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[iapetus]

I mean, who the hell thought it would be a good idea to make sure you can't install XP on a modern (SATA) motherboard without an antiquated removable storage device and an existing running copy of Windows?

Retards.

 

[Polari]

Come, join us.

http://www.debian.org

 

[Smiles and Cries]

sorry for the succinct reply

but yes they do suck

 

[iapetus]

Come, join us.

http://www.debian.org

I'm returning to the land of dual boot now that my PC is up to gaming spec. I shall be using Gentoo for my Linux needs, though - what's the point of having a blisteringly fast processor if you're not going to use it to compile everything?

 

[Polari]

I'm returning to the land of dual boot now that my PC is up to gaming spec. I shall be using Gentoo for my Linux needs, though - what's the point of having a blisteringly fast processor if you're not going to use it to compile everything?

Good man.

 

[SKluck]

A) Download drivers for your SATA Controller or Motherboard SATA Controller to a floppy.

B) When you boot from the windows cd, know where it says "Hit the button for 3rd party SCSI/whatever controllers"? Hit The button.

Problem solved.

 

[iapetus]

A) Download drivers for your SATA Controller or Motherboard SATA Controller to a floppy.

B) When you boot from the windows cd, know where it says "Hit the button for 3rd party SCSI/whatever controllers"? Hit The button.

Problem solved.

Duh. Of course, this pre-supposes that I have a floppy drive in the PC (fortunately I decided to add one to my new PC at the last minute, despite them being just about obsolete) and that I have an existing Windows machine to write the floppy on (the drivers coming as an executable that needs to be run to create the driver floppy). The suckage is at the Microsoft/motherboard vendor end, not mine.

 

[SKluck]

No doubt, but who heard of SATA in 2002?

The real kicker is that for the install with SP2 integrated you still have to go with the floppy.

 

[Diablos]

No doubt, but who heard of SATA in 2002?

The real kicker is that for the install with SP2 integrated you still have to go with the floppy.

:lol I know.
The only reason why I still keep my floppy drive attached to the board is so that I can install the Silicon Image SATA driver during Windows setup :lol

 

[iapetus]

Yup, I'm using the SP2 install disc. Still, all seems to be running now, and chugging through 3DMark 2005 at about 10fps.

 

[AB 101]

The real kicker is that for the install with SP2 integrated you still have to go with the floppy.

The sad part of this whole thing is that you still have to use a floppy drive in 2005.

 

[Monk]

Can't you boot off the cd?

 

[Diablos]

Yes, but it doesn't have SATA drivers. So if you are using nothing but a SATA drive, setup doesn't find anything to install Windows to.

I remember reading a way to modify your slipstreamed Windows XP SP2 CD to detect the SATA driver, but that's retarded. You should never have to do that. Hell, most Linux distros now detect SATA out of the box.

 

[Bregor]

Supposedly one of the features that Longhorn will include is a GUI micro-OS on the install CD that is used when installing or repairing Windows.

 

[Suikoguy]

There is susposed to be a way to rewrite the windows CD with the drivers on it already, so you don't have to do it with a stupid floppy disk. Having a SATA drive and a floppy drive, i've not investigated, yet.

 

[Shogmaster]

I've installed 2 systems so far on SATA drives with just the XP install CD and no floppy. WHat the hell are you guys doing wrong? @_o

 

[goodcow]

I've installed 2 systems so far on SATA drives with just the XP install CD and no floppy. WHat the hell are you guys doing wrong? @_o

I installed XP on my RAPTOR drive without any problems as well.

 

[Error Macro]

Some motherboards can report SATA drives as IDE drives to Windows, so maybe that's what is happening there.

 

[sprsk]

repost this thread in the gaming forum

 

[tedtropy]

Yep, it is ridiculous that the XP setup STILL requires a fricken' floppy for certain SCSI and RAID configurations. It's a modern OS and it needs to act like it...

 

[Diablos]

Some motherboards can report SATA drives as IDE drives to Windows, so maybe that's what is happening there.

That's what I'm gonna guess. Shog and goodcow - what mobos do you have? I use the almost ancient A7N8X Deluxe Revision 1.04 (yeah, I know.)

 

[metsallica]

Depends on the motherboard. I have no floppy drive, only SATA hard drives, and installed just fine.

Edit: And I'm apparently not the only one! For the record, I'm running a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum.

 

[Shogmaster]

That's what I'm gonna guess. Shog and goodcow - what mobos do you have? I use the almost ancient A7N8X Deluxe Revision 1.04 (yeah, I know.)

One was Intel 865PERL with WD SATA drive, and another was a Asus A8V Deluxe Via K8T800 Pro mobo with Seagate SATA drive.

 

[dem]

I have an asus a8v and i needed to use the floppy for drivers...

 

[iapetus]

Mine was a Gigabyte GA-K8N Ultra-9 SKT939 NFORCE4 PCI-E DDR400. Needed the drivers.

 

[Shogmaster]

I have an asus a8v and i needed to use the floppy for drivers...

Maybe it because I had a Win XP disc with SP2 in it? Also installed XP Media Center on another A8V and no floppy was needed. Both of install discs was bought after SP2. Maybe this is the key.

 

[iapetus]

Not in and of itself: I installed a SP2 version of XP. Home edition, if that makes a difference.

 

[goodcow]

That's what I'm gonna guess. Shog and goodcow - what mobos do you have? I use the almost ancient A7N8X Deluxe Revision 1.04 (yeah, I know.)

13-127-152
MB i875P|5P1A4D IC7-G MAXII ABIT RT
1
$135.00
$135.00
Abit (510)-623-0500

 

[Diablos]

Must be it. If you manually slipstream SP2 I guess it doesn't integrate SATA.
Lame.
Even when I wanna do a Windows *repair* it needs the damn floppy.

 

[Borys]

Yup, I'm using the SP2 install disc. Still, all seems to be running now, and chugging through 3DMark 2005 at about 10fps.

10 fps in 3DMark2005 is not that bad. Only the $3000 PCs get more than 30...

Still you can't argue that it's damn pretty. I love the fairy forest and the new proxycon (looks like CG). Sea serpent is just so-so.

 

[iapetus]

10 fps in 3DMark2005 is not that bad. Only the $3000 PCs get more than 30...

Yeah, guess I'll have to get 3DMark 2004 if I want to feel good about my frame rates. Racked up 3.5k on the test overall, which probably isn't too bad for a cheap PC.

 

[metsallica]

My install was with XP Pro SP1, so again it's just down to the motherboard.