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Mona Lisa was a MAN, baby!

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Stinkles

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Maybe.

http://www.seattlepi.com/artandlife/1404ap_eu_italy_mona_lisa.html


Male model behind the Mona Lisa, expert claims
By ALESSANDRA RIZZO, Associated Press

A male apprentice, longtime companion and possible lover of Leonardo da Vinci was the main influence and a model for the "Mona Lisa" painting, an Italian researcher said Wednesday.

But the researcher, Silvano Vinceti, said the portrait also represents a synthesis of Leonardo's scientific, artistic and philosophical beliefs. Because the artist worked on it at various intervals for many years, he was subjected to different influences and sources of inspiration, and the canvas is full of hidden symbolic meanings.

"The 'Mona Lisa' must be read at various levels, not just as a portrait," Vinceti said.

This is one of many theories that have circulated over the decades about the identity of "Mona Lisa" and the meaning for her famously enigmatic smile. Others have said the painting was a self-portrait in disguise, or the depiction of a Florentine merchant's wife — the latter drawing a consensus among scholars.

The world famous portrait is on display at the Louvre Museum in Paris.

The apprentice Gian Giacomo Caprotti, known as Salai, worked with Leonardo for more than two decades starting in 1490. Vinceti described their relationship as "ambiguous," and most art historians agree Salai was a Leonardo lover.

Several Leonardo works, including "St. John the Baptist" and a lesser-known drawing called "Angel Incarnate," were based on Salai, Vinceti told a news conference at the Foreign Press Association. These paintings show a slender, effeminate young man with long auburn curls.

Vinceti said similarities with the "Mona Lisa's" nose and mouth are striking.

"Salai was a favorite model for Leonardo," he said. "Leonardo certainly inserted characteristics of Salai in the last version of the Mona Lisa."

It was not the first time that Salai's name had been associated with the "Mona Lisa," though some scholars expressed skepticism. Pietro Marani, art historian and Leonardo expert, called the theory "groundless."

Vinceti said other influences may have affected Leonardo. He does not rule out that Lisa Gherardini, wife of Florentine merchant Francesco del Giocondo, may have provided an early inspiration.

Equally, Vinceti said further inspiration may have come from noblewoman Beatrice D'Este, who was married to Ludovico Sforza, the duke of Milan at whose court Leonardo worked in the late 15th century. Vinceti said that Leonardo often would see the woman while he was painting "The Last Supper" for the Monastery of Santa Maria delle Grazie in Milan, where she went to pray.

Traditionally, art historians say Leonardo started panting the "Mona Lisa" in 1503, when he was back from that Milan stay. But Vinceti has said he may have started in the late 1490s in Milan.

Vinceti, a media-savvy writer and art investigator, made his name when he said he had located Caravaggio's long-lost bones last year. He combines state-of-the-art, CSI-like techniques with old-fashioned library research.

Analyzing high-definition scanned images of the "Mona Lisa," Vinceti claimed in recent weeks to have found the letter "S" and "L" in the model's eyes, and the number "72" under the arched bridge in the backdrop of the painting.

He attaches several symbolic meanings to these letters: the "S" pointed him to Salai and the Sforza dynasty that ruled Milan, while the "L" is a reference to the artist himself and Lisa Gherardini.

Marani, the Leonardo expert, said at least three historical documents prove that Gherardini was the original model. He said there are no known paintings of Salai, though he conceded it was entirely possible that the young apprentice might serve as a model for other Leonardo works such as "St. John the Baptist."

But he warned against reading too much into possible similarities between subjects.

"All Leonardo subjects look like each other because he represents an abstract ideal of beauty. Therefore they all have this dual characteristic of masculine and feminine," said Marani, an art professor at Milan's Politecnico university.

"The work began as the portrait of Lisa Gherardini, but over the years in Leonardo's hands it slowly turned into something else: an idealized portrait, not a specific one," Marani said. "That's also why you have this fascinating face that transcends time and transcends a specific person, and why all these theories keep piling up."



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...02/international/i054510S28.DTL#ixzz1CqDySsyg
 
so?
the model was just a reference point.
the end result is still a woman.
a lot of artist use photo references of the opposite sex to convey the artists' intention.
 

Darkman M

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viakado said:
culturally, she smiled. that was unheard of.
technically, da vinci used a technique called Sfumato. very difficult to accomplish at the time.


Wow you are actually serious about something in life......
 

DrForester

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viakado said:
so?
the model was just a reference point.
the end result is still a woman.
a lot of artist use photo references of the opposite sex to convey the artists' intention.
yeah I use guys as references for women and vice versa when I only find the exact pose or shadows in the opposite sex.

OP thought this was a bigger deal than it is.
 

Vox-Pop

Contains Sucralose
viakado said:
culturally, she smiled. that was unheard of.
technically, da vinci used a technique called Sfumato. very difficult to accomplish at the time.
it was also the first portrait to look like a portrait.
it wasn't this:
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Rapstah

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Vox-Pop said:
it was also the first portrait to look like a portrait.
it wasn't this:
qv9qW.jpg
For all you know people looked like that before Da Vinci. This goes back to the dawn of art as we follow humanity's evolution from stick men to realistic creatures to abstract existences.
 
A more accurate title would have read something like "Researcher believes Mona Lisa may have been partially modeled after a man."

Vinceti said other influences may have affected Leonardo. He does not rule out that Lisa Gherardini, wife of Florentine merchant Francesco del Giocondo, may have provided an early inspiration.

Equally, Vinceti said further inspiration may have come from noblewoman Beatrice D'Este, who was married to Ludovico Sforza, the duke of Milan at whose court Leonardo worked in the late 15th century. Vinceti said that Leonardo often would see the woman while he was painting "The Last Supper" for the Monastery of Santa Maria delle Grazie in Milan, where she went to pray.

Anyway still an interesting development.
 
sumo390 said:
Can't stop thinking about Assassin's Creed and homeless Da Vinci.
He pained a '72' on that painting... Coincidence, I think not. Ubisoft was right.

In all seriousness, though, I doubt we'll ever know for sure. Next thing we know, somebody claims the Mona Lisa was actually an extraterrestrial in disguise.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Didn't this come up in 1988?
 

Why For?

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I never got the Mona Lisa intrigue.

I mean, fuck, sometimes the simplest answer is often the correct one.

Maybe he just painted a random woman for reasons unknown.

Maybe he was banging her?
 

ZiZ

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I will never understand all the hype surrounding the Mona Lisa.

why does a painting of an average looking unknown (women/man) get so much more recognition than, say the Elephant clock, (which was built centuries before the renaissance, features a dragon and a phoenix riding on a fucking robot elephant! and it also tells time)
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
xbhaskarx said:
Obviously you're an art history major.
lol. Probably because of your avatar I read that in The Dude's "obviously you're not a golfer" voice.
 

Cipher

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OuterWorldVoice said:
Analyzing high-definition scanned images of the "Mona Lisa," Vinceti claimed in recent weeks to have found the letter "S" and "L" in the model's eyes, and the number "72" under the arched bridge in the backdrop of the painting.

Nothing is true, Everything is permitted.
 
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