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Michael Jackson's "This Is It" Concert coming to theaters Oct 30th

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gdt

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Memphis Reigns said:
Don't underestimate his fan base. Titanic's numbers have to be beaten some time, I think this is as good a candidate as any considering his worldwide fame. If he was still alive I never would have said that though.

I really hate to turn the thread into this.

But here we go.

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/cha...-of-the-2000s/

Chart Watch Extra: The Top 20 Album Sellers Of The 2000s
Posted Fri May 29, 2009 10:52am PDT by Paul Grein in Chart Watch

Eminem, who was born 2-1/2 years after the Beatles broke up, is the only artist who has sold more albums in this decade than the fabled foursome. Eminem's new album Relapse sold 608,000 copies this week, lengthening his lead as the artist who has sold the most albums in the 2000s. The rap superstar has sold 31,127,000 albums since the first week of January 2000. In second place: The Beatles, who have sold 27,591,000 albums in the same period. (That's not bad for a group that broke up in 1970.) The Beatles have done better in this decade relative to the competition than they did in the ‘90s, when they were the #5 album-selling act.

Only four of the top 20 album sellers of the 1990s also rank among the top 20 album sellers so far in the 2000s. The Fab Four is joined by Metallica, Alan Jackson and Celine Dion. Nielsen/SoundScan, which has tracked sales for Billboard since 1991, doesn't carry a list of the top album sellers of the 2000s on its site. But the information is all there, if you know where to look (and can do simple subtraction).

Garth Brooks and Mariah Carey, the top two album sellers of the 1990s, don't rank among the top 20 album sellers so far in the 2000s. Other ‘90s titans have slipped even more dramatically in this decade. Michael Bolton, who sold more than 20 million albums in the ‘90s, has sold just 1,809,000 albums since January 2000. Vince Gill, who sold more than 15.5 million albums in the ‘90s, has sold 2,825,000 albums in this decade. Yanni, R.E.M., Boyz II Men, Alanis Morissette, Billy Joel and Van Halen have each sold less than 5 million albums in this decade, also a far cry from their ‘90s tallies.

Seven of the top 20 album-selling acts so far in the 2000s are country, six are rock, four are pop and three are rap. This represents a big gain for rap (none of the top 20 acts of the 1990s were rap). Five of the top 20 acts first hit The Billboard 200 in this decade. Four others had charted in the 1990s, but didn't rank among Nielsen/SoundScan's top 200 artists of that decade. Thus, 9 of the top 20 artists so far in the 2000s registered in a big way only in this decade.

Here are the 20 acts that have sold the most albums since the first week of January 2000. The number immediately after the artist's name is the total number of albums that the artist has sold in this decade. I also identify when the artist first cracked The Billboard 200, and the title of their best-selling album since January 2000.

1. Eminem, 31,127,000. First charted: 1999. Eminem, 36, is the top male artist and the top rap artist so far in this decade. His 2000 album The Marshall Mathers LP is his best-seller. It has sold 10,178,000 copies.

2. The Beatles, 27,591,000. First charted: 1964. The Beatles have sold more albums in the 2000s than any other group, rock act or foreign act. Their 2000 compilation 1 is their best-seller. It has sold 11,402,000 copies. The Beatles were the #5 album-selling act of the 1990s.

3. Tim McGraw, 24,295,000. First charted: 1994. McGraw, 42, is the #1 country artist so far in the 2000s, nosing out Toby Keith. McGraw was the #38 album-selling act of the ‘90s. His 2000 compilation Greatest Hits is his best-selling album of the decade. It has sold 5,995,000 copies.

4. Toby Keith, 24,189,000. First charted: 1993. Keith, 47, is the #2 country artist of this decade. His 2003 album Shock'n Y'All is his best-seller. It has sold 4,420,000 copies.

5. Britney Spears, 22,937,000. First charted: 1999. Spears, 27, is the youngest artist on this list, edging out Josh Groban by one year. She is also #1 female artist in this decade. Her 2000 album, Oops!...I Did It Again, is her best-seller of the decade. It has sold 9,183,000 copies. Spears was the #108 album-selling act of the ‘90s.

6. Kenny Chesney, 21,396,000. First charted: 1996. Chesney, 41, is the #3 country artist of this decade. His best-selling album is 2004's When The Sun Goes Down, which has sold 4,111,000 copies.

7. Nelly, 21,206,000. First charted: 2000. Nelly, 34, is the #1 new artist to emerge in this decade, edging out Linkin Park. He's also the #1 African American artist, edging out Jay-Z, and the #2 rap artist. Nelly's 2000 debut, Country Grammar, is his best-selling album. It has sold 8,454,000 copies.

8. Linkin Park, 21,125,000. First charted: 2000. Linkin Park is the #2 rock group of the decade, behind the Beatles. It's also the #2 new artist. The band's 2000 debut album, Hybrid Theory, is its best-seller. It has sold 9,600,000 copies.

9. Creed, 20,398,000. First charted: 1997. Creed is the #3 rock group of the decade. 1999's Human Clay is the band's best-selling album. It has sold 9,480,000 copies since January 2000. Creed was the #167 album-selling act of the ‘90s.

10. Jay-Z, 19,379,000. First charted: 1996. Jay-Z, 39, is the #3 rap artist of the decade. 2003's The Black Album is his best-selling album of this decade. It has sold 3,338,000 copies. Jay-Z was the #152 album-selling act of the ‘90s.

11. Nickelback, 19,158,000. First charted: 2000. The Canadian group is the #2 foreign act of this decade (after the Beatles). Nickelback is also the #3 new artist and the #4 rock group. 2005's All The Right Reasons is its best-seller, with sales of 7,159,000 copies.

12. Josh Groban, 19,115,000. First charted: 2001. Groban, 28, is the #1 pop male artist of this decade. He's the #4 new artist. The pop/classical star's 2003 album Closer is his best-seller, with sales of 5,746,000 copies.

13. Rascal Flatts, 18,831,000. First charted: 2000. The trio is the #1 country group of this decade, nosing out Dixie Chicks. It's also the #5 new act. 2004's Feels Like Today is the act's best-selling album. It has sold 5,134,000 copies.

14. Metallica, 18,490,000. First charted: 1984. Metallica is the #1 hard rock act of the decade (unless you count the genre-bending Linkin Park). The band's 1991 blockbuster Metallica is the band's best-selling album of this decade. It has sold 3,691,000 copies since January 2000. Metallica was the #3 album-selling act of the ‘90s.

15. Alan Jackson, 18,479,000. First charted: 1990. Jackson, 50, is the oldest solo artist on this list, edging out Toby Keith. 2002's Drive is his best-selling album of this decade. It has sold 3,508,000 copies. Jackson was the #17 album-selling act of the ‘90s.

16. *NSYNC, 18,402,000. First charted: 1998. The boy band is the #1 pop group of this decade (assuming you classify the Beatles as rock). *NSYNC's 2000 album No Strings Attached is its best-seller, with sales of 11,111,000 copies. The quintet was the #80 album-selling act of the ‘90s.

17. Dixie Chicks, 18,293,000. First charted: 1998. The female trio is the #2 country group so far in this decade. 2002's Home is the act's best-selling album of this decade. It has sold 5,997,000 copies. Dixie Chicks was the #105 album-selling act of the ‘90s.

18. Johnny Cash, 17,860,000. First charted: 1958. The country legend, who died in 2003 at age 71, is the most surprising name on the list. He made it on the strength of an enormous catalog and a renewed focus on him after his death. His 1999 compliation 16 Greatest Hits is his best-seller of the decade. It has sold 2,846,000 copies since January 2000.

19. Kid Rock, 17,606,000. First charted: 1999. Kid Rock, 38, is the #1 male rock artist of this decade. Kid's 2001 album Cocky is his best-seller of the decade. It has sold 5,045,000 copies.

20. Celine Dion, 17,579,000. First charted: 1991. The Canadian diva, 41, is the #2 pop female artist of this decade, behind Britney Spears. Dion's 1999 greatest hits album, All The Way...A Decade Of Song, is her best-seller in the decade. It has sold 4,971,000 copies since January 2000. Dion was the #4 album-selling act of the ‘90s.

The Fine Print: Artists who emerged very early in the decade stood a much better chance of making this list than artists who emerged later on. Sales peaked around 2000, and have been dropping since about 2004. So it's hard for even the hottest acts of recent years to compete with the stunning sales totals from the turn of the last decade.

Also, when I refer to the best-selling artists of the ‘90s, I'm referring to the period from May 25, 1991, when Nielsen/SoundScan began tracking sales for Billboard, through the last week of 1999.

I highlight the Beatles to show real longevity. Lets face it, Michael was all but dead career wise (though I admit those shows were gonna be big), and the boost of Michael popularity won't last forever. He wasn't some commercial dynamo before he died (again, those London show would've been huge though).

Will the movie do well in theatres? I don't know (kinda doubt it to be honest). Will it do great in DVD/BRD? Hell yes. I'm a bit baffled to see it released in theaters actually.
 

mosaic

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Add me to the side that says this'll clean up in theaters. Everybody is gaga about MJ again, and that won't have died down by Halloween. That sympathy will still be going strong come Fall. Plus, if he even performs Thriller in that performance... come on, it's coming out right before HALLOWEEN!
 

Ollie Pooch

In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
given he barely sang any of his stuff live in later tours (if at all), i very much doubt any of this will be live vocals.
 

Noshino

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gdt5016 said:
I really hate to turn the thread into this.

But here we go.

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/cha...-of-the-2000s/



I highlight the Beatles to show real longevity. Lets face it, Michael was all but dead career wise (though I admit those shows were gonna be big), and the boost of Michael popularity won't last forever. He wasn't some commercial dynamo before he died (again, those London show would've been huge though).


But I could have sworn there were more factors involved on the high sales....as a matter of fact, wasn't it one of the first Beatles compilations on CD?
 

gdt

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Noshino said:
But I could have sworn there were more factors involved on the high sales....as a matter of fact, wasn't it one of the first Beatles compilations on CD?

Oh yes. Number Ones sold IIRC 11 million copies in the US alone. I don't really see what that has to do with it though...

Micheal had a couple of compilations in those years.

Edit: They were also (as you can see in the article) place 5th during the 90's. Don't know where Michael was on that list. Though I'm sure he's on it.
 

NYR

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Memphis Reigns said:
I could be completely wrong here but if any movie were to bring in as much cash worldwide as Titanic did, maybe more, this movie would be it.
Worst prediction in the history of neogaf. Dear god.
 

Noshino

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gdt5016 said:
Oh yes. Number Ones sold IIRC 11 million copies in the US alone. I don't really see what that has to do with it though...

Micheal had a couple of compilations in those years.

Edit: They were also (as you can see in the article) place 5th during the 90's. Don't know where Michael was on that list. Though I'm sure he's on it.


What Im trying to say is that there were many things going on for the record that helped it achieve such numbers. CD, improved quality, etc. I'm pretty sure it must have had good advertisement as they always tend to do. On top of that, The Beatles had, and still have, a clean public record.

Jackson's record in the other hand, wasn't. His public image was through the floor. Now that he has passed away, his image has revitalized.

The movie could be big, but until we see any of the edited footage + advertising campaign, it is really hard to tell
 

dskillzhtown

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Formless said:
Maybe it'll be documentary style? I'd probably prefer it that way, unless they went all out with the rehearsals.


The documentary will be shown on Fox or NBC. This will be a "concert movie" withthe DVD and blu-ray released in November.

My prediction is that the DVD and blu-ray will sell a ton, but the movie in theaters will flop.
 

Ollie Pooch

In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
NYR said:
Worst prediction in the history of neogaf. Dear god.

yeah, i LOL'd. at work.

this whole thing is such a tasteless money grab, while the sentiment is still high.
i doubt many will pay to go see it - dvd and bluray might be another story, though.
 
I heard this earlier and couldn't be more excited. I will see this so many times in theaters.

gdt5016 said:
Will the movie do well in theatres? I don't know (kinda doubt it to be honest). Will it do great in DVD/BRD? Hell yes. I'm a bit baffled to see it released in theaters actually.

You really have doubt on this one?
 

Docpan

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Depending on how they present this, it COULD be a fantastic movie-going experience.

The power of a live MJ concert with a crowd of fellow fans.... And front-row seats to boot? I'm sure this is going to be a big-budget production. They will cut out the director's talking, implement the 3d effects (Dome Project), and clean up any errors.

Can't wait!!!!!
 

PacoDG

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This will bring in huge numbers based on bringing out older folks who probably don't go to theaters anymore mixed in with those who are regular movie goers. I think it'll hit Titanic numbers easy.

If for whatever reason it is not, the dvd/bluray will definitely be through the roof.
 

-COOLIO-

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ViperVisor said:
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you just know this is how he walked into heaven.
 

zero_suit

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PacoDG said:
This will bring in huge numbers based on bringing out older folks who probably don't go to theaters anymore mixed in with those who are regular movie goers. I think it'll hit Titanic numbers easy.

If for whatever reason it is not, the dvd/bluray will definitely be through the roof.

right...
 

gdt

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jonnybryce said:
I heard this earlier and couldn't be more excited. I will see this so many times in theaters.



You really have doubt on this one?

Absofrickinglutely.

Just as an example.

Wikipedia said:
Shine A Light

Directed by Martin Scorsese

Release date(s) April 4, 2008

Running time 122 min.

Country United States

Language English

Budget $1,000,000

Gross revenue $13,943,404

The DVD moved 50,115 copies during the first week in US. It has sold 132,886 by August 14, 2008

This is a documentary on the Stones during the A Bigger Bang Tour

Wikipedia said:
The Rolling Stones' A Bigger Bang Tour was a worldwide concert tour which took place between August 2005 and August 2007, in support of their album A Bigger Bang. The group played over 130 different songs on it. It has become the highest grossing tour of all time with $558,255,524 earned.

Obviously they had some fans around. Concert movies just don't do real business. They just don't.

The reason this Jackson one might is because of the public interest in him since his death. Is that interest enough for the public to actually go see this movie (in a theater) in droves?

I doubt it.

I do think DVD/BRD sales would be high though.
 

Noshino

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gdt5016 said:
The reason this Jackson one might is because of the public interest in him since his death. Is that interest enough for the public to actually go see this movie (in a theater) in droves?

I doubt it.


Wikipedia said:
The film opened in wide release on March 21, 1997 (1,850 theaters) and sales the opening weekend were $11,615,722. Selena ran for 15 weeks domestically (101 days) and eventually grossed $35,422,828 in the United States. The film sales worldwide were considerably more. At its widest release the film was shown in 1,873 screens. The production budget of the film was approximately $20,000,000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selena_(film)

Less known star, smaller market, 2 years after her death....


Will the movie be successful? Very likely

Will the movie be bigger than Titanic? Don't think so
 

PSGames

Junior Member
Wow at the yahoos in here saying MJ isn't relevant anymore. Come on now. :lol

And as for comparing him to the Beatles:

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Rewrite

Not as deep as he thinks
Wow. I just read about this. Interesting indeed. I think I'll go and see it the day it comes out.

Also, where can you get those Thriller shirts? They look fucking awesome.
 

DieselRainbow

Neo Member
Absolutley Day 1 for me!
I had tickets to see him at the O2 for the 28th July so if this is the closest thing I'll ever get to see of him, I'm so there!
Still can't really believe he's gone.
Now I know what all those people feel when they say "I remember where I was when Elvis died" etc. He is a true legend for my generation! R.I.P MJ
 
Wasn't the pic of Jackson on the first post confirmed to be Photoshopped as they forgot to remove the black between his legs?
 

Gabroni

Banned
While I must attend this concert---it pains me to think there are directors circling Micheal's grave to see who will get to do his biographical movie ):
 
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