METROID PINBALL DS

dark10x said:
Sure, throw up a list of titles that were released in the US. :)
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Well, cutting out the stuff that never saw US release we have....

Konami Computer Entertainment Japan
-Cy Girls (PS2)
-Rave Master: Fighting Live (GC)
-Rave Master International (PS2)
-Rave Master: Special Attack! Now! (GBA)
-Shaman King: Legacy of Spirit: Soaring Hawk (GBA)
-Shaman King: Legacy of Spirit: Sprinting Wolf (GBA)
-Shaman King: Master of Spirit (GBA)
-Shaman King: Power of Spirit (PS2)
-Yu-Gi-OH! Capsule Monster Coliseum (PS2)
-Yu-Gi-OH! Destiny Board Traveler (GBA)
-Yu-Gi-OH! Duelists of the Roses (PS2)
-Yu-Gi-OH! Dungeondice Monsters (GBA)
-Yu-Gi-OH! Nightmare Troubador (DS)
-Yu-Gi-OH! Power of Chaos: Joey the Passion (PC)
-Yu-Gi-OH! Power of Chaos: Kaiba the Revenge (PC)
-Yu-Gi-OH! Power of Chaos: Yugi the Destiny (PC)
-Yu-Gi-OH! Reshef Of Destruction (GBA)
-Yu-Gi-OH! The Eternal Duelist Soul (GBA)
-Yu-Gi-OH! The Falsebound Kingdom (GC)
-Yu-Gi-OH! The Sacred Cards (GBA)
-Yu-Gi-OH! World Championship Tournament 2004 (GBA)
-Yu-Gi-OH! Worldwide Edition: Stairway to the Destined Duel (GBA)

Konami Computer Entertainment Tokyo
-World Soccer Winning Eleven 6 International (PS2)
-World Soccer Winning Eleven 7 International (PS2)
-World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 International (PC)
-World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 International (PS2)
-World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 International (XBox)
-World Soccer Winning Eleven Series (DS)
-World Soccer Winning Eleven Series (PSP)

Konami Computer Entertainment Studio
-Disney Sports Basketball (GBA)
-Disney Sports Basketball (GC)
-Disney Sports Football (GBA)
-Disney Sports Football (GC)
-Disney Sports Motocross (GBA)
-Disney Sports Skateboarding (GBA)
-Disney Sports Skateboarding (GC)
-Disney Sports Snowboarding (GBA)
-Disney Sports Soccer (GBA)
-Disney Sports Soccer (GC)
-Enthusia: Professional Racing (PS2)
-ESPN Final Round Golf 2002 (GBA)
-ESPN Great Outdoor Games: Bass 2002 (GBA)
-ESPN International Superstar Soccer (PS2)
-ESPN International Track & Field (DC)
-ESPN International Track & Field (PS2)
-ESPN International Winter Sports 2002 (GBA)
-ESPN International Winter Sports 2002 (GC)
-ESPN International Winter Sports 2002 (PS2)
-ESPN International Winter Sports 2002 (Xbox)
-ESPN National Hockey Night (PS2)
-ESPN National Hockey Night 2002 (PS2)
-ESPN NBA 2Night (DC)
-ESPN NBA 2Night (PS2)
-ESPN NBA 2Night 2002 (PS2)
-ESPN NBA 2Night 2002 (Xbox)
-ESPN Winter X Games Snowboarding (GBA)
-ESPN Winter X Games Snowboarding (PS2)
-ESPN Winter X Games Snowboarding 2002 (PS2)
-ESPN Winter X Games Snowboarding 2002 (Xbox)
-ESPN X Games Skateboarding (PS2)
-Evolution Skateboarding (GC)
-Evolution Skateboarding (PS2)
-Evolution Snowboarding (GC)
-Evolution Snowboarding (PS2)
-Field of Nine Digital Edition 2001 (GBA)
-Fisherman's Challenge (PS2)
-Jurassic Park III: Island Attack (GBA)
-Jurassic Park III: Park Builder (GBA)
-K-1 World Grand Prix (PS2)
-NBA Starting Five (PS2)
-NBA Starting Five (Xbox)
-NBA Starting Five 2005 (PS2)
-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (GBA)
-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (GC)
-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (PC)
-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (PS2)
-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Xbox)
-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Battle Nexus (GBA)
-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Battle Nexus (GC)
-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Battle Nexus (PC)
-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Battle Nexus (PS2)
-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Battle Nexus (Xbox)
-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Melee (GC)
-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Melee (PC)
-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Melee (Xbox)
-WTA Tour Tennis (GBA)
-WTA Tour Tennis: Pro Evolution (GC)
-WTA Tour Tennis: Pro Evolution (PS2)
-WTA Tour Tennis: Pro Evolution (Xbox)
-Yu-Gi-OH! The Dawn of Destiny (Xbox)

Konami Computer Entertainment Hawaii
-ESPN MLS Extra Time (PS2)
-ESPN MLS Extra Time 2002 (GC)
-ESPN MLS Extra Time 2002 (PS2)
-ESPN MLS Extra Time 2002 (Xbox)
-ESPN X Games Skateboarding (GBA)
-Jurassic Park III: DNA Factor (GBA)
-McFarlane's Evil Prophecy (PS2)

Konami Digital Studios
-Dragon Booster (DS)
-ESPN NFL Prime Time 2002 (PS2)
-ESPN NFL Prime Time 2002 (Xbox)
-WiNX (DS)
-Ys: The Ark of Napishtam (PS2)
-Ys: The Ark of Napishtam (PSP)


...still not that great, though a bit better thanks to most of the anime cash-ins being dropped. And this is just licenses, not Konami owned franchises (Silent Hill, Castlevania, Metal Gear, DDR, etc) and doesn't count Konami games from other hired external developers (King Arthur, etc). How about listing all those new IPs Konami's doing?
 
Why would I limit it to the US when Konami's primary market is Japan.
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So? I'll ask for the Japanese list later this year when I'm living there...but for now, I only want US releases listed. :)

Yet somehow, Nintendo is the king of milking. Give me a break. Any company will milk their games if it makes them tons of cash, fools.
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Yep. Milking doesn't bother me in the least, to be honest. Unless quality takes a massive nosedive, I'm all for it.

The only time it seems a bit crazy to me is when you're talking about stuff like what Capcom did with the PSX Resident Evil games.
 
It's a pinball game. I wouldn't bother to create new characters and environments for pinball...where the gameplay is pretty much set in stone. I have no problem with them using samus or kirby or a dung beetle. Besides, there is a pinball game based on a new franchise (okami...or whatever).

I do agree that interesting new franchises are welcome. However, for just about every game company, their game releases are built around their established franchises with new franchises thrown in to possibly catch the wind and germinate afield. Fortunately for nintendo they have several established franchises (all of which were new experiments at some point) to play with.
 
How is this a bad thing again?

So what if its just a collection of cool pinball tables with Metroid themes and doesn't try to fit into a story?

What is the fucking problem? How is it different from the Real Life Adam's Family or Star Wars tables that I still love to play?

Where was it posted that its actually going to be Samus rolled into a ball on a giant Space Pirate table? Please link.

Good god, some of you are Nancy-boy whiners. =|
 
it would be cool if samus was able to break some blocks to open a new path in the table by dropping a bomb (in Morph Ball mode) .. or using the Spider Ball in some tables .. i think it will be fun ..
 
I mean, I know all message boards really are, are a place to go Bitch, but this board takes the cake. What is wrong with this title? I can think of a million cool things that they could do with this. I think it will be pretty cool, unless it ends up like the last Mario Pinball.
 
I knew about Mario Pinball before it was announced... I believe EB was the one to convince the public of the title's existance.
 
Release lists like EB's are almost always accurate, in my experience. Now, if Nintendo is going to milk the franchise like this... can we please have a 2D or 2.5D Metroid 5? Please?
 
FoneBone said:
Release lists like EB's are almost always accurate, in my experience. Now, if Nintendo is going to milk the franchise like this... can we please have a 2D or 2.5D Metroid 5? Please?
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off topic, but EB updated their release of Zelda 2005 yesterday. It's now 10/1 2005.
 
Jr. said:
I mean, I know all message boards really are, are a place to go Bitch, but this board takes the cake. What is wrong with this title? I can think of a million cool things that they could do with this. I think it will be pretty cool, unless it ends up like the last Mario Pinball.
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It's a Nintendo title, that's why they bitch. I'm sure if it was Metal Gear Pinball or Grand Theft Pinball, it would be an amazing concept and one that would be lauded as a good way to expand a franchise.
 
Sander said:
I love Metroid, I like Pinball. Bring it on! First Person Metroid Pinball would be even better.
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:lol :lol :lol

I don't see the big deal. Samus can turn into a ball the premise actually lends itself to a pinball game. As long as Nintendo also makes a kick ass 2D Metroid let them get the pinball game out of their system.


But perhaps Nintendo is losing an opportunity here to bring forth a brand new franchise in the pinball videogame genre! :D
 
It's a Nintendo title, that's why they bitch. I'm sure if it was Metal Gear Pinball or Grand Theft Pinball, it would be an amazing concept and one that would be lauded as a good way to expand a franchise.
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Funny. I was just thinking that if it was a Jax or Blinx pinball, all the nintendo fanboys would come out of the woodwork and say how the game isnt innovative and how games like that are what's causing the industry to suck now.
 
Bob White said:
Funny. I was just thinking that if it was a Jax or Blinx pinball, all the nintendo fanboys would come out of the woodwork and say how the game isnt innovative and how games like that are what's causing the industry to suck now.
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Pretty much, the only exception is that Metroid actually lends itself to pinball.

The industry does suck. Too many me-too titles. ;)
 
Spike said:
It's a Nintendo title, that's why they bitch. I'm sure if it was Metal Gear Pinball or Grand Theft Pinball, it would be an amazing concept and one that would be lauded as a good way to expand a franchise.
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No, it wouldn't. But by the way, exactly these 2 series have yet to deliver a "joke" spin-off in such a genre like pinball, nor are they milked hard.
 
Guns N' Poops said:
No, it wouldn't. But by the way, exactly these 2 series have yet to deliver a "joke" spin-off in such a genre like pinball, nor are they milked hard.
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I haven't followed up on Metal Gear Acid, but is it a "normal" Metal Gear game or a spinoff?
 
Guns N' Poops said:
No, it wouldn't. But by the way, exactly these 2 series have yet to deliver a "joke" spin-off in such a genre like pinball, nor are they milked hard.
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Metal Gear Acid -- card game
Metal Gear Online -- at some point

GTA3/VC/SA in the span of a generation, not fixing bugs present in GTA3, is unacceptable. Fun, but unacceptable. :D
 
MGA a spin-off, but it's not at all a spin-off like a pinball game would be to the Metroid series. It's a lower budget style Metal Gear with a serious story and different, but comparable gameplay in terms of setting and design.
And wow, 3 HUGE, free roaming games with major improvements over 4 years. Especially the last one, that destroys 95% sequels out here in terms of achievement in comparison to the predescessor. Plus a solid handheld appearance by a small team.
 
Really, what is wrong with a Metroid pinball game? I am much more offended by metroid Hunters than Metroid Pinball. metroid hunters shoehorns the Metroid characters and universe into a genre the doesn't quite fit. The characters, environment and weapons in an arena shooter like Hunters are actually important, thus that is the game Nintendo should have used to make a new franchise. It is clear, however, that borrowing an established franchise will help sell the game.

With pinball, the characters, setting, etc. are just fluff, they entertain your senses as you concentrate on game mechanics that involve the IP in almost no direct manner. I have seen pinball games fasioned after The Simpsons, Lord of The Rings, Star Wars, Adam's Family, etc, etc, in arcades and none of those pinball games damaged the IP in any way for me. I did not imagine that my winning or losing the pinball game had any sort of effect on the way the franchise's ongoing story would play out. Instead the franchise grafted a fun and familiar skin atop simple pinball mechanics.

Reasons to enjoy a Metroid pinball?

The music will be awesome.
The franchise features lots of environments for a multitude of different boards.
Samus can roll into a ball and would make a great pinball, and her activities on the pinball board will have NO EFFECT on the cannon of the series.
If Metroid style game play is included, we could have a pinball game where all of the boards are interconnected via complex and difficult to uncover portals, the boards could be littered with secrets and mazes, including bombable walls if morphball bombs are included, you could have to visit seprate boards to unlock areas in the back corners of previous boards, also Metroid-esque giant pinball bosses could be really cool.
The music will be awesome.

Not to mention, pinball on the DS could provide a large vertically oriented board without scrolling, and could provide some form of touch input on the bottom of the board where you strategically place barriers by drawing them with the stylus.

Overall I think this game could be great if done right, and see little reason to be upset.
 
Guns N' Poops said:
MGA a spin-off, but it's not at all a spin-off like a pinball game would be to the Metroid series. It's a lower budget style Metal Gear with a serious story and different, but comparable gameplay in terms of setting and design.
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Still a spinoff. It goes from action/adventure/stealth to Card-based strategy-style game.

And wow, 3 HUGE, free roaming games with major improvements over 4 years. Especially the last one, that destroys 95% sequels out here in terms of achievement in comparison to the predescessor. Plus a solid handheld appearance by a small team.
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As much as I agree, I still have to say milking. Look at Ratchet and Clank, with a game a year over the past 3 years. Again, great series but milking applies.
 
This could actually be pretty interesting. Pokemon Pinball Ru/Sa to this day remains one of my favorite handheld pinball games ever. If the same people are working on Metroid Pinball, it bodes very well.
 
Spike said:
As much as I agree, I still have to say milking. Look at Ratchet and Clank, with a game a year over the past 3 years. Again, great series but milking applies.
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As I was telling someone else, it's not about how fast new games in a respective franchise comes out. Ratchet and Clank and Jak and Daxter - they're three games, a trilogy... and we're probably not going to see games in those series again. Jak might get that kart racer, but after this generation they're done. It's quite a bit different from the scenario we're getting here. I'm fine with a brand new franchise starting up at the start of each gen.
 
As much as I agree, I still have to say milking. Look at Ratchet and Clank, with a game a year over the past 3 years. Again, great series but milking applies.
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...and just what is wrong with milking in that regard? I know that, when I finish a great game, I certainly am interested in MORE of that game. In those cases, the three games released were all very good and worth playing. As long as the games being milked remain of high quality, I don't see the problem with it.

I'm a HUGE Silent Hill fan, for instance, so I was thrilled to receive 3 SH games over the course of just 4 years. Hell, Resident Evil has been milked to hell and back...but we've just received the greatest game in the series recently.
 
dark10x said:
Hell, Resident Evil has been milked to hell and back...but we've just received the greatest game in the series recently.
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Because RE4 kicked the trend and has been in development for considerably longer. It was fresh and very well-designed, whereas, for example, I probably wouldn't have cooled on the Silent Hill series if they had spent more time on each game.
 
Awesome. I've been waiting for another great franchise-based pinball game to follow up Kirby's Pinball Land (one of the greatest Game Boy games ever), and this could definitely be it. The DS is the perfect system to put it on, too.
 
DAMNIT!!! Can't this freaking company understand that this is going out of hand? I'm sick and tired of this.
 
what a sad day in gaming history :D nintendo has just fount out that what gamer wants


gamer don't want a game which is rich in grahpic, they want a game called METROID PINBALL.
 
Jr. said:
Then shut the * up and dont buy it!
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You are indeed blessed are the Nintendumb. Can't you understand that when a company is whoring it's characters that much nobody is gonna take them seriously? For example I'm starting to have a certain dislike for mario. I've seen him in so many games that he became kinda annoying for me now.
 
dark10x said:
...and just what is wrong with milking in that regard? I know that, when I finish a great game, I certainly am interested in MORE of that game. In those cases, the three games released were all very good and worth playing. As long as the games being milked remain of high quality, I don't see the problem with it.
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And there is the key point.

Who says Metroid Pinball won't be of high quality? But, it's because it's Nintendo, and it's one of their franchise characters that the bitching begins.

We've had Pokemon Pinball, Mario Pinball, and now Metroid Pinball. Out of those three titles, Metroid makes the most sense as a pinball game, seeing as Samus turns into a ball. Also, Nintendo is publishing that Odama game for the Cube. IIRC that is a pinball game, so they do invest in new IP for different games.

But, and here's what alot of people forget. The DS is the system that's supposed to bring in a new audience to handheld gaming. The audience that isn't into gaming. If you look at it from this point of view, the target market might not know what Metroid is, but they like pinball, so this gets them interested. When/If they get the game, they have a nice opening movie and a nice backstory in the manual explaining the Metroid mythos, and try and get this target market to become interested to the point where they're willing to try out a Metroid proper.
 
Actually, Pokemon makes all kinds of sense as a Pinball game, imho. And the whole catch 'em all mechanic just adds a certain challenge and level of addiction to the genre on top of the whole high score thing (which Pokemon Pinball also had.)

Still, a Pinball of the Dead / Devil's Crush type game in the Metroid-verse will also work quite well, imho.
 
Che said:
You are indeed blessed are the Nintendumb. Can't you understand that when a company is whoring it's characters that much nobody is gonna take them seriously? For example I'm starting to have a certain dislike for mario. I've seen him in so many games that he became kinda annoying for me now.
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Give up. Their a company, not a museum. Out of the fans they have left...many are young and don't give a shit, the others are an obsessed niche that buy anything and love anything they do no matter the content. The small sliver who have an emotional attachment without a strange emotional issue backing it up don't buy enough games. They follow the perfect model for getting the most out of the two largest groups. Just be happy that many of the games are fine for any of the above 3, and let go.
 
Musashi Wins! said:
Give up. Their a company, not a museum. Out of the fans they have left...many are young and don't give a shit, the others are an obsessed niche that buy anything and love anything they do no matter the content. The small sliver who have an emotional attachment without a strange emotional issue backing it up don't buy enough games. They follow the perfect model for getting the most out of the two largest groups. Just be happy that many of the games are fine for any of the above 3, and let go.
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Hey thanks for categorizing Nintendo fans like that, trying to make them look stupid but you're wrong. I'm a Nintendo fan like many others on this board and I hate what Nintendo is doing. WTF are they thinking, that we're idiots that are going to buy anything with a famous name on it? We're not EA fans you know...
 
Musashi Wins! said:
Give up. Their a company, not a museum. Out of the fans they have left...many are young and don't give a shit, the others are an obsessed niche that buy anything and love anything they do no matter the content. The small sliver who have an emotional attachment without a strange emotional issue backing it up don't buy enough games. They follow the perfect model for getting the most out of the two largest groups. Just be happy that many of the games are fine for any of the above 3, and let go.
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How painfully stupid. Don't take the minority fanboy and refer to them as fans. I'm a Nintendo fan because I so often love their games. Frankly I think it's strange that any person that considers themselves a "gamer" isn't consequently a Nintendo fan. Of course this doesn't mean that a fan of Nintendo buys everything that they make or likes their decisions.
 
Come on, Samus rolls into a ball. I'm just shocked it took them this long.

Just as long as it's more like Pokemon Pinball and less like Mario Pinball Land, we're alright.
 
Socreges said:
Frankly I think it's strange that any person that considers themselves a "gamer" isn't consequently a Nintendo fan.
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you can't offer yourself as an example of moderate, objective nintendo fandom and then say that. :lol
 
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