Media Create Sales: Week 9, 2017 (Feb 27 - Mar 05)

Pinky said:
Looks like a great start for Switch. And Zelda at #1? I thought the consensus in last week's MC thread was that Horizon would edge out Zelda to take the top spot. Clearly didn't happen. Regardless, good numbers all around! Next several weeks will be interesting to see how Switch performs post launch. Really need to pick up Horizon after I finish Zelda too.
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We read too much into individual retailers rankings.
 
Pinky said:
Looks like a great start for Switch. And Zelda at #1? I thought the consensus in last week's MC thread was that Horizon would edge out Zelda to take the top spot. Clearly didn't happen. Regardless, good numbers all around! Next several weeks will be interesting to see how Switch performs post launch. Really need to pick up Horizon after I finish Zelda too.
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No one really said HZD would outsell Zelda, just that the meltdowns would be funny if such a thing happened in Japan of all places.
 
schuelma said:
IIRC the PS4 sales were 20K first week 45K LTD- the idea that it was going to do well at launch on a system with 330K total owners is insane.
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It's not about the total install base for such niche titles.

Well, it also appears that Disgaea is a IP at the end of its life time in Japan.
 
PdotMichael said:
It's not about the total install base for such niche titles.

Well, it also appears that Disgaea is a IP at the end of its life time in Japan.
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Well, that's my point- the PS4 numbers show the series is losing its appeal and unless you thought the portable nature was going to revitalize interest its nuts to expect anything significant from an old title launching with a system.
 
PdotMichael said:
It's not about the total install base for such niche titles.

Well, it also appears that Disgaea is a IP at the end of its life time in Japan.
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You're right, you have to consider that niche games buyers had no interest in buying a Switch at launch.
Of course the userbase counts, if you don't have the audience...
 
It wouldn't be too difficult to map MHX touch screen functions buttons onto a Switch pro controller/two joycons.

- can be kick/special action/DB spin2win
ZL can be Hunter Art 1
ZR can be Hunter Art 2
ZL + ZR can be Hunter Art 3
Left analog click can be Target Lock/cycle Target Lock
D-buttons and Right analog click can be whatever

Plus, in portable mode, you can still have custom touchscreen widgets, like Frontier on Vita. It'll just be on one screen.
 
Another Konami IP ressurected by Nintendo. Next step : Castlevania.
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https://twitter.com/oscarlemaire/status/839492523542343681
 
I know we're never going to get another Metroidvania, but I want another Metroidvania. Even though it doesn't sell in Japan.

I'll settle for Goemon by Good-Feel.
 
Zelda barely selling half the sold hardware, Dragon Quest selling less than expensive 1991 arcade game, and the 3DS still selling with in its current trajectory.

This things dropping below 220k next week or more isn't it?
 
Mr. Pointy said:
I know we're never going to get another Metroidvania, but I want another Metroidvania. Even though it doesn't sell in Japan.

I'll settle for Goemon by Good-Feel.
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Give me Classicvania first Mrgrgr.

If Konami released a new Castlevania on the fable 1999 time should be able to do really well.^^

Goemon is also great choice there.^^ But considering Goemon gameplay, i can see Contra doing really well with four player co-op lol.^^
 
L~A said:
Castlevania pachinko port on the eShop. HD Rumble for the super totally awesome Erotic Violence™.
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Onahole shaped Joycon grip when?

Pinky said:
Yeah, thestopsign is right. I think the retailer rankings was what was leading me(and maybe others) to think that Horizon could edge out Zelda. Clearly not a good indicator.
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I got the impression that the high preorder totals were from people really wanting that Limited Edition, and the actual FW was going to be in the 100-150k range. I was surprised Horizon sold what it did - didn't think it'd do half that total.
 
Boogalogist said:
01./00. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 186.379 / NEW


01./00. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.02.23} (¥7.800) - 198.542 / NEW


Wow....I'm impressed by 2B's week 1 compared to BotW.
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A game on 4 million userbase vs a game on 300k userbase. Are you serious?
 
Fisico said:
Well it's pretty bad for both Disgaea and Setsuna but I was expecting even worse.

The low sellthrough will make them long seller though not for good reasons.
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Setsuna is a pretty old game in Japan at this point, and unlike us they already had a portable installment with the Vita version.
 
Mr. Pointy said:
It wouldn't be too difficult to map MHX touch screen functions buttons onto a Switch pro controller/two joycons.

- can be kick/special action/DB spin2win
ZL can be Hunter Art 1
ZR can be Hunter Art 2
ZL + ZR can be Hunter Art 3
Left analog click can be Target Lock/cycle Target Lock
D-buttons and Right analog click can be whatever

Plus, in portable mode, you can still have custom touchscreen widgets, like Frontier on Vita. It'll just be on one screen.
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Just map hunter arts to the left joycon buttons or Switch Pro Controller D-Pad.
L-button would be target
You don't even need to use ZR and ZL (or map kick to one of them).
 
Hopefully Disgaea does better in the West as it's looking pretty dead as a series. I guess it was too optimistic to think introducing it to a new audience would help.
 
antibolo said:
Setsuna is a pretty old game in Japan at this point, and unlike us they already had a portable installment with the Vita version.
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Of course, but it kinda falls in the "why bother" category on a sales point of view.

Real reason is probably that for their next project Tokyo RPG Factory is going PS4/Switch and Setsuna on the latest is just them getting familiar with the hardware.
 
Mr. Pointy said:
I think I Am Setsuna and Disgaea 5 should have been mid-late March releases. Give people a couple of weeks to finish Zelda.
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I think if there are timely demos added to the eShop it might help their legs, slightly.

Dragon Quest Heroes now has a demo online, which should help entice those finishing up with Zelda to perhaps make the purchase, or those that are just trying out 1-2-Switch, and aren't particularly fans of Zelda, to try something different.
 
I can't understand that low Zelda ratio. I was expecting ~80%. I know how TP did on Wii, but that had Wii Sports. I'm really surprised.
 
PlayStation Store Rankings [Feb 27 - Mar 5]

PS4

01/01. Assassin’s Creed: Unity (59% OFF) (Ubisoft) – {20/11/2014} (¥1.496)
02/02. Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag (59% OFF) (Ubisoft) – {22/02/2014} (¥1.496)
03/NEW. Horizon: Zero Dawn (Sony Interactive Entertainment) – {02/03/2017} (¥7.452)
04/03. Nier: Automata (Square Enix) – {23/02/2017} (¥8.424)
05/09. Need for Speed (60% OFF) (Electronic Arts) – {13/07/2016} (¥1.209)
06/07. Salt and Sanctuary (30% OFF) (Ska Studios) – {18/08/2016} (¥1.246)
07/06. FIFA 17 Deluxe Edition (56% OFF) (Electronic Arts) – {29/09/2016} (¥4.656)
08/04. Super Robot Wars V (10% OFF) (Bandai Namco) – {23/02/2017} (¥8.359)
09/12. Battlefield 1 (50% OFF) (Electronic Arts) – {18/10/2016} (¥4.212)
10/13. Maison de Maou (40% OFF) (Movie Works) – {10/06/2015} (¥518)
11/05. Nioh (Koei Tecmo) – {09/02/2017} (¥7.582)
12/00. Titanfall 2 (57% OFF) (Electronic Arts) – {27/10/2016} (¥3.622)
13/01. Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition (Mojang) – {25/12/2014} (¥2.592)
14/00. Touhou: Scarlet Curiosity (30% OFF) (Mediascape) – {10/02/2016} (¥1.750)
15/10. Grand Theft Auto V (50% OFF) (Take Two Interactive Japan) – {11/12/2014} (¥3.596)
16/08. Goat Simulator (30% OFF) (Double Eleven) – {07/10/2015} (¥700)
17/08. Ys Origin (DotEmu) – {21/02/2017} (¥2.200)
18/00. Rez: Infinite (20% OFF) (SEGA) – {10/10/2015} (¥2.720)
19/00. Star Wars: Battlefront (50% OFF) (Electronic Arts) – {19/11/2015} (¥972)
20/00. The Unfinished Swan (40% OFF) (Sony Computer Entertainment) – {23/10/2014} (¥777)

PSV

01/01. Super Robot Wars V (10% OFF) (Bandai Namco) – {23/02/2017} (¥7.387)
02/05. Steins;Gate 0 (66% OFF) (5pb.) – {10/12/2015} (¥2.160)
03/06. Chaos;Child (66% OFF) (5pb.) – {25/06/2015} (¥2.160)
04/02. Meikyuu Cross Blood: Infinity Ultimate (87% OFF) (5pb.) – {28/08/2014} (¥500)
05/08. Steins;Gate (74% OFF) (5pb.) – {14/03/2013} (¥1.620)
06/09. Chaos;Child Noah (50% OFF) (5pb.) – {21/08/2014} (¥1.620)
07/11. Chaos;Child: Love ChuChu!! (50% OFF) (5pb.) – {21/08/2014} (¥1.620)
08/12. Steins;Gate: Hiyoku Renri no Darling (68% OFF) (5pb.) – {14/03/2013} (¥1.620)
09/15. Steins;Gate: Senkei Kousoku no Phenogram (75% OFF) (5pb.) – {28/11/2013} (¥1.620)
10/00. Touhou Genso Wanderer (30% OFF) (Mediascape) – {25/06/2015} (¥2.268)
11/07. Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 3 Ultimate (10% OFF) (Koei Tecmo) – {23/02/2017} (¥7.581)
12/10. Atelier Rorona Plus: The Alchemist of Arland (50% OFF) (Koei Tecmo) – {21/11/2013} (¥2.777)
13/00. Maison de Maou (30% OFF) (Movie Works) – {10/06/2015} (¥604)
14/03. Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment (42% OFF) (Bandai Namco) – {24/04/2014} (¥1.000)
15/19. Rui wa Tomo o Yobu (83% OFF) (5pb.) – {26/09/2013} (¥1.080)
16/18. Kono Oozora ni, Tsubasa o Hirogete: Cruise Sign (66% OFF) (5pb.) – {31/03/2016} (¥2.160)
17/16. Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition (Mojang) – {29/10/2014} (¥2.592)
18/00. Robotics;Notes Elite (5pb.) – {26/06/2014} (¥6.480)
19/20. Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai (75% OFF) (5pb.) – {10/04/2014} (¥1.620)
20/00. Atelier Totori Plus: The Adventurer of Arland (50% OFF) (Koei Tecmo) – {29/11/2012} (¥2.777)

PS3

01/01. Minecraft: PlayStation 3 Edition (Mojang) – {24/06/2014} (¥2.592)
02/02. Atelier Rorona Plus: The Alchemist of Arland (70% OFF) (Koei Tecmo) – {21/11/2013} (¥1.944)
03/03. Steins;Gate 0 (71% OFF) (5pb.) – {10/12/2015} (¥2.160)
04/04. Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo (82% OFF) (5pb.) – {04/04/2013} (¥1.080)
05/05. Disorder 6 (91% OFF) (5pb.) – {22/08/2013} (¥540)
06/08. Goat Simulator (30% OFF) (Double Eleven) – {07/10/2015} (¥700)
07/10. Chaos;Child (71% OFF) (5pb.) – {25/06/2015} (¥2.160)
08/13. Kono Oozora ni, Tsubasa o Hirogete: Cruise Sign (66% OFF) (5pb.) – {31/03/2016} (¥2.160)
09/12. Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition (Capcom) – {29/03/2012} (¥1.000)
10/19. Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai (75% OFF) (5pb.) – {10/04/2014} (¥1.620)
11/15. Rui wa Tomo o Yobu (83% OFF) (5pb.) – {26/09/2013} (¥1.080)
12/15. Bomberman Ultra (Konami) – {18/06/2009} (¥1.028)
13/00. Soldner X2: Final Prototype (30% OFF) (Eastasiasoft Limited) – {01/07/2014} (¥896)
14/06. The Idolm@ster: One for All (PlayStation 3 the Best) (Bandai Namco) – {29/01/2015} (¥3.024)
15/20. Steins;Gate: Senkei Kousoku no Phenogram (75% OFF) (5pb.) – {28/11/2013} (¥1.620)
16/17. &: Sora no Mukou de Saki Masuyou ni (83% OFF) (5pb.) – {26/12/2013} (¥1.080)
17/00. Dream C Club Zero: Special Edipyon! (D3 Publisher) – {14/02/2013} (¥6.264)
18/11. Resident Evil 4 (Capcom) – {13/03/2012} (¥1.000)
19/00. Infinite Stratos 2 (5pb.) – {03/09/2015} (¥6.480)
20/00. Memories Off: Yubikiri no Kioku (5pb.) – {27/06/2013} (¥6.480)

Those Assasin's Creed games must've double their LTDs since the sale started.

Also this is week 103 of Minecraft Vita on Famitsu, if the Switch launch didn't knock it off it won't leave soon, next week it matches Pokémon Red / Green 104 week run to match the longest uninterrupted run on Famitsu top 30.
 
kswiston said:
What was the final total for Disgaea 5 on PS4?

Also, how did that game do in the US relative to D3 or D4? I haven't liked the later games as much as I did the first, but it would be a shame to see the series die.
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d4 ps3 = d3 ps3 > d5 > dd2 > d3 ps vita > d4 ps vita

d5c should do well in the us.
 
Mr. Pointy said:
I think I Am Setsuna and Disgaea 5 should have been mid-late March releases. Give people a couple of weeks to finish Zelda.
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It wouldn't make any difference. It's not that there are other releases until then. Those who want to buy them next weeks will buy it.
 
&#332;kami;231701194 said:
PlayStation Store Rankings [Feb 27 - Mar 5]

PS4

01/01. Assassin’s Creed: Unity (59% OFF) (Ubisoft) – {20/11/2014} (¥1.496)
02/02. Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag (59% OFF) (Ubisoft) – {22/02/2014} (¥1.496)
03/NEW. Horizon: Zero Dawn (Sony Interactive Entertainment) – {02/03/2017} (¥7.452)

Those Assasin's Creed games must've double their LTDs since the sale started.
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Yeah considering the usual ratio, Horizon must be in the 10-15k range, it means the AC games are above that which is quite something.
 
LordKano said:
It won't be the case.
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Yeah I didn't think about it that much before talking about it with a friend.
I was too busy trying to receive my ghost Switch.

I guess it's probably just "one more game" for the Switch and will play its rôle little by little.
Being released at launch is actually good so people can try it more and more and talk about it. I saw a few Japanese users say that they tried the series for the first time on Switch and are enjoying the game a lot.
 
Eolz said:
You're right, you have to consider that niche games buyers had no interest in buying a Switch at launch.
Of course the userbase counts, if you don't have the audience...
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The audience also disappeared on the PS4.

So either the audience is still on the PS3 or people moved away from the IP somewhen between the move from PS3/VITA over to PS4/Switch.
 
Pretty decent start for the Switch and nice spread of software sales. Zelda isn't as big a deal as in the West so I didn't expect some 80%+ tie ratio. What I'm worried about is the anemic lineup for the coming months. Sales are likely to slow down drastically until at least Splatoon 2.
 
[SWI] SUPER BOMBERMAN R – 39.609 / 2017
[NDS] CUSTOM BATTLER BOMBERMAN – 1.600 / 2008
[WII] BOMBERMAN BLAST – 3.600 / 2008
[NDS] TOUCH! BOMBERMAN LAND 2 – 3.038 / 2007
[NDS] BOMBERMAN STORY DS – 4.359 / 2007
[PSP] BOMBERMAN LAND PORTABLE – 1.648 / 2007
[WII] BOMBERMAN LAND WII – 6.241 / 2007
[360] BOMBERMAN ACT: ZERO – 2.035 / 2006
[NDS] TOUCH! BOMBERMAN LAND – 9.044 / 2006
[PSP] BOMBERMAN PORTABLE – 3.712 / 2006
[PS2] BOMBERMAN LAND 3 – 6.284 / 2005
[NDS] BOMBERMAN – 7.351 / 2005
[PS2] BOMBERMAN LAND 2 – 14.968 / 2003
[GBA] BOMBERMAN JETTERS – 3.608 / 2002
[NGC] BOMBERMAN GENERATION – 10.829 / 2002
[GBA] BOMBERMAN STORY – 18.072 / 2001
[PS1] BOMBERMAN LAND – 32.595 / 2000
[N64] BOMBERMAN 64: THE SECOND ATTACK! – 12.257 / 1999
[GB] BOMBERMAN QUEST – 15.325 / 1998
[PS1] BOMBERMAN: PARTY EDITION – 34.945 / 1998
[N64] BOMBERMAN HERO – 14.666 / 1998
[PS1] BOMBERMAN WARS – 6.929 / 1998
[PS1] BOMBERMAN WORLD – 76.801 / 1998

Best opening week in nearly 20 years, and one of the best of the series on record.
 
Fisico said:
Yeah considering the usual ratio, Horizon must be in the 10-15k range, it means the AC games are above that which is quite something.
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Seems that even in Japan digital can give far longer legs to some titles. If I remember right BF4 also almost doubled its LTD when it had major discounts in PSN.
 
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