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[SolidSnakex]

What has his team done for xbox bar a lame port ?

And what does this have to do with whether or not he dislikes that system or not? It takes him about 3 years to develop a game because his team creates a new engine specifically for that game. And since 1998, he's only been directing MG games and that's a series he feels is best suited for the PS platform.

 

[BigBoss]

Kojima has had nothing but good things to say about the Xbox 360 and how well Microsoft treats developers. He praised Xbox Live and slammed Sony's online service, he even expressed dissapointment that there would be no Xbox version of MGS3 Subsistence because he would've preferred to test the online portion over Live, but you're right, Kojima must absolutely hate Microsoft.

 

[Spike]

Botched Xbox port.

I haven't played the Xbox version, but what is botched about it? All I can remember people saying is there was some slowdown during the opening cinema.

 

[trmas]

Doesn't matter to me, I had all the systems. But Capcom stands to make a LOT of money for porting RE4 to the PS2. If Itagaki is the genius he claims to be, he would be able to pull off a good PS2 port of NG. Correct?

 

[Speevy]

Don't ask me. I've read enough complaining about it though that I'm sure someone can tell you.

 

[BigBoss]

I haven't played the Xbox version, but what is botched about it? All I can remember people saying is there was some slowdown during the opening cinema.

Theres massive slowdown in the first area and it generally runs worse than the PS2 version, its also missing some effects.

 

[VisionaryQuest0]

Kojima has had nothing but good things to say about the Xbox 360 and how well Microsoft treats developers. He praised Xbox Live and slammed Sony's online service, he even expressed dissapointment that there would be no Xbox version of MGS3 Subsistence because he would've preferred to test the online portion over Live, but you're right, Kojima must absolutely hate Microsoft.

Then why doesn't he also just make an Xbox version then? He seems to have the pull and resources to get what he wants.

 

[BigBoss]

Then why doesn't he also just make an Xbox version then? He seems to have the pull and resources to get what he wants.

It would delay MGS4.

 

[trmas]

Because MS is Satan, and it's all just words.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Then why doesn't he also just make an Xbox version then? He seems to have the pull and resources to get what he wants.

Because it'd take away development time from MGS4 and he's not willing to sacrifice that for a port that isn't going to sell all that well.

 

[Spike]

It would delay MGS4.

Couldn't he have another team handle the port? Or Kuju, perhaps? What are they doing with Konami, anyhow?

 

[Speevy]

Kojima has had nothing but good things to say about the Xbox 360 and how well Microsoft treats developers. He praised Xbox Live and slammed Sony's online service, he even expressed dissapointment that there would be no Xbox version of MGS3 Subsistence because he would've preferred to test the online portion over Live, but you're right, Kojima must absolutely hate Microsoft.

I said either that or he prefers Sony platforms. Really, what is the likelihood that he would be one of the people speaking about the 360 at a conference?

That's what I'm talking about. MGS4 is the PS3's biggest title right now, and as such, Kojima is nowhere near what I'd call a multiplatform developer. (just like Itagaki)

If he announces something for other platforms that he's personally overseeing, I'll be wrong. But do you really think that's going to happen anytime soon?

 

[Ryudo]

And what does this have to do with whether or not he dislikes that system or not? It takes him about 3 years to develop a game because his team creates a new engine specifically for that game. And since 1998, he's only been directing MG games and that's a series he feels is best suited for the PS platform.

Actions speak louder than words. Had they have developed MGS3 for xbox as well they would have had massive sales in the US, EU, OC because people really dig the splinter cell type games.

Also the differences between 1, 2 and 3 hardly constitue 9 years of dev time.

 

[Lardbutt]

Honestly, if you can't find a couple of games on the PS2 that are worth buying the console for, then your gaming tastes are pretty peculiar, to say the least.

You can say the same thing for almost every console that has been made.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Also the differences between 1, 2 and 3 hardly constitue 9 years of dev time.

That's your opinion, but certainly the polish does. You can look at games that are released on nearly a yearly basis and see the massive difference in polish that they have compared to MGS.

 

[Spike]

And since 1998, he's only been directing MG games and that's a series he feels is best suited for the PS platform.

Make no mistake though, if Nintendo or Microsoft held the top-selling platform, then it would be best-suited for that system.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Make no mistake though, if Nintendo or Microsoft held the top-selling platform, then it would be best-suited for that system.

how is that any different from like 95% of the developers/publishers out there?

 

[SolidSnakex]

Couldn't he have another team handle the port? Or Kuju, perhaps? What are they doing with Konami, anyhow?

So people can just bitch about how he doesn't care about that platform?

 

[Spike]

how is that any different from like 95% of the developers/publishers out there?

It's not, that's just how it is.

 

[Ryudo]

That's your opinion, but certainly the polish does. You can look at games that are released on nearly a yearly basis and see the massive difference in polish that they have compared to MGS.

I dont buy yearly games but i know what you mean. There are a lot of details in the MGS series but there were more important aspects such as controls and camera that should have taken precident.

 

[Spike]

So people can just bitch about how he doesn't care about that platform?

They do that now, anyways. People are never satisfied.

But at least they'll get something and bitch, rather than get nothing and bitch.

 

[Lord Error]

because people really dig the splinter cell type games.

I think I would hesitate to even say that Splinter Cell is an "MGS type of game", given how different in every way but the basic premise they are. The oposite even less so.

Also the differences between 1, 2 and 3 hardly constitue 9 years of dev time.

They most definitely do. The games of that scale, dedication and meticulousness take time to put together. If it wasn't like that, you'd see a new Halo, MGS or Zelda every year.

There are a lot of details in the MGS series but there were more important aspects such as controls and camera that should have taken precident.

I'm thankful they didn't.

 

[SolidSnakex]

I dont buy yearly games but i know what you mean. There are a lot of details in the MGS series but there were more important aspects such as controls and camera that should have taken precident.

They aren't going to change the controls because for the majority of people, even those that didn't like the camera, its not a problem. And the camera is now 3rd person so that's not a problem either.

 

[Ryudo]

I think I would hesitate to even say that Splinter Cell is an "MGS type of game", given how different in every way but the basic premise they are. The oposite even less so.


They most definitely do. The games of that scale, dedication and meticulousness take time to put together. If it wasn't like that, you'd see a new Halo, MGS or Zelda every year.


I'm thankful they didn't.

Please dont split hairs. They are both Stealth / Action / Espionage games and i only used SC as a genre setting. I know damn well MGS was first and is better and more story orientated.

 

[Ryudo]

They aren't going to change the controls because for the majority of people, even those that didn't like the camera, its not a problem. And the camera is now 3rd person so that's not a problem either.

I will just antiquate this with the RE camera situation. They fixed it with 4.

Maybe in subsistence it wont be a problem.

 

[jett]

Actions speak louder than words. Had they have developed MGS3 for xbox as well they would have had massive sales in the US, EU, OC because people really dig the splinter cell type games.

Yeah, I'm sure the massive sales of Substance are very indicative of that...oh wait.

 

[Ryudo]

Yeah, I'm sure the massive sales of Substance are very indicative of that...oh wait.

Bad port .. years later. Hmm.

 

[Chrono]

Kojima should just focus on PS3, the most powerful next-gen hardware, and MGS4. And as for the camera in MGS games, I think it's the kind of thing you just get used to. I rarely thought about the camera during the second half of MGS (playing 2 this weekend w00t ). I never got used to the RE cameras though, those were way worse.

BTW, this is off-topic but if FFXIII is being developed separately than XII then does that mean a possible (early?) 2007 release or will that be too close to XII? God I hope not. I lost all excitement for XII now, just get that thing out already and talk about next-gen stuff.

 

[BigBoss]

Subsistence will have a 3D camera so there shoudn't be any more camera complaints and MGS4 will be using the same camera.

 

[SolidSnakex]

BTW, this is off-topic but if FFXIII is being developed separately than XII then does that mean a possible (early?) 2007 release or will that be too close to XII? God I hope not. I lost all excitement for XII now, just get that thing out already and talk about next-gen stuff.

It's possible since it is being developed by a different team (Kitase's). We probably won't hear anything about it till months after FFXII is released.

 

[Callo Merlose]

I had all the systems, but I had to start selling things off once I went through my savings. What was the first thing to go? My videogames. Why? Because games, in the greater scheme of things, are not a necessity. They're just a diversion.

So, before you go spouting off about how "real" gamers need to "save for each system", you should really ask yourself why they should need to own every system to be considered a "gamer". Just because someone doesn't have the time/inclination/money to own every system released, doesn't make him/her less of a "gamer" than you or me.

Actually, I have greater respect for those people who can limit themselves to one or two consoles, because they will most likely help decide the future of the industry. The ONE CONSOLE FUTURE!!

Sorry old man, didn't mean to step on your knickers. You're not a gamer, you're a family man. I don't like to limit myself when it comes to games, I suppose. I just think gamers shouldn't shun one system over another. To a "gamer," games are what matters, not a family man. There are certain games that should be played and if you can play them at a cousin's house, that's fine. It's not something I would do. Doesn't mean it's wrong, cheapo.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

If we don't get Subsistence until next year, I could imagine it being pushed back further to come out for 2 systems.

 

[Slurpy]

I'll go ahead and say that. Every gamer this generation should at least have a PS2 for at least 5 of its greatest games. It just comes down to either being biased or not. I call bullshit on not being able to afford other consoles after all these years. And it's a weak excuse to say that you don't like having more than one console.

I don't own, and have never owned a ps2 for that reason- there are TOO MANY games for it, including alot of quality ones. Its a coscious attempt to limit the time I spend on videogames (which isnt a whole lot). Owning a ps2 wouldn't be conducive to making that easier. Its not about finances, its about time and priorities. That being said, I borrowed one these past few days to play through mgs2 &3, and was blown away. I'm very tempted to pick up a pstwo- but I'll control myself, and will not.

 

[Matlock]

What I said could be interpreted as a little ignorant, but it's not as ridiculous as using that pitiful excuse of being a pity hungy poor kid that can only afford a single console. If you just recently got into gaming, then that's understandable. Being a gamer, I play games, not consoles. I had put a lttle on the side every now and then to save up for each system, but you might not be old enough to hold a real job. Like I said, if you're young, it's excusable, but buying games that are a third the price of a PS2 or xbox and then spiffing the idea that you're below the poverty line is just trash.

"Get a job."

You're being awfully goddamned highfalutin for a "girl" that works in a pizza parlor.

 

[_Angelus_]

Well I'd certainly welcome MGS3 for Xbox. If anything just to see Kojima redeem himself for the areas in MGS2 that weren't quite ironed out. I still don't consider it a lame port as some do. It had slowdown but wtf it wasn't like it was a terrible game.