I wouldn't call Bakemonogatari harem.
Sure it may not actually be a harem in practice. But it gives the illusion of one which may be all that matters
I wouldn't call Bakemonogatari harem.
I wouldn't call Bakemonogatari harem.
It is harem, but Bakemonogatari wrapped in more uniquely aesthetic style and animation which gives it a lot more persoanlities compared to other anime, even anime in general.
Makes me wonder on how much the PSP VN sells. Is it good sells wise?
It's probably ok (should have ended beyond 45k), but not awesome otherwise we would have already heard about a second episode or a port on Vita.
Kinda hard to call it harem though, it is rather unique and doesn't focus that much about the chicks going after the guy, more like they all have their unique problems and the guy happen to be there. (Yes I know that fits with the definition of harem, but putting it on the same bag as Oreimo is kinda uuurrrggg)

Wow, so low. Colour me surprised
Is that numbers usual for VN spinoffs of popular LN?
But I guess Bakemonogatari overall is still counted as niche series
Wow, so low. Colour me surprised
Is that numbers usual for VN spinoffs of popular LN?
But I guess Bakemonogatari overall is still counted as niche series
We have Aquamarine's data on that front.
Profit wise they seem comparable to higher performing XBLA titles when I ran the base calculations, which doesn't seem bad for what are largely ROM dumps:
Data stuff
To be honest my current expectation is either:
1.) 3DS followed by iOS/Android ~6-12 months down the road.
2.) 3DS/iOS/Android multiplat a la what Level 5 does these days.
I leaned very heavily on option 1 historically, but they are putting out a lot of Dragon Quest on iOS all the sudden, and their CEO was very "We need to make changes right now." in one of their interviews, so 2 is seeming progressively more plausible to me.
You should keep looking then, I already changed my prediction to 35-40k/week.Took a look in this thread. So many illusions.
Kinda unrelated but according to that xyo site Bloodmasque has 97k downloads on the iOS. The thing costs 6 euro (not including any promotion). So altogether Square made 582k euro from the game. I wonder if that game payed for itself.
DQ 8 still at 10.000-50.000.
If i where to compare it to DQ7 on 3DS which sold 800.000+ in its first week . This does not look impressive at all .
You should keep looking then, I already changed my prediction to 35-40k/week.
Yeah, I'm leaning more towards Option 2 than Option 1, but I have a sneaky suspicion that DQXI might even be mobile exclusive with maybe a possible 3DS version down the line a la Puzzle and Dragons Z. This push really seems massive for iOS/Android all of a sudden and it's as though they're preparing it for the next major DQ. I'm assuming they'll do the same with Chaos Rings Sigma to either 3DS or Vita if that takes off as well.To be honest my current expectation is either:
1.) 3DS followed by iOS/Android ~6-12 months down the road.
2.) 3DS/iOS/Android multiplat a la what Level 5 does these days.
I leaned very heavily on option 1 historically, but they are putting out a lot of Dragon Quest on iOS all the sudden, and their CEO was very "We need to make changes right now." in one of their interviews, so 2 is seeming progressively more plausible to me.
For Chaos Rings Sigma, there's a bunch of info here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680197
Including the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kCP-h0L1lc&feature=youtu.be
It was delayed until 2014, so I suspect they have at least moderately high hopes for this, or they would have just put it out as is.
They did actually have a Chaos Rings 1 port to Vita via PlayStation mobile IIRC, and seeing something like this show up on more platforms (as an f2p game still) doesn't seem overly implausible given Matsuda's statement about "we might port successful games over".
Possibly, but DQVIII is just a port as opposed to DQVII which got the full remake treatment. Of course ports of DQ remakes have put up similarly impressive numbers on handhelds like the full DQVII remake, though.DQ 8 still at 10.000-50.000.
If i where to compare it to DQ7 on 3DS which sold 800.000+ in its first week . This does not look impressive at all .
DQ 8 still at 10.000-50.000.
If i where to compare it to DQ7 on 3DS which sold 800.000+ in its first week . This does not look impressive at all .
Kinda unrelated but according to that xyo site Bloodmasque has 97k downloads on the iOS. The thing costs 6 euro (not including any promotion). So altogether Square made 582k euro from the game. I wonder if that game payed for itself.
I curious to see how SE reacts since it looks like they'll be selling a lot less copies and making a lot less per sale.
They're still going on with FF despite hardly blowing off the roof.
Assuming best case scenario:
Highly promoted on JP google play store and iOS store.
Android = 49K
iOS = 3x Android = 147K
Total = 196K
Worst case scenario
Poorly promoted on JP google play store and iOS store.
Android = 11K
iOS = Android = 11K
Total = 22K
No matter what, it's really horrible.
LTD targets from publishers (sinobi)
[PS3] New Dynasty Warriors: Gundam <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.980) - 350K
[PSV] New Dynasty Warriors: Gundam <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.980) - 150K
[PSV] Gekijouban Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥5.980) - 30K
[PSV] Gekijouban Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram [Limited Box] <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥9.980) - 50K
Well, that company just doesn't learn.
Are these supposed to be unreasonable? I don't really get it.
Madoka on the PSP did like 100k LTD. 80k seems like a ridiculously conservative estimate.
Maybe they should? From my reading the website seems to be pretty good at the very least at guestimating the figures so in that case those are some awful figures right there.According to that site Namco Bandai should probably stop making Dragon Ball phone video games. ~50k across two games on iOS and Android is horrific given they're like $4.
That makes it even worse. Wow.it was free for a week
I love how stubborn square is. They were determined to make Lightning a popular character and now they are pushing through this mobile thing despite it not really producing much cash, it seems. Maybe one day Square will be stubborn about making FFXV...maybe.They're still going on with FF despite hardly blowing off the roof.
Are these supposed to be unreasonable? I don't really get it.
Madoka on the PSP did like 100k LTD. 80k seems like a ridiculously conservative estimate.
I am kinda glad after hearing all those numbers for Dragon Quest. I hope the new CEO gets a huge reality slap from these numbers and understands that re-releasing their content on iOS/Android isn't exactly a good strategy. I hope that even their original content gets rejected and bombs and flops hard. They should focus their efforts on consoles/handhelds, like they used to do.

Gundam Musou is pure fantasy.
I haven't searched it but I remember there isn't a single PS3/PSV release that sold more than the previous PS3 only release (and if there is it is 1 or 2 titles). Selling less is what usually happens. They just split the userbase, not expand it.
I love how stubborn square is. They were determined to make Lightning a popular character and now they are pushing through this mobile thing despite it not really producing much cash, it seems. Maybe one day Square will be stubborn about making FFXV...maybe.
There are two versions of Vice City in the Google Play store.Not sure how Aqua gets those estimates for digital, but I said when she first posted it that those numbers were very unimpressive, for both ios and android. Obviously Square Enix sees potential in mobiles and is investing heavily in it.
That explains it, but other stuff seems off too, GTA VC on android is between 500k - 1 million and on that german site they have it at ~386K.
2 would make sense to me, except for the fact that they didn't put IX on ios/android, so I'm really not sure what they're gonna do with XI.
For Shin Gundam Musou that's completely unrealistic, the series has been selling around 300-350k copies for each episode, why would it show a 50% increase out of nowhere ? And the Gundam's fans are more likely to wait for the release of Full Boost Extreme VS one month later which looks way better quality wise and is vastly more popular.
Top one seems to be the German censored one.There are two versions of Vice City in the Google Play store.
Grand Theft Auto: ViceCity (Google Play Store: 50.000 - 100.000 | xyo.net: 57.000)
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (Google Play Store: 500.000 - 1.000.000 | can't find this on xyo)
The thing with their FF releases though is that the games were cheaper and the power of the brand in the west.
I mainly want to see if this affects what they charge for mobile games in the future.
[B]DENGEKI TOP 50 SOFTWARE SALES
Week 49, 2013 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)[/B]
[U][B]RANK/L.WK	TITLE								PUBLISHER		RELEASE		SALES	LTD		WK. CHANGE[/B][/U]
[b]1/-     PS3     Gran Turismo 6                                                  SCE                     13/12/05        205,417 205,417[/b]    
[b]2/-     Wii     Dragon Quest X Online Version 2 (Expansion)                     Square Enix             13/12/05        108,361 108,361[/b]    
[b]3/-     3DS     Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind                      Spike Chunsoft          13/12/05        94,775  94,775[/b]    
[b]4/-     Wii U   Dragon Quest X Online Version 2 (Expansion)                     Square Enix             13/12/05        69,836  69,836[/b]    
5/3     3DS     Pokémon X                                                       Pokémon Co.             13/10/12        53,922  1,749,145       23%
6/8     Wii U   Wii Party U                                                     Nintendo                13/10/31        49,544  226,328         51%
[b]7/-     3DS     Inazuma Eleven Go Galaxy: Supernova                             Level 5                 13/12/05        48,994  48,994[/b]    
8/7     3DS     Pokémon Y                                                       Pokémon Co.             13/10/12        43,033  1,615,514       19%
9/4     Wii U   Super Mario 3D World                                            Nintendo                13/11/21        42,869  178,257         13%
10/9    Wii U   New Super Mario Bros. U                                         Nintendo                12/12/08        41,867  716,650         56%
[b]11/-    3DS     Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal Clash! Duel Carnival!                           Konami                  13/12/05        33,317  33,317[/b]    
[b]12/-    3DS     Bravely Default: For the Sequel                                 Square Enix             13/12/05        33,097  33,097[/b]    
[b]13/-    3DS     Inazuma Eleven Go Galaxy: Big Bang                              Level 5                 13/12/05        32,794  32,794[/b]    
14/10   3DS     Monster Hunter 4                                                Capcom                  13/09/14        25,088  3,071,326       4%
15/1    3DS     Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai 2                                   Sega                    13/11/28        19,683  110,133         -78%
16/2    PS3     Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII                           Square Enix             13/11/21        19,206  361,716         -64%
17/15   3DS     Aikatsu! Futari no My Princess                                  Bandai Namco Games      13/11/21        14,653  99,521          -18%
18/11   Vita    God Eater 2                                                     Bandai Namco Games      13/11/14        13,994  312,857         -36%
19/30   3DS     Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life                              Bandai Namco Games      13/08/01        13,983  348,731         91%
20/12   PS3     World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014                                Konami                  13/11/14        13,529  227,297         -37%
21/14   3DS     One Piece: Unlimited World Red                                  Bandai Namco Games      13/11/21        13,350  117,883         -36%
22/28   3DS     Animal Crossing: New Leaf                                       Nintendo                12/11/08        12,771  3,441,217       49%
23/6    PS3     Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag                                 Ubisoft                 13/11/28        12,211  48,514          -66%
24/31   3DS     Friend Collection: New Life                                     Nintendo                13/04/18        11,159  1,518,107       53%
25/19   PSP     God Eater 2                                                     Bandai Namco Games      13/11/14        10,200  163,070         -30%
26/27   3DS     Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle!             Bandai Namco Games      13/10/17        10,056  125,974         15%
27/5    PS3     Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends                              Koei Tecmo              13/11/28        9,200   45,768          -75%
[b]28/-    PS3     Batman: Arkham Origins                                          Warner Entmt. Japan     13/12/05        9,038   9,038[/b]    
29/23   PS3     Grand Theft Auto V                                              Rockstar Games          13/10/10        8,789   538,029         -21%
30/29   Wii U   Taiko no Tatsujin: Wii U Version!                               Bandai Namco Games      13/11/21        8,178   34,254          1%
[b]31/-    3DS     Gaist Crusher                                                   Capcom                  13/12/05        8,053   8,053[/b]    
32/36   3DS     New Super Mario Bros. 2                                         Nintendo                12/07/28        7,788   2,056,240       55%
[b]33/-    PS3     The Walking Dead: A Telltale Games Series                       CyberFront              13/12/05        7,467   7,467[/b]    
34/26   3DS     Daigasso! Band Brothers P                                       Nintendo                13/11/14        7,333   68,060          -17%
35/17   PS3     Call of Duty: Ghosts (Subtitled)                                Square Enix             13/11/14        7,278   259,934         -54%
36/40   3DS     Mario Kart 7                                                    Nintendo                11/12/01        6,324   2,121,334       48%
37/25   PS3     Battlefield 4                                                   Electronic Arts         13/11/07        5,872   162,673         -37%
[b]38/-    Wii U   Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games            Nintendo                13/12/05        5,725   5,725[/b]    
39/18   3DS     Pretty Rhythm Rainbow Live: Kira Kira My Design                 Takara Tomy             13/11/28        5,567   20,661          -63%
40/35   3DS     World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014                                Konami                  13/11/14        5,333   29,083          -5%
41/46   3DS     Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon                                      Nintendo                13/03/20        5,306   932,279         66%
42/33   PS3     Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013                              Konami                  13/10/24        5,100   210,287         -21%
43/34   PSP     World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014                                Konami                  13/11/14        5,044   38,938          -13%
44/45   3DS     Super Mario 3D Land                                             Nintendo                11/11/03        4,983   1,893,648       53%
45/20   PS3     Dynasty Warriors 8 with Xtreme Legends                          Koei Tecmo              13/11/28        4,650   18,750          -67%
46/22   3DS     Kamen Rider: Travelers Senki                                    Bandai Namco Games      13/11/28        4,578   16,234          -61%
47/43   3DS     Youkai Watch                                                    Level 5                 13/07/11        4,433   223,473         27%
48/47   3DS     Mario & Luigi: Dream Team                                       Nintendo                13/07/18        4,339   359,841         47%
49/21   Vita    Dynasty Warriors 8 with Xtreme Legends                          Koei Tecmo              13/11/28        4,272   16,572          -65%
50/37   PSP     Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013                              Konami                  13/10/24        3,944   120,335         -16%[PSV] Tearaway
[PSV] Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate
[WIU] Batman: Arkham Origins
[PS3] Kaihou Shoujo Sin
[PS3] Kaihou Shoujo Sin (Limited Edition)
[PS3] Yakuza 5 (PlayStation 3 the Best)
[PS3] Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (Special Edition)
[360] Batman: Arkham Origins[/B][B]DENGEKI TOP 3 SOFTWARE SALES PER PLATFORM
Week 49, 2013 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)[/B]
[U][B]RANK	TITLE								PUBLISHER		RELEASE		SALES	LTD[/B][/U]
[B]PS3 Top 3:[/B]
[b]1       Gran Turismo 6                                                  SCE                     13/12/05        205,417 205,417[/b]            
2       Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII                           Square Enix             13/11/21        19,206  361,716                         
3       World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014                                Konami                  13/11/14        13,529  227,297                         
[B]PSV Top 3:[/B]
1       God Eater 2                                                     Bandai Namco Games      13/11/14        13,994  312,857                         
2       Dynasty Warriors 8 with Xtreme Legends                          Konami                  13/11/28        4,272   16,572                          
3       Criminal Girls: Invitation                                      Nippon Ichi Software    13/11/28        3,643   19,866                          
[B]PSP Top 3:[/B]
1       God Eater 2                                                     Bandai Namco Games      13/11/14        10,200  163,070                         
2       World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014                                Konami                  13/11/14        5,044   38,938                          
3       Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013                              Konami                  13/10/24        3,944   120,335                         
[B]WIU Top 3:[/B]
[b]1       Dragon Quest X Online Version 2 (Expansion)                     Square Enix             13/12/05        69,836  69,836[/b]            
2       Wii Party U                                                     Nintendo                13/10/31        49,544  226,328                         
3       Super Mario 3D World                                            Nintendo                13/11/21        42,869  178,257                         
[B]WII Top 3:[/B]
[b]1       Dragon Quest X Online Version 2 (Expansion)                     Square Enix             13/12/05        108,361 108,361[/b]            
2       Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition                     Bandai Namco Games      12/11/29        3,842   577,085                         
3       Mario Kart Wii                                                  Nintendo                08/04/10        1,795   3,601,929                       
[B]3DS Top 3:[/B]
[b]1       Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind                      Spike Chunsoft          13/12/05        94,775  94,775[/b]            
2       Pokémon X                                                       Pokémon Co.             13/10/12        53,922  1,749,145                       
[b]3       Inazuma Eleven Go Galaxy: Supernova                             Level 5                 13/12/05        48,994  48,994[/b]            
[B]DS Top 3:[/B]
1       Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Ultimate Hits)      Square Enix             10/03/04        337     193,081                         
2       Pokémon Black 2                                                 Pokémon Co.             12/06/23        279     1,625,751                       
3       Dragon Quest VI: Realms Of Revelation (Ultimate Hits)           Square Enix             11/02/03        261     150,082                         
[B]360 Top 3:[/B]
1       Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag                                 Ubisoft                 13/11/28        769     4,474                           
[b]2       Batman: Arkham Origins                                          Warner Entmt. Japan     13/12/05        762     762  [/b]            
3       Call of Duty: Ghosts (Subtitled)                                Square Enix             13/11/14        346     13,096[B]DENGEKI TOTAL SOFTWARE SALES
Week 49, 2013 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)[/B]
[U][B]SYSTEM		SALES		SALES(%)	FY-TO-DATE SALES	FY-TO-DATE(%)[/B][/U]
PS3		357,125		25.0%		7,792,197		25.8%
Vita		55,070		3.9%		2,226,135		7.4%
PSP		41,418		2.9%		2,589,700		8.6%
Wii U		230,396		16.1%		1,404,532		4.6%
Wii		125,663		8.8%		730,529			2.4%
3DS		607,748		42.6%		14,901,529		49.3%
DS		4,960		0.3%		271,167			0.9%
X360		4,947		0.3%		296,585			1.0%
Total		1,427,327	100.0%		30,212,374		100.0% 
	 
	 
	 
	[B]DENGEKI TOTAL HARDWARE SALES
Week 49, 2013 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)[/B]
[U][B]SYSTEM		SALES		SALES(%)	FY-TO-DATE SALES	FY-TO-DATE(%)[/B][/U]
PS3		24,121		10.7%		441,260			9.4%
Vita		23,562		10.5%		599,699			12.7%
Vita TV		2,476		1.1%		54,847			1.2%
PSP		3,814		1.7%		195,996			4.2%
Wii U		45,023		20.0%		407,891			8.7%
Wii		573		0.3%		36,669			0.8%
3DS LL		91,288		40.6%		2,101,314		44.6%
3DS		33,714		15.0%		861,525			18.3%
X360		335		0.1%		12,387			0.3%
Total		224,906		100.0%		4,711,588		100.0% 
	 
	 
	 
	
Kinda unrelated but according to that xyo site Bloodmasque has 97k downloads on the iOS. The thing costs 6 euro (not including any promotion). So altogether Square made 582k euro from the game. I wonder if that game payed for itself.
LTD targets from publishers (sinobi)
[PS3] New Dynasty Warriors: Gundam <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.980) - 350K
[PSV] New Dynasty Warriors: Gundam <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.980) - 150K
Wait...what!?
Arkham Origins Blackgate got a release on VITA only, why no 3DS?
Gaist Crusher ended up selling 400 copies more than I thought, good job Capcom! It's interesting how there's no presence of Danball Senki at WHF 2014, seems like another bad sign for the franchise.
Not in the Corocoro section.
Not at Level 5's page.
Not in the general items page.
Perhaps this is because the manga seems to be no longer running in Corocoro?
Which is more popular mobile platform in Japan, Android or iOS? Just impulsive curiosity while reading this thread.
Vita got many more third party support than the 3DS, so that's not surprising.
Which is more popular mobile platform in Japan, Android or iOS? Just impulsive curiosity while reading this thread.
Good good
Now only if Sony would make the xperia line more available in the states
Good good
Now only if Sony would make the xperia line more available in the states
Vita got many more third party support than the 3DS, so that's not surprising.
Eh, the Android share is still mostly made up of samsung overall. Also keep in mind that only 24% of phone users in japan use smartphones, so it's an excellent growth market. I actually find it absurd that the app purchases in Japan exceed the U.S with that in mind now that I think of it....
But the Z1s release here(The U.S.) is pretty damn soon, so there's that.
Yes, now where are the statistics pertaining to japan?Ignoring past edits of my previous post, here's a recent article that actually talks about marketshare:
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/31/android-record-smartphone-share-iphone-blackberry
81% Android it says.
It's actually closer to 30% now with some estimations expecting it to hit 70% by 2016.What? 24%? I thought the majority of Japan have moved from those clamshell phone to smartphone O__o
It's actually closer to 30% now with some estimations expecting it to hit 70% by 2016.
Yes, now where are the statistics pertaining to japan?
It's actually closer to 30% now with some estimations expecting it to hit 70% by 2016.
 
	