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frankie_baby · Sep 16, 2011

lunchwithyuzo said:
Zelda doesn't matter. Wii will get a new holiday bundle (and color?) for Dragon Quest's 25th Anniversary.

Really?

Jokeropia · Sep 16, 2011

Stumpokapow said:
You might want to remove Tri from the group since it sailed past a million in the end

JoshuaJSlone said:
Created due to question over whether Monster Hunter Tri would make it, but since it has I really should kick it out of the group.

Stumpokapow · Sep 16, 2011

Jokeropia said:

i have brought shame and dishonour to my family.

Chris1964 · Sep 16, 2011

3DS launch and price drop comparison

LOCK · Sep 16, 2011

Weeks 3, 4, and 5 are beating the trend. Seems the price cut has worked.

Castor Krieg · Sep 16, 2011

LOCK said:
Weeks 3, 4, and 5 are beating the trend. Seems the price cut has worked.

Not really. Week 5 AC (After Cut) is the same as Week 21 BC (Before Cut). It will only work if they can keep it like that.

Mpl90 · Sep 16, 2011

Castor Krieg said:
Not really. Week 5 AC (After Cut) is the same as Week 21 BC (Before Cut). It will only work if they can keep it like that.

But 3DS after the second week started a nasty trend of costant consistent decreases week over week, while now, starting from a lower top result ( 200k ), it obtained to resist much more in the following weeks, and we can see that especially now.

Launch

2nd week 3DS - 210k
3rd week - 90k
4th week - 60k
5th week - 50k

After price cut

2nd week - 110k
3rd week - 60k
4th week - 55k
5th week - 50k

The results corresponding to the 5th week are equal, but the way 3DS reached it in these two different moments is different. Very different.

EDIT:Whoops, I thought 21 was 2! Sorry! XD
And... what BurntPork said about the 21st week.

BurntPork · Sep 16, 2011

Castor Krieg said:
Not really. Week 5 AC (After Cut) is the same as Week 21 BC (Before Cut). It will only work if they can keep it like that.

Actually, it's a bit more than Week 21, and Week 21 is when Flare Red and SF64 launched.

Chris1964 · Sep 16, 2011

1*: [WII] Monster Hunter G (Capcom) {2009.04.23}
2*: [PS3] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 HD Ver. (Capcom) {2011.08.25}

Novid · Sep 17, 2011

hey guys, whats...500,000 copies for a tales game? In Japan? Your kidding...

(looks at numbers)

well they are publishing dark souls.

LOCK · Sep 17, 2011

Castor Krieg said:
Not really. Week 5 AC (After Cut) is the same as Week 21 BC (Before Cut). It will only work if they can keep it like that.

Well...

Weekly average before price cut excluding launch week: ~39K
Weekly average after price cut excluding initial sales week: ~67K

So anything above 40k is good.

Also, my other point with that statement is that the price cut started by selling half of the launch amount. The following weeks however are selling more than the 50% comparison.

Ratios:
Price cut/Launch: 197k/375k = .52%
2nd week pre/post: 110k/210k = .52%
3rd week pre/post: 60k/90k = 66%
4th week pre/post:- 55k/60k = 92%
5th week pre/post:- 50k/50k = 100%

At this rate the following weeks should see the 3DS outselling the launch aligned weeks. So the legs of the system, with the price cut, has gotten better and has worked.

So far...

Parmenides · Sep 17, 2011

dragonfart28 said:
3DS dropped another 5000.

That's.. not bad?

3DS is putting up respectable numbers.

Media Create (Weeks: 29)

NDS 2,499,174
3DS 1,776,605
PSP 1,460,422

I really think people are underestimating Nintendo right now.The recent price drop coupled with Nintendo software will lead to explosive sales in December.No matter what the media says,I believe the 3DS will be very successful.However,NDS numbers are almost impossible to replicate for several reasons.

jj984jj said:
I expected Xillia to sell a lot but, wow, I still didn't see that coming.

I expected 400K back in June ,but somehow Comgnet went crazy in August...then we realized that Xillia was going to be special.

noobie said:
i think PS3 still have a year and few months till the new successor of it is launched.. and i dont believe Wii U will be the start of the new generation.. atleast MS and Sony will be using wait and see policy before changing their original plans for next PS and XBOX

X720 -> 2013/14 ---- PS4 -> 2014/15

-We're in the middle of a huge financial crisis.

-Third party publishers seem happy with the PS360 performance (Ubisoft is the one major exception)

-Sony needs time to heal its wounds. The PS3 has lost around $5 billion and started to make money in FY 2010.The PSV business also needs some time.

-The transition to high-definition consoles in most of the PAL region and Japan, the regions where the PS3 is shining, has been slower than in North America.

-62 million PS3 shipped by the end of 2011.The PS3 will not reach the 199 price point until the back half of 2012.

Epic's Mark Rein said:
The whole idea behind this (Samaritan) is to tell the hardware manufacturers that this is what you should be doing down the road.

I'd like to see it (next gen) at a time when consumers are going to be ready to adopt it and jump in whole-heartedly.I'm not in a huge hurry for it .

I'd rather wait until they can bring out hardware that can do Samaritan affordably than bring out something super high-priced and the market adopts it slowly as they wait for a price drop

(July 20,2011)

OXM

Epic President said:
I'd hate to say that the Wii U is late; in fact, you could almost argue that it's early.

They're aiming for a point beyond the current generation they're just not leapfrogging it. One can certainly envision a future a couple years down the road where we have some significantly leapfrogged generation and then the Wii U again becomes a system that's not easily portable between the other platforms

(August 4,2011)

INDUSTRYGAMERS

Sony's Shuhei Yoshida said:
Watch our rivals go next-gen first

because Nintendos approach was not to upgrade much on its basic hardware Wii doesnt even support HD resolution so they might be the first to move

(July 8, 2010)

DEVELOP

hsukardi said:
As I remember, PS3 basically has a good/big game coming out every week/2 weeks till end of this year. Dark Souls, Ni no Kuni, FFXIII-2, Musou etc.

Dark Souls and Winning Eleven 2012 look promising (FW: Demon's Souls ~ 40K ----- WE 2010/11 ~ 215K)

jgwhiteus said:
On future console RPG releases... isn't it a bit late in the generation to be making development decisions about platforms based on sales today?

Japan is at least four years behind America.PS2 hardcore gamers and third parties have finally moved on to the PS3.Expect great software sales for a few years

Media Create Sales (First Week)

PS3 7,004,795 ---> Tales of Xillia (PS3) 525,605

PS2 9,308,299 ---> Tales of Destiny 2 (PS2) 498,142 (*)

Wii 8,898,423 ---> Tales of Graces (Wii) 143,215

(*) Famitsu

FY 2011-12

NAMCO BANDAI

Titles
PS3 26 (7.8 million units)
PSP 25 (4.21 million units)
NDS 14 (2.1 million units)
3DS 17 (1.9 million units)

CAPCOM

Titles
PS3 16 (8 million units)
PSP 11 (2.2 million units)
NDS+3DS 9 (2.4 million units)

SEGA

Titles
PS3 23 (4.62 million units)
3DS 20 (4.15 million units)
PSP 6 (1.08 million units)
NDS 7 (610K)

KONAMI

FY 2010-11 (Unit Sales Platform Mix)

PS3 27%
PSP 20%
DS 16%
3DS 2%

SQUARE-ENIX

FF XIII-2 (PS3) ---> 2011

FFX HD (PS3/PSV)

FF Vs XIII (PS3)....

ItWasMeantToBe19 · Sep 17, 2011

There is no chance the PS3 is selling in 2014. It's already seeing YoY decline in months with major price drops.

Chris1964 · Sep 17, 2011

2009

Parmenides said:
PS2 hardcore gamers and third parties have finally moved on to the PS3.Expect great software sales for a few years.

2010

Parmenides said:
PS2 hardcore gamers and third parties have finally moved on to the PS3.Expect great software sales for a few years.

2011

Parmenides said:
PS2 hardcore gamers and third parties have finally moved on to the PS3.Expect great software sales for a few years.

On a serious note I wonder if Nintendo will launch the new Wii model this December in Japan and finally give it a price drop. It has a steady flow of new releases for holidays and holds Mario Party 9 and Dragon Quest X for 2012.

Chris1964 · Sep 18, 2011

This will be a big December and I wonder how close it can come to some of the previous epic Decembers.

Famitsu Sales: Dec 2004 (Nov 29 - Dec 26)

01./01. [PS2] Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King (Square Enix) {2004.11.27} - 994.407 / 3.231.288 (-56%)
02./00. [PS2] Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (Konami) {2004.12.16} - 610.133 / NEW
03./00. [PS2] Tales of Rebirth (Namco) {2004.12.16} - 443.942 / NEW
04./00. [NDS] Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo) {2004.12.02} - 366.603 / NEW
05./00. [NDS] WarioWare: Touched! (Nintendo) {2004.12.02} - 350.311 / NEW
06./00. [PS2] Daito Giken Official Pachislot Simulator: Yoshimune (Daito Giken) {2004.12.09} - 269.278 / NEW
07./00. [PS2] Mobile Suit Gundam: Gundam Vs. Z Gundam (Bandai) {2004.12.09} - 268.161 / NEW
08./06. [GCN] Mario Party 6 (Nintendo) {2004.11.18} - 231.154 / 373.450 (+62%)
09./00. [GBA] Mega Man Battle Network 5: Team of Blues (Capcom) {2004.12.09} - 204.531 / NEW
10./10. [GBA] Pokemon Emerald (Pokemon Co.) {2004.09.16} - 200.611 / 1.335.021 (+157%)

HARDWARE

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|System | This Month | Last Month | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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| NDS # |  1.095.930 |            |            |  1.095.930 |            |   1.095.930 |
|  PS2  |    466.659 |    365.583 |    586.575 |  2.750.776 |  2.993.956 |  16.567.990 |
| PSP # |    339.944 |            |            |    339.944 |            |     339.944 |
| GBA # |    293.844 |    138.736 |    512.125 |  2.574.987 |  3.613.269 |  13.755.280 |
|  GCN  |    140.627 |     21.640 |    391.494 |    608.163 |  1.050.687 |   3.608.258 |
|  XBX  |      3.512 |      8.211 |      9.226 |     35.252 |     96.857 |     459.806 |
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|  ALL  |  2.340.516 |    534.170 |  1.503.465 |  7.405.052 |  7.862.724 |  54.677.652 |
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|  NDS  |  1.095.930 |            |            |  1.095.930 |            |   1.095.930 |
|  PSP  |    339.944 |            |            |    339.944 |            |     339.944 |
| GBASP |    286.620 |    135.463 |    435.153 |  2.372.455 |  2.433.315 |   4.805.770 |
|  GBA  |      7.224 |      3.273 |     76.972 |    202.532 |  1.179.954 |   8.949.510 |
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