How popular are we talking here ?
Just popular or - expect Lines at stores popular ?
Best week for PS4 after the first month launch.
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Media Create Sales: Week 35, 2014 (Aug 25 - Aug 31)
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Best week for PS4 after the first month launch.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I see. Well there goes my interest.
The white PS4 launches with Destiny doesn't it? I'm expecting a good bump.
Because they were released at different dates and the differences are worth doubledipping for many people, I'd say. In the New 3DS case, both models are releasing at the same time so you shouldn't expect that same pattern.
I think the comparision is perfectly fine.
I don't think New3DS standard + LL are going to sell 10 million units combined, though. 3DS sales are already declining and I don't think the upgrades are as important as Color/Wi-Fi were for the Gameboy or the DS.
Nightengale
Member
The Neo-Romance announcement, from what I could tell, wasn't really an announcement of a new game, but rather simply an announcement that the label/franchise/brand is migrating over to Vita.
Neo-Romance is the otome-game brand/label of Tecmo-Koei that covers a range of IPs/franchises, such as:
- La Corda' D'Oro
- Angelique
- Hanakanaru Toki no Naka De
- Love Summit
- Flower of the World
Each franchise has its own setting (La Corda is Musical School), (Harukaranu is Ancient Japan meets fantasy ), and each franchise has multiple releases/games within that particular setting/universe.
The Neoromance brand has been around for a long time, with games in many platforms from PS1, PS2, DS, and it appears that it's found its home on the PSP, where it's apparently the best platform for such games to date. A lot of otome games release exclusively on PSP, etc.
This announcement doesn't seem to be for any game, but rather a commitment/promise that they'll migrate future Neo-Romance games (Harukanaru 6, new La Corda, Angelique, new Neoromance IP or whatever ) onto Vita instead of keeping it on the PSP as they're currently doing.
And since Uta no Prince is moving over to Vita anyway, might as well follow suit since Uta no Prince-sama is pretty much the Monster Hunter of otome games.
They're different SKUs, just like the nu3DS will be? Dunno, I don't think the market will see it as a completely new console.
Using this logic there are 4+ versions of PS3.
Ah I see. Thank you. I think I'll pare this list down a bit then.
I'm going to remove Touhou until they announce a specific game, Neoromance will stay off until the same, and I'll remove Deemo because I noticed that Rayark is a Taiwanese dev, at least according to Wikipedia.
Since you're correcting things on the list, Derby Stallion Gold is retail, not an eShop exclusive.
Thanks, didn't realize. It will be a tad before these changes go through as I'm still at work.
If anyone sees anything else wrong, feel free to mention.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
But the thing I don't get is whether the streaming is just crappy on "bad" internet connections or just in general. If it's just crappy in general, then it would seem Square Enix had screwed up imo.
Also apparently that Fujiko game has got a release date
Fujiko · F · Characters Funiyu large set! SF Slapstick Party! coming to Wii U/Nintendo 3DS in Japan - 11/20.
Never seems to be the case with the Wii U though =(. Apart from Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, the Wii U only got Hyrule Warriors right? I understand that it sells on the PS3, so they expect it to sell on the PS4, but I never feel like they give the Wii U versions a chance (clearly it sold better on PS3 than Wii though).
small44
Member
first day sellthrough {2014.09.04}
[3DS] Gaist Crusher: God - 15%
[3DS] Dragon Quest X Online - 80%
[PS4] Samurai Warriors 4 - 30-40%
[XB1] Hardware
Where is xb1 hardware first day sellthrough ?
What´s the point? This would be the equivalent to splitting PS3s hardware sales into PS3 fat, PS3 slim and PS3 superslim.
Right there
There is no way n3DS tops 10 million. 4DS will be out holidays 2016 the later.
Well I didn't bring it up myself, all I said is that it's unlikely
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Um the image doesn't load for me. Unless the XB1 hardware sellthrough is actually meant to be 0%?
Oh, I was only speaking to counting 3DS and 3DS XL separately. Sorry, maybe I quoted the wrong person?
Thanks .
I´m talking about your 3DS and 3DSXL split specifically. Anyway when talking about userbase you make a game for it is useless to differentiate between a 3DS and 3DS with a slightly bigger screen, that´s the first time I see such a thing in this context and looks more like a deviation than a genuine argument.
About new3DS and PS3 userbase. I think it is a safe bet to say that new 3DSs lifetime sales in Japan will be close enough considering the likely very short lifecycle but this is very dependent on the actual announcement and release of Nintendos next gen system, if it launches too early it´s obvious that it will negatively affect the comparison. Also about viability, PS3 is already in its last legs and by then the actual relevant active userbase will look worse anywway.
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MasterSheen
Member
To sell 10 million units by 2017 means the n3DS/XL will have to sell almost exactly what 3DS/XL sold between 2011-2012. I can't see that being anything short of impossible.
test_account
XP-39C²
Hes just referring to that DQX for 3DS wont have any "dark numbers" because its only available at retail. What Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki shows, that accounts for 100% of the sales. Games that also have digital sales, there we are in the dark until we get some extra info on 100% of the sales.
He was probably just referring to what a new version would do. The New 3DS is a more advance upgrade compared to the 3DS XL though, but both are/were new models. It would be fair to compare the four PS3 models to eachother too if i'd say if you wanted to see which revision/model that sold the most.sörine;128636099 said:
frankie_baby
Member
I'd be shocked if it doesn't outsell those
About what dark numbers are you talking about? Famitsu releases digital numbers every month. If they aren´t listed they simply aren´t noteworthy.
The comparison was nonsense since the post he answered to was talking about viability of PS3 compared to new3DS (exclusives). Simple form factors are irrelevant in this case.
small44
Member
There is not percentage is it mean it's less then 10% or there is no informations about it?
Capcom released "Monster Hunter Frontier G: Beginner's Package" at retail. That product does not exist on PSN. As I said earlier, MHFG's client is free to download on PS3 and Vita. Famitsu has yet to track free downloads on their monthly chart. As it is only available through a retail release, everyone playing DQX on 3DS will be represented through the sales reports. That's not the case for MHFG.
I don't think anyone expected MHFG on Vita to outsell DQX on 3DS. It seems to be the less popular game on a considerably less popular platform. Personally, I didn't think MHFG on Vita could even hit 5 digits after the Wii U release of the game. A very late port of a subscription MMO on a handheld is not something I thought anyone would want.
Sure, Dragon Quest X does go against what made Dragon Quest successful. I never implied otherwise. No one is expecting Dragon Quest X to sell millions on any platform. I'm arguing against your bizarre attempt to link the success of Monster Hunter on handhelds to how Frontier should perform on a handheld. Here's the part of the conversation I disagree with:
You're saying that Frontier's failure on consoles should be ignored because now it's on a handheld and that's where the mothership is popular. You would kind of have a point ... if Frontier wasn't seven years old and didn't go against what made those handheld games so successful in the first place.
Yeah, Monster Hunter did have a subscription fee on PS2 and Wii. Unless you're Ben Heck, those were home consoles. If Capcom launched Monster Hunter Portable with multiplayer behind a paywall, I think that property would still be hanging out with the likes of Auto Modellista and Resident Evil: Outbreak.
As a consumer, I agree. I can at least sell MHFG's cartridge, though I'm not sure how much value that would hold.
That doesn't change the fact that you have one way to play DQX on 3DS.
If Nintendo can sell 10m n3DS+n3DSLL in Japan, we'd be looking at another DS sized phenomenon. That seems unlikely.
Nintendojitsu
Banned
Genuine hype > manufactured hype every time. This is why I believe Smash Bros 3DS will outsell Destiny for the month.
Nightengale
Member
lol whut.
No one, even in their wildest dreams will even think of a scenario where Smash Bros 3DS don't outsell Destiny.
Nothing1016
Member
In Japan yeah. But it doesn't launch till October in the rest of the world so we wil have to wait and see.
PdotMichael
Banned
What a random post.
Does anyone actually believe Destiny will outsell Smash Bros in Japan? Honest question.
Now if you're talking about worldwide, which is unlikely, that's delusional.
shooters do decent numbers in Japan.
It will sell, but it won't light the market on fire.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
its not unlikely. Its impossible that Smash will outsell Destiny worldwide lol
In the direct they showed that downloads from the eShop are faster on the New 3DS. The net connection should in in fact be more robust on it and will benefit existing titles using online play.
At the same time none of the reviews say it's a bad game, just that the 3DS version is inferior to other versions. So you can also read them as recommendations for those.
One of the problems with adoption of new hardware in Japan is that a lot of people think their old one (PS3, Wii, 3DS) is still sufficient. They're waiting for it to break so they have a reason to upgrade.
What the 3DS DQX version painstakenly shows is that old hardware isn't always sufficient. For DQX you get much better experiences on Wii U and PC than on 3DS and Wii.
test_account
XP-39C²
Sure, i know, that is why i said "until we get some extra info" =) Famitsu doesnt track games that are free, from what i know. Maybe some of the numbers are small indeed, but if we dont know about it, we dont know exactly how much it sold. Those are the dark numbers i was referring to, if we get no extra info on the total number of downloads/sales. If a product only exist at retail, its easier to know how much it sold.
Well, i'm sure that he was just referring to the selling power of new models, and that is where the comparison came in, which makes sense to me personally. The 3DS XL brought bigger screens by the way, so its not just about form factor (when i think of form factor, i'm mostly thinking about the design aesthetics at least). But i agree that the sales potential for the New 3DS is much bigger compared to the 3DS XL.
Eolz
Member
I wouldn't say it's impossible LTD. This year though, impossible yeah.
Well, he said "for the month", and I based on that, but honestly I don't think Destiny will outsell Smash even LTD.
Pennywise83
Banned
How do MMORPGs run on smartphones? Honest question.
The 3DS is stagnating and experiencing harsh drops from last year. No way is a slight power upgrade and a niche JRPG going to sell 10m+ HW. Heavy hitter 3DS games like Pokemon OR/AS and Smash will all be on the old 3DS giving the mass market less reason to upgrade. DQXI will most likely be on the 3DS but I'm sure it will be on all versions of the system.
http://www.konami.jp/we/2015/
Winning Eleven 15 comes out on November 13th. PS4/PS3/One.
There are no news about 3DS and / or PSP versions so far which sounds...strange after seeing how Blue Samurai sold on 3DS.
Winning Eleven 15 comes out on November 13th. PS4/PS3/One.
There are no news about 3DS and / or PSP versions so far which sounds...strange after seeing how Blue Samurai sold on 3DS.
Pennywise83
Banned
10m units is obviously unlikely, but the New 3DS is going to push 3DS sales above 20m, which would be a great result.
Bruno MB
Member
New 3DS will stop another yearly 40-50% decline and put its total lifetime sales comfortably over 20 million units, but that's all. With this patch Nintendo is simply buying time, they aren't capable of launching the true 3DS successor by next year. The problem I see is that I'm not too sure if their strategy will work outside Japan.
Will Famitsu publish early Xbox One sales?
Will Famitsu publish early Xbox One sales?
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/hardware/accessories/list_slidepad/index.html
This is kinda odd. We already know Smash 3DS will support the New 3DS controls, allowing you to use the c-stick to do smash attacks like the console version. But now Nintendo has updated the CPP support page to specifically indicate that Smash 3DS will -not- support the CPP. Kinda lame for them to deliberately shut out fans who bought the peripheral.
This is kinda odd. We already know Smash 3DS will support the New 3DS controls, allowing you to use the c-stick to do smash attacks like the console version. But now Nintendo has updated the CPP support page to specifically indicate that Smash 3DS will -not- support the CPP. Kinda lame for them to deliberately shut out fans who bought the peripheral.
test_account
XP-39C²
Do we have anymore info regarding why this is? Is it faster because of being more robust/stable, or is it because it supports faster speed (higher mbits, meaning that only those with very high speed internet would benefit from it)?