yea I think a lot of people throwing fits over this news are going to be very surprised when big titles on BOTH PS4 and Durango require an online connection....
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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online
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yea I think a lot of people throwing fits over this news are going to be very surprised when big titles on BOTH PS4 and Durango require an online connection....
I think the Kaz gifs need to be redone to remove the PlayStation meeting notice so they make for better general use...
Oh man I need to watch The Departed again...such a good movie. Amazing gifs. Love the Mission Impossible one too.
Voice of Reason
Banned
My favorite Sunhi GIF by far.
nothing from polygon? shocking
Sir Garbageman
Member
Off the top of my head:
DRM to try and prevent / reduce piracy
Increased opportunity to sell digital content, DLC, services, etc.
Guaranteed viewing for their ads
Basically a whole bunch of anti-consumer BS.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
This thread is legendary and this meme is hilarious.
Impeccable
Member
The Departed.
vagabondarts
Member
Somewhere J. Allard is laughing while biking downhill through the forest...
"Immersive"
CassidyIzABeast
Member
That would be a dumb reason to lock out legit consumers but I guess that's what makes it plausible. *sigh* The Nextbox announcement event thread will be glorious.
That's the box itself. Specific games could. Capcom had always on PSN titles on the PS3 years ago.
cartoon_soldier
Member
I think there is a difference between games requiring it vs. the console requiring it.
Really? I think there would be mass revolt and riots if they tried that here.
You've posted a number of comments in regards to PS+ and you seemingly have no idea how it works. Downloaded games from PS+ are tied to your subscription, your subscription tells the games when they run out, once you have "puchased" a "free" game that initial time and it is linked to your account you can download it, when that happens it checks to see when it can no longer be played, that is it then, it will work offline until your subscription runs out.
We are really, in the grand scheme of things we aren't the people that make up the bulk of a consoles sales that the likes of the PS1/2, DS, etc. end up doing.
What we are is the "core" gamer, we are the ones that will pick up these consoles within their initial release period regardless of price most of the time, while the more casual audience was buying Wii's we were the ones buying PS3s and Xbox 360s, we are the ones at the end of the day that these companies need to convince to pick up their devices to keep them going when they launch and the masses haven't decided to pick them up yet.
Look what happened with Nintendo, they managed to really sell the Wii to a more casual audience and to put it bluntly, kind of forgot about us that had been buying their previous consoles even when they weren't doing well. Now what has happened, the WiiU isn't a run away train like the Wii was, and their old core audience isn't as interested as it once was in picking up their console.
Opus Angelorum
Member
What if the actual game does though?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Well.................had a conversation with a regular friend who has talked about this stuff here and there. This online thing sounds like it is more legit than not based on the short talk I just had.
Impeccable
Member
I personally will boycott those games. I'm sure others will consider that too.
Hypereides
Gold Member
It appears he just found out that there's an actual disadvantage to be online. He might have to start thinking twice about that console feature.
Specific games requiring online is alot different from the system requiring online for all games.
That's becoming the standard given that mobile is taking over.
That's what I've been saying. In order to pull this off they must have the support. They would need loads of exclusive games, DLC, and features for it to work.
Sony people must be rubbing their hands laughing at all this clusterfuck.
Delusibeta
Banned
The joys of the free market: monopolies everywhere.
Tylahedras
Banned
You guys should calm down, this is clearly the only way to prevent hackers and cheaters in online games, that it stops pirates and terrorism is just a plus.
Miles Quaritch
Member
This still happens? I thought they simply throttled the service should the user exceed their cap? I haven't heard of any ISP charging for exceeding their data cap in quite some time.
Can Crusher
Banned
Oh I'm already excited. Weaker hardware, mandatory online, mandatory Kinect, bloated OS, focus on services...all with a smile on their faces.
It's gonna be a crazy day here at GAF.
Don't be like that, the guy is just a cog in the wheel. This is all on MS, he doesn't deserve to get fired.
If you see a lot of smoke, and it smells like something's burning...there's probably a fire.
Maximilian E.
AKA MS-Evangelist
The funny thing is... everything would be forgiven/forgotten if MS would announce a more powerful system than Sony (2-3 TFLOP system)..
So come on now MS, fix this by announcing a 2-3 TFLOP system...
or a bag of cash for every person buying Durango
funny thread and dimwit MS guy is in a whole heep of trouble now..
So come on now MS, fix this by announcing a 2-3 TFLOP system...
or a bag of cash for every person buying Durango
funny thread and dimwit MS guy is in a whole heep of trouble now..
True, but it won't happen.The funny thing is... everything would be forgiven/forgotten if MS would announce a more powerful system than Sony (2-3 TFLOP system)..
So come on now MS, fix this by announcing a 2-3 TFLOP system...
or a bag of cash..
funny thread and dimwit MS guy is in a whole heep of trouble now..
the system won't but the games can if they choose too and if this is what Publishers want then that's what they can do and it won't matter what system you have
CassidyIzABeast
Member
I think it would be more of a verification thing. Would take as much bandwidth as the initial sign in to live does.
I don't get how this adds up for MS. At first I thought the majority of their sales were made in Europe and US but it's less than half of that.
Out of 77 million xboxs sold since Jan 1 this year, 44 million are sold outside of the US and EU. Many of these countries aren't highly connected at all. Even the richest people in many of these countries have to deal with spotty connections because the infrastructure worldwide is just that bad.
MS may be a global company but if their strategy is to replace DVRs and set top boxes all over the world I just can't see how they are going to compete with other devices in these countries.
Out of 77 million xboxs sold since Jan 1 this year, 44 million are sold outside of the US and EU. Many of these countries aren't highly connected at all. Even the richest people in many of these countries have to deal with spotty connections because the infrastructure worldwide is just that bad.
MS may be a global company but if their strategy is to replace DVRs and set top boxes all over the world I just can't see how they are going to compete with other devices in these countries.
FonkyByNature
Member
Flawless ! I'm dying in LOL here...
Congratulations. You have shown that 18 out of 1558 "boycotting" users bought Modern Warfare 2 after the fact.
I'm not sure what that's supposed to prove, but okay.
The funny thing is... everything would be forgiven/forgotten if MS would announce a more powerful system than Sony (2-3 TFLOP system)..
So come on now MS, fix this by announcing a 2-3 TFLOP system...
or a bag of cash for every person buying Durango
funny thread and dimwit MS guy is in a whole heep of trouble now..
I know I wouldn't, but I do see some people would, which is quite sad. :/
perhaps intellectually, but next year if all the big publishing players and devs decide its best for them it won't matter, we will all be dealing with their DRM
I seriously doubt MS would do this without knowing what the publishers are planning
With always on you can be sure games can´t be played before it gets activated on Launch Day. So on every major release like CoD, Fifa, Halo, BF etc. there will be million players hitting the server at the exact same moment. And as a PC player you know how bad this ends, just the whole Xblive will get Error37.
That's what I was thinking. This is real....real sad.
You're right but Sony is a publisher too. And if their hardware doesn't have that requirement, I also expect their software to not have it. There will be third parties that will try to include that requirement (Ubi/Watch Dogs), others won't, and others will take a wait-and-see approach to then decide on what is most advantageous for their business.
I'm mainly going off what I was noticing where I live now. Perhaps because AT&T is the only other provider where I live now other than a regional one, AT&T were using their mobile standards for their ISP services?
I'm glad to hear that's not the case in the majority.
Interfectum
Member
Twitter has to be one of the greatest / worst inventions for mankind. It's amazing how many people (potentially) throw away their careers to post stupid bullshit on their Twitter account.
"You dont turn the Xbox on, the Xbox turns YOU on!"
Omegasquash
Member
I think the Kaz gifs need to be redone to remove the PlayStation meeting notice so they make for better general use...
This is brilliant.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
That was the point ...