Wellington
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Good on you journos.
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Media Early Access returns for E3 2006.
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Good on you journos.
oldschoolpinball
Member
last years lines were one huge clusterfuck
CarlosX360
Banned
*marks calendar*
Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks for the heads up.
Aruarian Reflection
Chauffeur de la gdlk
That's the way it should be done! I think media hours should even be extended to the entire Wednesday.
Chittagong
Gold Member
FIXED.
Better not have hangover next time. This year I got in at half past ten and it was an absolute riot. Especially since I hadn't bothered to get my badge earlier.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Haleon said:
judging the showfloor, apparently creating a fictional publication or getting a job in any retailer. I had to wait 20 min to play New Super Mario Bros because there was a barely past teenage dude from Target or whatever who had absolutely no rush anywhere.
Willie Dynamite
Member
90% of the people who don't belong at E3 wear retailer badges so I don't see how this makes a big difference?
DrForester
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Willie Dynamite said:
The other 10% just know how to get media badges
Aruarian Reflection
Chauffeur de la gdlk
elostyle said:
Exactly. That's why I proposed turning only Wednesday into media only.
Unless you get freebie food vouchers, no one has any business standing in those lines or paying those prices for that low-quality of food. Better to starve for 10 hours than eat that overpriced swill. Bring a sack lunch, go to the McDonalds a few blocks up in downtown, go to Fatburger a mile the other way.... or risk buying a sausage from one of the roving vendors outside. All superior choices.sp0rsk said:
But, on the point -- rock on for media-only hours. That's a step in the right direction.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Why are you all getting excited? Retailers will be able to walk in too. Not much will change at all. You're still going to have some dipshit from Wal-Mart hogging Madden 2007 or Call of Duty 3.
I don't see how this helps. If they really want to do something about the crowding, they need to quit handing out free passes to every geek with a part time summer job at K-Mart.
My guess is that the show will just continue to deteriorate into a bunch of closed-door "invitation only" pods. Last year walking the show floor was a complete waste of time, and its only going to get worse unless they wise up.
My guess is that the show will just continue to deteriorate into a bunch of closed-door "invitation only" pods. Last year walking the show floor was a complete waste of time, and its only going to get worse unless they wise up.
Well, I´m not agree with that, there were some really interesting stands like the Capcom and the Nintendo ones, this one with extreme queues. This will help to go that points that we know they are going to get crowded (fortunately for the likes of the Nintendo I always arrange a meeting, I got into the Zelda stage by the backdoor
). But even if you have meetings or stand-tours, it´s really hard the PR has time enough to let you play everything, so this will make more plausible to play things like the catalogue of DS.I think "Retailers" is a more difficult rank to get that the "guest" o "visitor" or whatever the 90% of the people I saw carried on their ID the last E3. If all that people can´t entry for the first two hours, there will be a huge difference this time.
I think this will help. Of course I would love to have a day only for press or something like that, but I suppose that is not reasonable. All help is appreciated about this, even I we don´t know how it will be until we get there.
The Bookerman
Member
Big middle Finger in the air for Rockstar last year...
a big metal fence all around their area. That's just freakin poor.
For fuck's sake:all those kids with wall mart, target, Blockbuster toys R'us badges....
Hell I saw 10 year old's running around the Blizzard stand.
It was my first year, and it was a mess.
I'm still considering going though...
Maybe I love this industry too much,
and I got too much money to spend
a big metal fence all around their area. That's just freakin poor.
For fuck's sake:all those kids with wall mart, target, Blockbuster toys R'us badges....
Hell I saw 10 year old's running around the Blizzard stand.
It was my first year, and it was a mess.
I'm still considering going though...
Maybe I love this industry too much,
and I got too much money to spend
evilromero
Member
That's what happened to me after E3 2003. I had been to the previous 3 shows and in 2003 the massive lines and asshole PR people just pushed me away. I haven't been since but may be going to conduct research for the University. Maybe.koam said:
Dante said:
Fanboys at E3 really, really, really, suck. There is nothing worse than trying to get some hands-on with a game for a writeup only to have to deal with a line of kids that keep remarking how gay a game is while they keep playing for the next ten minutes.
I remember waiting in line for F-Zero GX while some kid was just screwing around completely while repeating how Nintendo sucked and that they needed to die.
master_shake_05
Banned
Now I just gotta hook the team up with some Press Passes.... 
TekunoRobby
Tag of Excellence
Fanboys back in the late 90's, while they weren't any better were at least funny. I saw a couple dressed up as Pikachu / Squirtel combo. I also saw some kid completely rip apart Australia's head of marketing for Nintendo in a round of Star Fox (won a golden controller too).
I apologize to those of you who work in retail but general store employees really shouldn't be allowed to attend E3; Store Managers at the very most. Though that won't happen I can see them limiting their access to only two days in the future if attendance keeps increasing at a record pace. I also chime in with giving an entire day to the press but I'd also extend it to top level company representatives to keep the whole trade-aspect thriving. People have been demanding this for so many years; you'd think the IDSA would've reacted sooner. At least the two hour advance, while incredibly short, is a step in the right direction.
I apologize to those of you who work in retail but general store employees really shouldn't be allowed to attend E3; Store Managers at the very most. Though that won't happen I can see them limiting their access to only two days in the future if attendance keeps increasing at a record pace. I also chime in with giving an entire day to the press but I'd also extend it to top level company representatives to keep the whole trade-aspect thriving. People have been demanding this for so many years; you'd think the IDSA would've reacted sooner. At least the two hour advance, while incredibly short, is a step in the right direction.
Servizio
I don't really need a tag, but I figured I'd get one to make people jealous. Is it working?
Last year, they let media skip the line for the DS debut. This year, there was no media preference for getting into the Zelda area, at least until the end of the show when they seemed to let up. That *really* sucked.
I really hope I don't have to wait in some five hour line to get my hands on a waggle wand.
I really hope I don't have to wait in some five hour line to get my hands on a waggle wand.
Aruarian Reflection
Chauffeur de la gdlk
Servizio said:
That's not true, I went right up to the media reception desk a couple times every day and they let me cut into the Zelda area every time.
Media badge doesn't always let you cut lines though, it depends on the company. At E3, Nintendo treats media the best out of all the other companies imo, Nintendo consistently has among the longest lines at the show and they always let media cut to save time. Can't say the same for other companies.
Servizio
I don't really need a tag, but I figured I'd get one to make people jealous. Is it working?
SnowWolf said:
Maybe I got the "bad" PR person every company seems to have, because one of the first things I did when I went into the Nintendo booth was ask the ladies at the PR desk "Is there media preference for getting into the back?" *Waves vaguely at the three hour line and the Zelda area, big hopeful smile on my face* "No."
I wasn't the only one who asked at that time either. I did only ask once though. Eh, if it happens again I'll just have to make repeated attempts. What exactly do you say to get into the back?
ryutaro's mama
Member
DrForester said:
This is true.
It seems that no matter what the show organizers do, there's always some clowns that still manage to get in as medis reps off of faux credentials... : (
Servizio said:
You generally have to make an appointment to get into the "backstage" areas for E3.
I believe what the people are speaking of here is using a media pass to cut directly to the front of the line for a game being shown on the floor.
It's gotten to the point where it's almost not worth it to attend E3 anymore. The crowds are very unwieldy and most of the game companies now hold pre-E3 press days so writers for legitimate Web sites and magazines can see and play games without the high decibel assault, the shoving, and the tsuris.
Oddly, I applaud Rockstar for maintaining the fence around its booth and making a stand on crowd control. Anyone who had legitimate business with the company was able to visit and see its games in private, free from distraction.
Robert-GCA
Member
Yes, we are an actual business. And yes we do work for free. We have a business license, our own servers, and everything.DavidDayton said:
Many of the staff are still in school, and the rest of us also hold at least one job in the "real world".
If you asked on th first day, then ya Nintendo were not letting anyone in the back door or cutting in the front of the line on the first day except probably some of the larger mass media publications. But they were letting people in on the 2nd and third day usually.Servizio said:
Oh god that power outage sucked ass. On top of that, there were so god damn many DS and PSP players out there, it killed any chance of running a game beyond 1 match.
On top of that, the printer was out, so I couldn't even print the article out.
At least it was outside under that tent, so there was fresh air.
On top of that, the printer was out, so I couldn't even print the article out.
At least it was outside under that tent, so there was fresh air.
Robert and Jeff, you're going to have to excuse me. I'm merely trying to figure something out here.
I understand your frustration at the large crowds, but what exactly differentiates you folks from the "fanboys"? You're unpaid fansite writers who have a business license, right?
I'm not saying I'm one of the mighty folks who should be given a red carpet to e3 -- I help with a a Mario fansite hosted by Gamespy -- but I'm a bit confused as to who GAF thinks should be attending e3, a game industry trade show. An industry trade show is aimed at members of the gaming industry -- developers, publishers, and retailers (which, as far as I can tell, include the various "register monkies" that are so unloved around these parts). Media (both legitimate and otherwise) aren't part of the industry, really. The show isn't for the media, in theory.
Who is the show for these days, anyway?
Jeff-DSA said:
David said:
Robert-GCA said:
I understand your frustration at the large crowds, but what exactly differentiates you folks from the "fanboys"? You're unpaid fansite writers who have a business license, right?
I'm not saying I'm one of the mighty folks who should be given a red carpet to e3 -- I help with a a Mario fansite hosted by Gamespy -- but I'm a bit confused as to who GAF thinks should be attending e3, a game industry trade show. An industry trade show is aimed at members of the gaming industry -- developers, publishers, and retailers (which, as far as I can tell, include the various "register monkies" that are so unloved around these parts). Media (both legitimate and otherwise) aren't part of the industry, really. The show isn't for the media, in theory.
Who is the show for these days, anyway?
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Originally, sure, but it's changed. I'm sorta doubting that they'd want to bar all media these days. I'll partially agree with you on everything else though, but there's a difference between "18 year old gamer hires a designer with his inheritance money and writes about videogames on his own domain" fansites and sites that have actual name recognition and get actual traffic, but are still pro bono. That being said, I'm happy about this media thing, but I'm still wary of bitching much because no, I don't get paid for what I do like others there who make a living writing about games, but I do represent a website that has 10 years of name recognition if you count its previous incarnations, and I'm sure a lot of money sunk into it along the way.
'sides, from what I tell it's pretty hard to get into the industry unless you really try, and that usually takes a fanboy =P
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