MGSV - MB Coins pricing spotted on PSN
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Especially with all of the GOTY awards I am sure it will get, despite all of this shit.
SaveTheQueen
Banned
Err....57 dollars isn't even remotely better......
Stereogatari
Banned
I wonder what Kojima thinks of this.
MiamiWesker
Member
Well are people supposed to lie about how they feel about the game. I have been playing offline, I don't even had the option to speed things up through money and it is without a doubt by a mile the best game I have played this gen. So while this practice sucks, the game is still the best out there.
I agree, and therefore I don't buy games like this. I feel sorry for the developers who poured their hearts and souls into this only to have their creation sullied in this manner by their higher-ups (presumably), but I feel even more sorry for my wallet, and I'd feel like an idiot if I did.
NinjamicWZ
Banned
What if there was no online FOBs, just the one Mother Base, and you could only send so many of your units on missions anyway because it would leave the base empty otherwise, and just say "max units sent" rather than "build more bases" and it didn't matter because the amount of units performing missions was enough to support a single base rather than a set of FOBs that are also able to be attacked and plundered?
And you don't think some real timed based system would've been better designed without any micro transaction ?
checkeredknight
Member
I want to expand my Mother Base as much as I can. Does that mean I would have to spend hundreds of dollars?
If I can't get the same stuff by spending hours of playtime in-game, then I think this is BS. I love the game, and I want more, but I don't want to spend like $80. That's BS.
I want to expand my Mother Base as much as I can. Does that mean I would have to spend hundreds of dollars?
If I can't get the same stuff by spending hours of playtime in-game, then I think this is BS. I love the game, and I want more, but I don't want to spend like $80. That's BS.
Mother Base is completely separate from FOB. FOB is an online base, Mother Base is the offline base that you do not have to spend any real money on to develop. Just a lot of time... most likely.
Mufausa The 3rd
Member
That's why I'll be playing on PC and will be using TSearch for shit like this. Thank you very much Konami.
I am sure I will no doubt still have some fun with it because the gameplay and world looks outstanding. It just irks me that it had to be stained by such a skidmark that will probably make me enjoy it less than I normally would at a pace that is dictated by me.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
But you aren't supporting it if you don't use additional pay services!
Just because a certain number of "whales" may prop it up as an initiative, that only such a small proportion of the userbase is bothering *WILL* be noticed and understood as being indicative that this isn't an ideal approach to increasing ROI.
Throwing the baby out with the bathwater and not buying the product altogether because there are aspects of it you don't like sends a really mixed message. Its just not helpful, because if they lose money on the project, they aren't going to risk bankrolling another on the basis that by currying audience good-will that'll to make up the difference!
The fundamental issue is that you cant force publishers into making riskier business bets by boycotting their offerings. Its just going to push them into being even more conservative.
show me your skeleton
Member
cool. konami can go fuck themselves.
According to many on here, that's not strictly true, as you use your FOB's to send people on missions to earn mats to use for upgrades.
Yeah I've been reading some leaks just now, sounds pretty awesome.
checkeredknight
Member
Thanks. I'm totally OK with this. Love my Mother Base and want to expand it without having to expand my overdraft. <3
hammertomb
Banned
I'm in for eight dollars.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
Yep won't be buying any of those. I'm still not sure how they can justify the price of the top two packs being more than the actual game, no wonder Konami didn't want to talk about the price.
I did hear that when the servers go live tomorrow, an option will be added so you can use the GMP game currency to buy FOB upgrades too, but not sure if it's true or not. Hopefully it is true with the look of the MB Coin prices.
I did hear that when the servers go live tomorrow, an option will be added so you can use the GMP game currency to buy FOB upgrades too, but not sure if it's true or not. Hopefully it is true with the look of the MB Coin prices.
I want to expand my Mother Base as much as I can. Does that mean I would have to spend hundreds of dollars?
If I can't get the same stuff by spending hours of playtime in-game, then I think this is BS. I love the game, and I want more, but I don't want to spend like $80. That's BS.
Nah, I guess you can just grind those coins and resources for hundreds of hours instead...
SneakyStephan
Banned
Yes you very much are.
buying this game tells konami that they can put shit like this in singleplayer games and that people will still support the game regardless.
It tells them that they can try whatever monetisation crap they want and change their game design (MGS5 has en ENERGY SYSTEM, let that sink in!!!! your 60 dollar game has an energy system!) without people holding them accountable for it.
DLC started with horse armor, look where it is now...
microtransactions started with 'it doesn't affect the gameplay much and you can play without it'
Now many major AAA game seem to have an energy system
Are you happy going down this path? It's going to get ugly, uglier than you can possibly imagine, just like it did with DLC
Vyse The Legend
Member
Revven isn't 100% right. You need FOB's to expand the number of Combat Units you can send in single-player mode. These Combat Units are used to get resources and GMP to expand Mother Base.
It's real, for sure, but you have so many missions/side ops to do that you always playing and don't notice. It's definitely a slow grind to get the level 3 and 4 expansions for Mother Base.
Well it seems Konami won't be making traditional AAA games anymore after this. If anything they'll continue the PES series and focus on mobile as far as gaming goes.
You start out with one FOB for free, so you don't have to buy any additional FOBs unless you want to increase the amount of units you want to send out subsequently increasing the GMP and resources you get. So, if you don't care about how long it takes to get the resources and GMP then you don't have to spend a dime.
But if you want to get things quickly then yes you... will need to buy another FOB by the sounds of things.
BTHR Zero X
Member
So they are pulling an Ubisoft on this one it seems? shame really I do not like this kind of practice myself but oh well it maybe useful for some.
unpurposed
Member
Is this a viable option? I'm considering switching to PC from PS4 for this.
MiamiWesker
Member
Well it's pretty much identical to PW which had no microtransactions, the only change is the ops mission limitation. Have I once thought in my 25 hour playtime "man if I could just send out more teams I would love this game so much more" no, not once. There is a ton of shit to buy, don't buy it all. I have no need for a level 4 cardboard box for 150000gmp so that I can carry 2 more boxes, who cares. I have like 30 guns to develop, most I have no need for. For completion it will be a pain but to just play the game, never bothered me once.
RevengeOfDoh
Banned
It's only a matter of time until there's a "fix" to boost in-game currency for the pc vervion. The only caveat to that is how far Konami will go to eliminate it from their ecosystem. If you don't plan on playing online at all, then hacking the game doesn't matter.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if there was a "glitch" or dev backdoor to boost coins on console versions.
Reckless Onion
Member
Leaks about MGo? where?
Vyse The Legend
Member
To be clear to everyone worrying about what I've said in my posts, I fall into this camp with you.
I've not once felt like my enjoyment was being hampered in any way by the bottlenecks that they do have in place -- even though all my units are at max capacity with no solace in sight due to said bottlenecks.
More_Badass
Member
It will be interesting to see if hardcore players are any less susceptible to this than people who play mobile F2P
Will be interesting to see the stats
Will be interesting to see the stats
They most likely are as susceptible. I would be surprised if there were a vast discrepancy.
MiamiWesker
Member
To be clear to everyone worrying about what I've said in my posts, I fall into this camp with you.
I've not once felt like my enjoyment was being hampered in any way by the bottlenecks that they do have in place -- even though all my units are at max capacity with no solace in sight due to said bottlenecks.
My units are all at max too and I am waiting for resources to expand. But that doesn't mean all progress is stopped. Getting higher ranked units raised the levels so that is my focus and I have been leveling up a ton. Soon I will only have B ranks and above in my teams.
Coffee Dog
Banned
To be clear to everyone worrying about what I've said in my posts, I fall into this camp with you.
I've not once felt like my enjoyment was being hampered in any way by the bottlenecks that they do have in place -- even though all my units are at max capacity with no solace in sight due to said bottlenecks.
Yeah, this probably won't affect my enjoyment any more than it did in Peace Walker considering I'm going to be doing the majority of side ops and taking my time.
It's just terrible that we even have to have this conversation in what should be a game free of wacky monetization schemes.
Am I the odd one who doesn't think this is that big of a deal in this case?
It's not going to ruin my gameplay and none of the reviewers who got to play it had any issues completing the game without buying FOBs.
Are the prices insane? Yeah, but all that means is Konami just priced me out of ever buying any of them, rather than dipping my toe in to see if I feel it's worth it.
The game is not 'ruined' like some of you guys are making it sound. <_<
It's not going to ruin my gameplay and none of the reviewers who got to play it had any issues completing the game without buying FOBs.
Are the prices insane? Yeah, but all that means is Konami just priced me out of ever buying any of them, rather than dipping my toe in to see if I feel it's worth it.
The game is not 'ruined' like some of you guys are making it sound. <_<
jailbird20022
Banned
love how this comes to light just before launch too, Konami knew what was going on.
MMaRsu
Member
Yeah, this probably won't affect my enjoyment any more than it did in Peace Walker considering I'm going to be doing the majority of side ops and taking my time.
It's just terrible that we even have to have this conversation in what should be a game free of wacky monetization schemes.
you are still going to want more than 1 fob...
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
If all you care about is single-player mode, then you can simply ignore the FOB stuff. Hell I've been building my mother base just fine for the last 3 days despite the servers not even being up yet -i.e. functionally equivalent to being completely offline.
Game is still great, and based on just what I've played of it so far represents good value for money. I've had 20+ hours of top fun out of it already, and I'm barely half way through the campaign. Cant complain about that, sorry.
Bottom line: I'm not going to deny myself an enjoyable experience to make some kind of muddled point, and neither am I going to advocate for other people to indulge in what I see as a futile and misguided gesture. Boycotting is not going to change a damn thing.
RevengeOfDoh
Banned
The funny thing about the whole grinding thing doesn't even bother me that much anymore. 100+ hours on jrpgs isn't nothing new to me and after playing angry birds: transformers, I ain't paying for shit. My playtime is limited to maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky so bring it on Konami. Believe me, I can out-wait your shitty scheme to try and suck more money out of me.
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
This sucks, but the only thing that would actually kill the FOB system for me is if you couldn't modify your one "free" FOB after starting it. That, or making it so scuttling a FOB and starting over sometime later gets rid of your "free" one that you start with, and you have to pay to make any more. Basically if the "free" FOB is a one time offer, and once you've "used it" it's gone, that'd be fucked up. If instead there will always be a "free slot" for FOB expansion, which can be used whenever, forever, then I'd wouldn't be quite so disgusted with Konami.