.....er even then these aren't the type of games wiiu needs from nintendo. There certainly is a 1st party problem
Relaxed Muscle
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Bah, a Nintendo Direct 2 weeks before launching your game is the best way to promote it dude. You just don't understand.
Also Kamiya said it's there most expansive game yet, financially it's a failure of Mount Everest size. Good thing it was Nintendo funded, or I'm wrong?
not a big seller. it did 206k (plus 22k with the rerelease) on the ps3. it hit about 195k on the 360 in america.
doing worse, the same, or simply slightly better than w101 will take effort on nintendo's part.
Yes, that's the main reason for the drop. Next week it will do better.
ArchedThunder
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I've never experienced such an insane discrepancy between quality of game and numer of sales as is the case for poor W101.
I hope it at least finds some love amongst gaffers and lives on as a legendary underperformer in the enlightened cult
I hope it at least finds some love amongst gaffers and lives on as a legendary underperformer in the enlightened cult
Takamura-San
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There was a reason why other publishers didn't want to fund Bayo2.
I believe that nintendo funded bayo 2 to build cred, not move units.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Directs only help at reaching fans who are already interested in Nintendo products to begin with. They should be a complement to traditional marketing.
Not like TW101 had much in its favour, though. It's a very confusing concept that I believe would be better suited for 3DS anyway.
NCL is after 3DS profit at the mo, so effort goes into that instead of steering the WiiU boat.
That1BlackGuy
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I honestly expect Bayonetta 2 to do worse than its predecessor, regardless of its (sure to be) quality.
It's only a cautionary tale against releasing your new IP on the Wii U.
The only excuse that remotely has merit is 'marketing', and even then I struggle to believe that there are only 5-6000 Japanese Wii U owners that are 'hardcore' gamers. Most hardcore gamers don't need an extensive marketing campaign to know when a game is being released, just an internet connection.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Is it a coincidence that there two biggest flops are exclusive to Nintendo home consoles?
Or they didn't find it fun. A lot of people do not find hard games fun.
No not really. Different people like to play different games and if it brings enjoyment to them then why not. Theres no decisive line between a "top" game or "bottom" game. Some people may see Conception as a bottom game yet I am sure there are fans that will buy a sequel.
Also the W101 will not discourage pubs from greenlighting fighting games. Just look at Platinums best selling game. W101 was just a badly marketed , unappealing game on a console thats struggling to do 10k a week.
They should be working double time to get Pokemon spinoffs on Wii U once X&Y launch. Animal Crossing Plaza also makes me think they've already got the groundwork laid for that. Yeah, right now Wii U's not looking too hot from a commercal perspective, as much I like the upcoming lineup plus Pikmin, NSLU, and W101.
And again the decision to not make this a Nintendo All-Stars property was a mistake.
i was unclear. i meant that bayo 2 will probably sell better in japan than america, like the first game did. sex appeal works in america, but it REALLY works in japan.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
There's bomb and there's a megabomb.
This is a megabomb. It shipped like 30k (a very low shipment already) and it sold like the 19%-20% of that.
.I've never experienced such an insane discrepancy between quality of game and numer of sales as is the case for poor W101.
I hope it at least finds some love amongst gaffers and lives on as a legendary underperformer in the enlightened cult
It's first party's problem because out of all the factors affecting the WiiU, the first party is the only stakeholder who actually cares for the WiiU to succeed. It doesn't matter if they release 1 game a month if no one wants those games, or if that isn't enough to sustain the WiiU. If it's not working then they're not doing enough. They're not going to change the minds of third parties at this point, so if Nintendo wants to keep the platform afloat, it's entirely on them, anyone else in the equation would be fine with the WiiU just being discontinued, so its definitely not -their- problem.
That's the reality as I see it. If Nintendo doesn't think they can support the system all by themselves, then they have to face the facts and cut their losses. If they think they can, then they have to prove it.
Will definitely be interesting to see how that one sells.
Nintendo seems to be quite happy with P*.
That being said, P* future looks kinda bleak now. Konami will still prolly contract them for MGR. I doubt SEGA will come back to them though.
I've never experienced such an insane discrepancy between quality of game and numer of sales as is the case for poor W101.
I hope it at least finds some love amongst gaffers and lives on as a legendary underperformer in the enlightened cult
This.