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[Grayman]

I would like to thank everyone involved in the first posts of this thread. Amazing.

 

[Tenbatsu]

Don't you guys always so Eurogamer is spot on? So what's the problem now?

It's just someones opinion...

8 is still a great score imo.

They also gave MGS3 an 8 so its consistent I suppose.

 

[BeeDog]

:lol :lol At people getting all riled up. You guys KNOW that this is a game you'll love to death and play to death, so why does the score matter so much? The same shit is going on with Ninja Gaiden II, those fanboys sure are like this too.

 

[Burli]

Fantastic wallpapers man, you're a beast with the brushes.

 

[Bearillusion]

Are these reviewers not even taking MGO into consideration at all?

 

[sinnergy]

It's almost like... they didn't even appreciate being able to play the game early...

Why would they? They need to be unbiased? Or does playing the game early mean it have to score sky high? Like some kind of bribe?

Anyway this caught my eye:

(Take note, however, that there are several minutes of install time to be endured, not just at the start, but before each act - albeit graced with a fantastic animated graphic of Snake smoking next to some health warnings.)

Could some shed some light on this about how long these would take?

Also, I am buying this game day one.. seems awesome to me.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Whats this I'm reading about Multiple Install instances?

Take note, however, that there are several minutes of install time to be endured, not just at the start, but before each act - albeit graced with a fantastic animated graphic of Snake smoking next to some health warnings.)

 

[Darkpen]

This thread is okay... I guess

damn, that took 11 pages?

 

[Xtyle]

I am however a little worried about the gameplay length...some reviews are stating there is 50/50 cutscene, gameplay ratio...that's worrying if the game is 29 hours long...that makes about 15 hours of gameplay. That's a little more than mgs3 gameplay time though..

 

[Yoboman]

I usually like Eurogamer, but jeez "We love you, Snake. Don't come back." Sounds like they're begging for hits

 

[SolidSnakex]

:lol :lol At people getting all riled up. You guys KNOW that this is a game you'll love to death and play to death, so why does the score matter so much? The same shit is going on with Ninja Gaiden II, those fanboys sure are like this too.

I don't really care about the score. The quote I posted above is what basically sums up what a joke Eurogamer is as a site. It's right up there with Games Radar's ridiculous comment about Ninja Gaiden fans.

 

[scoobs]

I am however a little worried about the gameplay length...some reviews are stating there is 50/50 cutscene, gameplay ratio...that's worrying if the game is 29 hours long...that makes about 15 hours of gameplay. That's a little more than mgs3 gameplay time though..

15 hours is PLENTY of game for me, I don't know what you were expecting but any game longer than about 15-20 hours, I never finish.

 

[Kagari]

I am however a little worried about the gameplay length...some reviews are stating there is 50/50 cutscene, gameplay ratio...that's worrying if the game is 29 hours long...that makes about 15 hours of gameplay. That's a little more than mgs3 gameplay time though..

There's around 9 hours of cutscenes and most reviews are saying it takes ~30 hours to beat.

 

[pulga]

I cant believe some of you are crying over a 9.9. It's pathetic.

 

[Pop On Arrival]

I usually like Eurogamer, but jeez "We love you, Snake. Don't come back." Sounds like they're begging for hits

They seriously say that? I thought it was just the previous poster paraphrasing.

Wow. :lol

 

[Mromson]

People ask why other care about some dumb review score. But it's simply because I, like many other want the game to be justified to others. We want the game to sell. Cause if a game doesn't sell, there won't be a sequel.

For all my wallet cares, though - MGS4 could get 0/10 and be a text based PS3 game. I'd still buy it.

 

[BigBoss]

I cant believe some of you are crying over a 9.9. It's pathetic.

Try to keep up.

 

[Yoboman]

I am however a little worried about the gameplay length...some reviews are stating there is 50/50 cutscene, gameplay ratio...that's worrying if the game is 29 hours long...that makes about 15 hours of gameplay. That's a little more than mgs3 gameplay time though..

There's 8 hours of cutscenes in the game, so I wouldn't be too worried about that

 

[Xtyle]

15 hours is PLENTY of game for me, I don't know what you were expecting but any game longer than about 15-20 hours, I never finish.

Hey same here as well.
But MGS, no matter how long it is..I will finish. And the more the better to me...because I love it.

 

[elcapitan]

I wouldn't worry about scores. Basically, if you're a fan. Game of teh Forever.

 

[SolidSnakex]

I am however a little worried about the gameplay length...some reviews are stating there is 50/50 cutscene, gameplay ratio...that's worrying if the game is 29 hours long...that makes about 15 hours of gameplay. That's a little more than mgs3 gameplay time though..

The P:TOM review says there's 20 hours of gameplay.

 

[Mromson]

I am however a little worried about the gameplay length...some reviews are stating there is 50/50 cutscene, gameplay ratio...that's worrying if the game is 29 hours long...that makes about 15 hours of gameplay. That's a little more than mgs3 gameplay time though..

I beat MGS3 in 2hrs >_>

 

[zoukka]

but it's definitely time to move on.

We love you, Snake. Don't come back.

Well I have to admit, this is nothing but provocatice shit in letters.

Hits it generate will.

 

[sykoex]

People ask why other care about some dumb review score. But it's simply because I, like many other want the game to be justified to others. We want the game to sell. Cause if a game doesn't sell, there won't be a sequel.

For all my wallet cares, though - MGS4 could get 0/10 and be a text based PS3 game. I'd still buy it.

Yeah same here, as a fan of the game, I'd hope for it to have the best perception possible.

 

[Gbeav]

They seriously say that? I thought it was just the previous poster paraphrasing.

Wow. :lol

Nope, I wasn't going to do any linking after reading that.

 

[Danne-Danger]

How can I bitch about a review that I can't read? :<

They found our weakness, retreat to base for re-briefing.

 

[Green Shinobi]

God forgive me for ever trying to make this thread before you.

Seriously. I bow on my knees and beg your forgiveness. Just say the word and I will be permabanned.

 

[Mash]

No, there are people who like to kiss Eurogamers ass because of their constant attempts at humor while they rail against stuff. I'm not one of them.

Guys, 8/10 is good no need to damn Eurogamer to hell over it.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Guys, 8/10 is good no need to damn Eurogamer to hell over it.

People aren't "damning" them to hell over the score, it's the actual text (as it should be) that people don't like.

 

[BeeDog]

Now let's wait for the Gamespot review; it will be another rollercoaster! WEEEE!

 

[GhaleonQ]

I do love Eurogamer's reviews, but I don't understand why some are mad. This barely registers as negative. It's a glorious, barely-orchestrated mess, but a spectacle. It's audacious, unparalleled in most areas, and clueless in others. It's a must-play 8/10. That pretty much sums up Metal Gear for me.

 

[Lakitu]

People aren't "damning" them to hell over the score, it's the actual text (as it should be) that people don't like.

Spot on. 8/10 is reasonable, but the text is ridiculous. Especially the ending.

 

[Yoboman]

Guys, 8/10 is good no need to damn Eurogamer to hell over it.

I think an 8/10 is good, but from what I read of the review, it sounded like a typical "look how we can poke holes in a great game, all whilst being smarmy about it"

 

[Mromson]

Guys, 8/10 is good no need to damn Eurogamer to hell over it.

NEVER!

8/10 is downgrading for the awesomeness of MGS4! They change it to 9/10 and I'll reconsider banning that site from my PC.

 

[elcapitan]

Let's bitch after we've all played the game, cried ourselves to sleep, and justify how utterly and completely wrong the negative reviews are.

 

[frAntic_Frog]

:lol :lol At people getting all riled up. You guys KNOW that this is a game you'll love to death and play to death, so why does the score matter so much? The same shit is going on with Ninja Gaiden II, those fanboys sure are like this too.

its still amusing to see some of the comments at the end of those reviews where some smart-ass says "oh well there goes my reason to get MGS4 now.....i'll probably wait for FF13 to buy PS3" lol who are those trolls tryin to kid?? :lol

 

[Yoboman]

Whats this I'm reading about Multiple Install instances?

I suppose multiple short ones between acts is a bit more fluid than one big long one before ever starting the game

Problem is, how can you prepare a sandwich like that?

 

[Mromson]

Now let's wait for the Gamespot review; it will be another rollercoaster! WEEEE!

GameSpot pretty much HAS to give MGS4 a low score. If only to rally up any site traffic. :lol

 

[brandonh83]

GameSpot pretty much HAS to give MGS4 a low score. If only to rally up any site traffic. :lol

I hope to god it gets an 8.5.

 

[DieH@rd]

eurogamer review closing comments:

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You're sorry to see Snake go. But should you be? Guns of the Patriots is a frustrating, fractured game that turns Metal Gear Solid's world upside down several times over, but never changes it. It just burrows deeper into what fans love and detractors hate than ever before, and it will make few converts. It's a crying shame, given how many genuinely classic gaming moments there are here, given the countless exquisite creative touches, but Metal Gear Solid 4 is its own worst enemy. You could not ask for a funnier, cleverer, more ambitious or inspired or over-the-top conclusion to the Metal Gear Solid series, but it's definitely time to move on.

We love you, Snake. Don't come back.

8/10
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[elcapitan]

Problem is, how can you prepare a sandwich like that?

One step at a time.

 

[Tenbatsu]

Now let's wait for the Gamespot review; it will be another rollercoaster! WEEEE!

8.8

 

[frAntic_Frog]

I suppose multiple short ones between acts is a bit more fluid than one big long one before ever starting the game

Problem is, how can you prepare a sandwich like that?

 

[Yoboman]

I do love Eurogamer's reviews, but I don't understand why some are mad. This barely registers as negative. It's a glorious, barely-orchestrated mess, but a spectacle. It's audacious, unparalleled in most areas, and clueless in others. It's a must-play 8/10. That pretty much sums up Metal Gear for me.

Clueless about what though? I read the whole review, and the gist of it seemed to be that they think cutscenes detract from everything else/ And how's this for a beauty:

"Its involved, conspiratorial plotting, its arch sense of humour, its demanding stealth gameplay, its sprawling cinematic ambition, its preposterous stylishness and pretensions toward artistic weightMillions hate it for exactly the same reasons."

MILLIONS hate it?:lol

 

[dino1980]

They also gave MGS3 an 8 so its consistent I suppose.

Not the same guy who wrote the MGS3 review as the MGS4 review

MGS3
Tom Bramwell

MGS4
Oli Welsh

 

[revolverjgw]

Nailing down precisely how much gameplay there is in the game is harder than most games, pretty much impossible, seeing as there's so much optional things to experiment with in this series, and wildly varying ways to play.

I tend to listen to the more generous estimations, because I know I'm personally going to play this game slowly. I'm gonna sneak, I'm gonna gawk, I'm gonna toy with the AI, I'm going to test all the weapons and gear, I'm going for tons of optional context-sensitive Codec conversations, I'm gonna explore, I'm gonna be a ghost, not gung-ho...

 

[Xtyle]

I can't forgive gamespot's mgs3 8.7...that was nuts back then

 

[BeeDog]

Reading the excerpts from the Eurogamer review, I can start to understand those who are critical of EG's writing. It sure does sound like they're bitter about something.

 

[Yoshichan]

I just read the OP... I said holy shit...

Also, it's pretty pathetic that I'm not going to read any other posts in this thread just to be safe See you guys 14:th June

 

[McBradders]

Epic, epic, epic OP for what will be thread of the year.

To all involved, I salute you!