leatherhat
Member
I disagree completely. Two or three spikes for wiiU followed by weeks (or months) of droughts for the system is not going to beat the vita that actually has a solid release schedule on a month to month and week to week basis.
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Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2013 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)
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I disagree completely. Two or three spikes for wiiU followed by weeks (or months) of droughts for the system is not going to beat the vita that actually has a solid release schedule on a month to month and week to week basis.
Metallix87
Member
They must know they need it by now, they just are too mismanaged to do something about it.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Porting to vita wouldn't allow for cross platform play though.
Because they are investing a lot of money on a mobile studio.
EDIT: I must say that I personally couldn't care less about Monster Hunter as a gamer because I think it's boring as shit. I only look at MH when it comes to sales age. I don't think people should be surprised if MH4 gets ported to ios/android. The control argument is old and was made before for classic RPGs and FPS and those two are pretty commonplace nowadays on mobiles. ios and obviously android now support controllers, so the argument that controls suck on mobiles is pretty much irrelevant going forward IMO.
Metallix87
Member
"Solid" is a bit of an overstatement.
leatherhat
Member
No, it really isn't
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Vita_games
Sort by Japan to get it in order of release (undated 2014 titles will be before that). Also this list is missing a few games like Gravity daze 2.
The PS Vita truly is the dominant handheld to get this Christmas season if you want puzzle & board games.
i'm not sure that's true. we could say the same of final fantasy xi and worse of final fantasy xiv. also if it's been incredibly destructive, it certainly hasn't impacted the sales of recent remakes, both of which have performed in line with other remakes in the series.
Not a chance in hell.
PS4 is going to flop hard in Japan unless Japanese games are released on it. Japan is not the US or the UK.
Aw, Tearaway came out this week and didn't chart? I guess it's not totally unexpected, but
. I started to comment that not a lot of that list catches my eye... but then I remembered we're comparing with Wii U. Just having titles on the list is enough.
pieatorium
Member
lttp but good bump for the U, expected to go up but not that much
3d worlds low opening had me thinking it might not be a good holiday run
3d worlds low opening had me thinking it might not be a good holiday run
It's launching with FFXIV & Yakuza
Cygnus X-1
Member
Excuse me, but weren't people saying exactly the same words before PS2's launch? Just say'ing.
PdotMichael
Banned
And many of the western games sold better than the typical Japanese games on the Playstation 3.
PS4 is not going to flop in Japan. Xbox One will though.
I agree with the launch numbers but it'll crater right after.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
It doesn't matter what happens, there will always be somebody there who wants to try and feel like a big shot saying they saw it coming and it's predictable and no big deal etc. etc.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Neither would ios really. Though I assume it mostly comes down to Nintendo.
There's a good chance Xbox one won't even release in Japan.
The PS4 will be in a much better position than the WiiU.
It has Final Fantasy, Yakuza, Dynasty Warriors and later down the road it's bound to get Resident Evil.
Wii U had MH3U and DQX, what could possibly go wrong?
All of those games have in common that they are only ports of games that are also available on another platform. These games might be popular, but in the end they are "just" ports. They won't be a driving force to move hardware. Yakuza might do better than the other three games, since (afaik) it releases on both of its platforms on the same day. So, it's at least not also an old port.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Umm two of those isn't close to having a release, and the other two aren't that big.
Software wise for Japan Wii u had better software and support (exclusive nsmb, ports like Ninja gaiden, tekken, MH3G, DQ etc)
Saying Japans' support of the PS4 within the launch period is lacking is an understatement. It's simply not there. It likely will be in a year or two but the PS4 is likely going to have a rough as hell start in Japan.
Even compared with the Vita launch the PS4 has a large void in Japan centric content.
Wii U sales are so unprecedented, I can't see how people are saying things with such confidence.
I could see next week going to 100,000 and at the same time sinking to about 40,000.
As for January, I can see Mario keeping it strong around 40,000 to 50,000, and I can also see it going back to 10,000.
I see no real indicators that make me confident to say anything.
As a Wii U fan, I hope for the best though.
I could see next week going to 100,000 and at the same time sinking to about 40,000.
As for January, I can see Mario keeping it strong around 40,000 to 50,000, and I can also see it going back to 10,000.
I see no real indicators that make me confident to say anything.
As a Wii U fan, I hope for the best though.
1st Course
Member
The Dynasty Warriors that is launching with the PS4 is Xtreme Legends 8. A port of this:
Don't expect much from it, Xtreme Legends games don't sell that much.
If there is a PS4 game that is going to move HWs it's Yakuza Ishin.
Don't expect much from it, Xtreme Legends games don't sell that much.
If there is a PS4 game that is going to move HWs it's Yakuza Ishin.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Cross platform games already exist on ios....
They were pretty clear in their last financial release that their strategy is basically:
-Make a major game on a dedicated device
-Pump out tons and tons of DLC for said game
-Make a bunch of tie-in mobile/social titles around the brand the game is in
They feel that, at least currently, it's hard to launch a brand on mobile, but that once you have one, they can be very lucrative on mobile.
At some point that perspective might change, but the impression I get is that it's the small to medium sized games we should expect to disappear from dedicated devices, not the biggest.
For now I would guess that Monster Hunter Smart is the closest we will get to a mainline Monster Hunter on mobile.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Cross platform games could occur on any platform the issue is the platform holders themselves. PS3 had them and Xbox had them I think, but they were to pc. Chances of Nintendo okaying it are a bit iffy.
dat inazuma drop (first week sales)
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven - 41.474
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Blizzard - 149.251
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Fire - 131.346
Total: 280.597
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: Spark - 270.719
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: Bomber - 234.442
Total: 505.161
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine - 75.739
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Dark - 59.520
Total: 135.259
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Thunder, Thunderclap - 73.370
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Hot Wind, Scorching Wind - 94.809
Total: 168.179
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go Galaxy: Big Bang / Supernova - 91.643 / NEW
Gaist Crusher might just be one of the big bombas of 2013. If the game is resulting in that much disinterest I can only imagine how the other related products are doing.
I have to wonder if the Monster Hunter, Pokemon, and looming Puzzle & Dragons releases have put a choke hold on children's 3DS software.
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven - 41.474
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Blizzard - 149.251
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Fire - 131.346
Total: 280.597
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: Spark - 270.719
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: Bomber - 234.442
Total: 505.161
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine - 75.739
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Dark - 59.520
Total: 135.259
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Thunder, Thunderclap - 73.370
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Hot Wind, Scorching Wind - 94.809
Total: 168.179
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go Galaxy: Big Bang / Supernova - 91.643 / NEW
Gaist Crusher might just be one of the big bombas of 2013. If the game is resulting in that much disinterest I can only imagine how the other related products are doing.
I have to wonder if the Monster Hunter, Pokemon, and looming Puzzle & Dragons releases have put a choke hold on children's 3DS software.
to expand VITA user base... it increases VITA baseline in Japan by 20%!
Sammy Samusu
Member
I said "something like", in the sense of having a good LTD (KH 350k) but also some negative factors. I think GE2 is under performing, but that's me, not gonna try to convince anyone.
"Over 500k", Dengeki estimates 550k shipped.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Can't really see how, considering the closest thing is Donkey kong. In this situation cross platform is the best bet, but a 3DS to wii u port likely isn't cheap or that easy.
Honestly the Vita is quite lucky it it got as much cross platform support that it did. Otherwise it'd be in a far worse position currently than it is. Best thing Sony did for the system sales wise (inJapan at least.....).
At this point, I'd be more worried about SMTxFE seeing the light of day
First PADZ won't sell more than 380K first week and now this? You are on fire.
TreasureHunterG
Banned
Man, quit with this lame drama. There are prospects that'll ensure Wii U's stability in the near future. Be assured that, at least in Japan, Wii U situation is secured.
That race for the second last place!
The battle of Champions!
What in a coffin?
And as for SMTxFE, SegaSammy's buyout of Atlus is making me doubt the future of that crossover.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Sega made 3 exclusive Sonic games for the wii u and 3ds of all publishers they'd have the most minimal affect on the game unless it was already cancelled. It's basically just free money for them if Nintendo makes it.
There's also Bayonetta 2 another Sega IP exclusive.
It's not about Nintendo thinking they don't need third parties. It's that they would basically have to fund every single one for it to make a difference. And that is a losing stratedy.
In the near future? Of course, it's Christmas. Secured? I dunno. Just... don't shelve the tool box so soon. We'll see early next year if it's secured or not.
theprodigy
Member
gamergirly
Member
This does make it really hard to predict where the sales will go....
obligatory
Dat first post. And my reaction when I saw that the WiiU almost doubled its number since last week.
AranhaHunter
Banned
That makes sense, thanks. I guess they are tackling the mobile market a little different than SE is, so we can expect their biggest franchises (MH, RE) to stay on dedicated gaming consoles for now whereas other franchises will probably get main entries on mobiles. Worth noting that only recently has capcom started developing for android as well, previous efforts were mainly on ios.
Agreed.
True.
People who seem to expect everything must be psychic. I had no idea 3DW week would only have like a 5K increase, but this week would have the increase it did.
Don't you think Sega will accept free money from Nintendo?
haha, geez. it's comments like this that start upsetting people.
But will a very niche title on a ded console generate money for both?
As least Bayonetta 2 has the potential to make decent dosh for both parties