UFC maintains that any champion is expected to accept fights against the top contenders in their respective weight classes in order to maintain the integrity of the sport.
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UFC maintains that any champion is expected to accept fights against the top contenders in their respective weight classes in order to maintain the integrity of the sport.
Sato Koiji
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At this point Cormiers and Jons drawing power are questionable. They added 2 championship fights for that card to make sure this one was a hit. Smart move.
Oh and Woodley/Thompson 2 drew 200k buys btw. He better does what Dana tells him to do.
Miocic/Santos 2 300k. DC/AJ 2 300k.
They need to reschedule Alvarez/Poirier and make it a fight night or something. Or co-main PPV.
Oh and Woodley/Thompson 2 drew 200k buys btw. He better does what Dana tells him to do.
Miocic/Santos 2 300k. DC/AJ 2 300k.
They need to reschedule Alvarez/Poirier and make it a fight night or something. Or co-main PPV.
Sounds like none of these guys are drawing much outside of the hardcore 150-300k buyers
Jest Chillin
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This has been the norm for years. Only a handful of personalities pull more than 500k on any normal basis. And most of them are old and retired or may as well be retired.
Ninja Scooter
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Lol @ Dana throwing his own champ under the bus like that.
I've always been a DJ fan and defended him but I still don't understand why he didn't take the TJ fight.
Jest Chillin
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Because he knows that TJ is more of a threat than Borg. MM's title defense streak is really one of the only big marketing stances he can hang his hat on. If he secures the all-time record, that's major and unlikely to be broken for a long time.
TJ is too big a risk to spoil that.
SwipeLeftHoney
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Ya I agree. I think he wanted to secure the record first before moving up weight classes taking on tougher talent. I think once he has the record he'll entertain whomever wants to fight for the belt or even superfights with whomever.
That's exactly what I think, too. There's no excuse other than fear.
juliushandle
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DJ askin for low money fights.
Maybe he thinks his Twitch subs will pick up the slack?
Ninja Scooter
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I sort of get DJ's position. Prime earning potential is fleeting in MMA so you have to get paid when you can, but the TJ fight is the closest thing he could have gotten to a high profile fight. TJ isn't some megastar, but being on TUF and his feud with Cody has certainly raised his profile. Win that, and then you can put yourself in a position to ask for a bigger payday.
SwipeLeftHoney
Banned
He was planning on fighting Cody once he broke the record. They had something in the works before Cody got hurt. The plan was once he disposed of TJ that he would move down weight and fight Mighty Mouse.
RBelong2Us
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Im of the mind set that even Hendo deserved his title shot more than Ray Borg deserves one.
DJ blew a big opportunity to make a name for himself.
He could have made history defending his belt for the most consecutive times while also beating a former-champ / title contender with a bigger name than any of his previous 10 opponents.
Guy is talking about marketing when he fails to get out of his own way.
He could have made history defending his belt for the most consecutive times while also beating a former-champ / title contender with a bigger name than any of his previous 10 opponents.
Guy is talking about marketing when he fails to get out of his own way.
It's annoying because I always said the UFC could do more to market him, and then they offer him a golden opportunity. He turns it down.
No more excuses left for DJ.
I'm willing to bet they did that encase Jon falls out again. The UFC brass are probably sweating that might happen again
Sato Koiji
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Ironic that the title defense record means so much to him that even if he gets it no one will really care for DJ.
Of course. Always sweating bullets with Jonny boy.
Of course. Always sweating bullets with Jonny boy.
Is DC/Jones the Co-main? Because I remember Dana being VERY ADAMANT about the fact that Jones will never be the Main event of a card.
Also I just saw that Travis Browne is fighting Oleksiy Oliynyk who holds the record for most Ezekiel choke wins in MMA. THAT would be an amazing way for Browne to go out and over to Bellator.
He said that, but it's a main event fight. DC said he wont co-main that fight for anyone but Conor.
RBelong2Us
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Manuwa is on the card as backup
Decided to make the leap of faith and give him the main event, because Dana and Jon both know if he pulls out for any reason this time he's cut and done in the UFC forever. This is the make or break moment.
Sato Koiji
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Wow. Now I wanna see Jon pull out only to see the Dana interview after.
Rumblebones
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People still shitting on DJ after he made his chase? smh, corporate cheerleaders.
Cool narrative.
The reality is most of us were just talking about DJ blowing a big opportunity to make fans and/ or be more marketable.
He can have his morals and make his own decision, and I still respect his decision.
But the world isn't black and white. So just because you don't agree with his decision, it doesn't mean you're siding with the UFC.
biosnake20
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DJ did offer to take the fight if he was guaranteed his and TJ's show money if TJ missed weight.
Jest Chillin
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Guaranteed his money, TJ's money, AND the fight would be called off. Which I've never heard of ever happening before. He knew that "request" was outlandish as hell and would never get greenlit when he made it.
#staywoke
Maklershed
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If you look at a dollar bill - the top of the pyramid is separated from the rest and this is to represent head moooment.
Just read this. Don't fuck with the UFC.
I always said Mighty Mouse was killing the division, but I wasn't being quite this literal.
Have fun being the "GOAT" somewhere in Singapore, breh.
It's a shame because MM is insanely talented and is arguably the P4P #1. I actually get pretty excited to watch His fights just to see his technical mastery but if you're not bringing in money and publicly shaming the organization you work for on top of that, you can't really expect them to give in to your demands.
140 - 150 - 165 - 180 - 200-240 HW - 240+ is my ideal scenario going forward. If they have the talent to fill the divisions of course.
140 - 150 - 165 - 180 - 200-240 HW - 240+ is my ideal scenario going forward. If they have the talent to fill the divisions of course.
biosnake20
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Even if they sell the division MM will probably just go back up to 135 and stay in the UFC. After he breaks the title defense record of course.
Jest Chillin
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He's not likely to see the same success at 135.
I think it was mentioned on UFC Unfiltered by someone that they were thinking about closing it down or something.
Yea. DJ said they threatened it, but Dana said on the podcast that it has been under consideration for a while due to a lack of draw.
Jmanunknown
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DJ at 135 at still a really good fighter. Back when he was a Bantamweight fighter the only two guys ranked ahead of him were Faber and Cruz despite being at a big size disadvantage. His speed would give fighters at 135 nightmares.
Jest Chillin
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Cruz gave him nightmares and he barely got past Uncle Creepy. He's improved but so has the 135 division. A division where Cruz made everyone look like fools in the past now has two more guys at equal level or better than Cruz in TJ and Cody. MM's gas tank does well at135 and he's still fast but he's going to be on the losing end of physical strength. Bantam is also a deeper division with more experienced fighters. It's just not going to be as smooth a path as 125 was.
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