Mom jailed for fraudulently sending her kids to safe school
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hyduK said:
If it's anything like the schools around here, there's a HUGE disparity in the quality and opportunities of each school in the city, even though they're only a few miles apart.
They range from having an entire McDonalds inside the school building to what amounts to a minimum security prison, and the minimum security prison type school isn't even the Alternative Education one. And they're within 20 minutes of each other.
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hyduK said:
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Get out.
Mama Robotnik
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I missed this story first time round. Glad at least some resolution has been achieved in that her felony was downgraded to a misdemeanour, but the whole situation stinks to hell:
-Who gave consent for the school to use taxpayers money to hire a private detective to follow this woman? How much did they spend? How many times have they done this?
-Of the forty cases for which this happened, why was this woman the only one charged? Why was she charged so severely?
-By what right does a Judge have to purposely sabotage the mother's future career prospects as an overt part of his sentence? (''Because of the felony conviction, you will not be allowed to get your teaching degree under Ohio law as it stands today,'' the judge said. ''The court's taking into consideration that is also a punishment that you will have to serve.''"). The fact that the Judge actively sought to destroy future opportunities for her is not justice, its an act of cruelty. Especially given the actual "crime" committed.
-Have the parole board notes ever been published? Does the US have a UK-style Freedom of Information act that would require their disclosure?
-Why couldn't a single person just look at the mother's motives for protecting her children, and just apply a bit of common sense?
-As a broader issues, I had no idea that parents couldn't choose schools in the USA.
The whole situation is offensive to the point of being sickening.
-Who gave consent for the school to use taxpayers money to hire a private detective to follow this woman? How much did they spend? How many times have they done this?
-Of the forty cases for which this happened, why was this woman the only one charged? Why was she charged so severely?
-By what right does a Judge have to purposely sabotage the mother's future career prospects as an overt part of his sentence? (''Because of the felony conviction, you will not be allowed to get your teaching degree under Ohio law as it stands today,'' the judge said. ''The court's taking into consideration that is also a punishment that you will have to serve.''"). The fact that the Judge actively sought to destroy future opportunities for her is not justice, its an act of cruelty. Especially given the actual "crime" committed.
-Have the parole board notes ever been published? Does the US have a UK-style Freedom of Information act that would require their disclosure?
-Why couldn't a single person just look at the mother's motives for protecting her children, and just apply a bit of common sense?
-As a broader issues, I had no idea that parents couldn't choose schools in the USA.
The whole situation is offensive to the point of being sickening.
Mama Robotnik said:
The only way you can choose a different school than your predetermined one is via lottery systems, usually.
And yeah, it's really fucked up when you actually think about that. Instead of standardizing the quality of schools, the districts just accept that some are shit and just build up the better schools even more, widening the gap.
Not sure what you're getting at. Fact still remains that the mother broke the law and was punished accordingly. Despite how much this thread is praising her for trying to give her children a better life, it would seem as though she had every opportunity to do that in a perfectly legal manner.levious said:
hyduK said:
Signing up your kids for a school, the school accepting them, and then getting them to school every day is breaking the law?
It just sounds like a school administration that wanted to make an example of one of 'the poors' trying to better themselves, and wasted probably more taxpayer money hiring a PI to wave their dicks around than it ever cost to teach these kids at this school.
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hyduK said:
Not every law is just. This case being a shining example of that.
hyduK said:
I don't know what you're getting at. The issue was not a better school, but the mother not wanting to leave her kids home alone after school while she worked because they had suffered break ins and vandalization at their home. Perhaps you didn't read the updates.
Punished accordingly seems hardly a fair assessment when she was one person that got formally charged when many others had been found doing similar things in this district over a three year span.
But anyways, the Governor stepped in and did what he could, so there's really nothing to argue about at this point.
I dont' think it's universal, but it's certainly an issue in states that do not have tax revenue sharing between school districts.
Sorry, but the law definitely has a purpose. It prevents overpopulation. You open the school to people out of district and why would anyone keep their kids in the shitty school? Then yu suddenly have two shitty schools. The schools built and staffed according to the population of the district it serves.Mama Robotnik said:
And keep in mind that you're allowed to send your kids to schools out of district, but you have to pay.
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I don't get why she didn't just give temp. custody to the grandfather. I mean then the kids would be able to go to the "good" school, and the mom could be at ease about their protection.
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hyduK said:
No actually, it's not safe to assume that. It's impossible to know without hearing their stories.
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She deserved more than the jail time the jury found her worthy of. I say she deserved 10 years. The parents in the school district she wanted to send her kids to worked hard for their money and she thinks she should just be able to sneak in? What type of country does she think this is? One where we worry about the middle class and poor? Psh, if she wants that, move to some type of socialist communist paradise where they make you worship the king. This is America. We don't play that shit here.
What made them decide to check into it?
I know for a fact that at every public school I've been to there have been kids that lived in different districts. Parents write down the address of a family member's places all the time.
Aside from district divisions, your address is pretty much meaningless when filling out the paperwork to enroll in a public school. From what I can tell, they don't put the effort into confirming addresses.
I know for a fact that at every public school I've been to there have been kids that lived in different districts. Parents write down the address of a family member's places all the time.
Aside from district divisions, your address is pretty much meaningless when filling out the paperwork to enroll in a public school. From what I can tell, they don't put the effort into confirming addresses.
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Stairs said:
Agreed man. Work 3-4 jobs if necessary. Not that hard, especially if it means your child getting a better education. She thinks she can just be lazy and feast off the hardwork of others? I blame it on Obama.
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