Monster Hunter Wilds - DF Tech Review - PlayStation 5/Xbox Series X|S - Graphics & Performance
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diffusionx
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Just read the article
www.eurogamer.net
Series S is a total disaster.
Monster Hunter Wilds feels undercooked on PS5, Series X and especially Series S
Monster Hunter Wilds meets current-gen standards on Xbox Series X, Series S and PS5,
www.eurogamer.net
Series S is a total disaster.
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Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
Hilarious how DF won't do a video that compares Xbox Series X and PS5 Pro... sure they'll continue to bag on the Pro separately, but not in direct light with the Series X or a specifically modeled PC...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
- PS5 Pro coverage will be separate video later, not in this video.
- Based on RE engine. First MH game to feature a seamless open world.
- Without too much pop-in and plenty of flora and fauna.
- Skin shading and hair rendering praised. Gameplay animation also praised.
- Compared to previous MH games, the tech and world improvements are obvious.
- Lighting can be very good at times. Uses SSAO and Baked GI combination.
- However,some areas can also look very gray-ish and some material don't reflect light properly
- GI and SSAO don't do a good job of shadowing smaller things
- No RTGI unlike Dragon's Dogma 2
- Fixed time of day, no dynamic cnanges.
- 3 Basic modes and 2 toggles, total of 8 modes.
- Frame Rate mode can be capped to 60, Resolution can be capped to 30 and Balanced to 40 (only on 120hz displays).
- All modes can also run unlocked.
- Frame Rade mode looks notably visually worse, Balanced and Resolution look very similar.
- Average resolutions: Resolution: 1656p, Balanced 1242p, Frame Rate 900p.
- Uses FSR1 to up-scale to 4K, DRS also observed with Frame Rate hovering between 720p to 1080p.
- Volumetric changes between modes, Frame rate has simplified SSR and worse GI coverage
- Most general coverage below is based on the base PS5:
- Frame Rate does OK job at 60 with dropped frames, VRR owners will benefit
- Resolution is more closer to locked 30 with some drops
- Balanced suffers frequent drops below 40 but around 40 (no severe drops)
- All modes can be uncapped but Balanced and Performance still tend to stick to their caps.
- Resolution uncapped can reach high 30's, close to 40.
- LFC is not supported on PS5 so uncapped feels choppier even with VRR capable displays
- (adam's explainer: PS5's VRR range for non LFC games is between 48 to 60hz, so anything below that is essentially not VRR covered)
- DF thinks general performance can be improved, Performance mode in particular is rough visually.
- Does not have NPC pop-in in your face like DD2 did, thankfully.
Xbox:
Series X:
- SX is basically identical to PS5 both in terms of visuals and performance.
- When both are uncapped, they're very similar with PS5 having a very slight up-lift
- Image Quality, performance and visuals are basically a match.
- Xbox's better VRR support for Uncapped Resolution and Balanced mode is beneficial for 120hz display owners
- (adam's explainer: Xbox has system level LFC support for 120hz displays as well as a broader VRR range by default, so the VRR coverage is 'better' per DF)
-Series S:
- More visual cuts, SSR is cut, texture resolution is lower.
- Single 1080p mode but image is softer
- Performance has drops below 30 with mid 20 drops in monster fights
- Uncapping doesn't do much other than going a bit above 30 in slower times
- Based on RE engine. First MH game to feature a seamless open world.
- Without too much pop-in and plenty of flora and fauna.
- Skin shading and hair rendering praised. Gameplay animation also praised.
- Compared to previous MH games, the tech and world improvements are obvious.
- Lighting can be very good at times. Uses SSAO and Baked GI combination.
- However,some areas can also look very gray-ish and some material don't reflect light properly
- GI and SSAO don't do a good job of shadowing smaller things
- No RTGI unlike Dragon's Dogma 2
- Fixed time of day, no dynamic cnanges.
- 3 Basic modes and 2 toggles, total of 8 modes.
- Frame Rate mode can be capped to 60, Resolution can be capped to 30 and Balanced to 40 (only on 120hz displays).
- All modes can also run unlocked.
- Frame Rade mode looks notably visually worse, Balanced and Resolution look very similar.
- Average resolutions: Resolution: 1656p, Balanced 1242p, Frame Rate 900p.
- Uses FSR1 to up-scale to 4K, DRS also observed with Frame Rate hovering between 720p to 1080p.
- Volumetric changes between modes, Frame rate has simplified SSR and worse GI coverage
- Most general coverage below is based on the base PS5:
- Frame Rate does OK job at 60 with dropped frames, VRR owners will benefit
- Resolution is more closer to locked 30 with some drops
- Balanced suffers frequent drops below 40 but around 40 (no severe drops)
- All modes can be uncapped but Balanced and Performance still tend to stick to their caps.
- Resolution uncapped can reach high 30's, close to 40.
- LFC is not supported on PS5 so uncapped feels choppier even with VRR capable displays
- (adam's explainer: PS5's VRR range for non LFC games is between 48 to 60hz, so anything below that is essentially not VRR covered)
- DF thinks general performance can be improved, Performance mode in particular is rough visually.
- Does not have NPC pop-in in your face like DD2 did, thankfully.
Xbox:
Series X:
- SX is basically identical to PS5 both in terms of visuals and performance.
- When both are uncapped, they're very similar with PS5 having a very slight up-lift
- Image Quality, performance and visuals are basically a match.
- Xbox's better VRR support for Uncapped Resolution and Balanced mode is beneficial for 120hz display owners
- (adam's explainer: Xbox has system level LFC support for 120hz displays as well as a broader VRR range by default, so the VRR coverage is 'better' per DF)
-Series S:
- More visual cuts, SSR is cut, texture resolution is lower.
- Single 1080p mode but image is softer
- Performance has drops below 30 with mid 20 drops in monster fights
- Uncapping doesn't do much other than going a bit above 30 in slower times
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GymWolf
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No clickbaity title, i'm susprised 
Edit: lmao at the praise to skin and fur
These dudes just can't be honest and say that it looks like shit for a nextgen only, high budget game, they always have to sweaten the pill to get games for free and being invited to events.
Not that i expect much from these hacks after their 2024 graphic awards...
Edit: lmao at the praise to skin and fur
These dudes just can't be honest and say that it looks like shit for a nextgen only, high budget game, they always have to sweaten the pill to get games for free and being invited to events.
Not that i expect much from these hacks after their 2024 graphic awards...
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saintjules
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Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
I also love how he admits yet again, he isn't a real gamer. DF has lost the plot.
bbw_lover87
Member
I have the game pre ordered for xsx but imma cancel it and wait a couple a months, i played ton of mh rise and mh world and mh wild doesnt look that good or seem to play that good now
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Hmmmmm. I wonder how Performance mode will look on my Portal.
Mister Wolf
Member
No RTGI or day/night cycle is lame.
Schmendrick
Member
Thanks for nothing Capcom....
Get rid of that damn engine already.
Get rid of that damn engine already.
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And FSR1 is a shame
Mithos
Member
xenosys
Member
The worst combo is a game that looks mediocre visually, but also runs like shit. At least with eye candy, you can understand why there's a performance hit.
Like DD2, Capcom again looking like they've taken a big release that could have done with more time in the oven and rushed it out before the end of the FY.
Like DD2, Capcom again looking like they've taken a big release that could have done with more time in the oven and rushed it out before the end of the FY.
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Buggy Loop
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Mister Wolf
Member
What makes this game so much more demanding than Dragon's Dogma 2?
roosnam1980
Member
at least the animations are decent
but generally looks rough
but generally looks rough
Buggy Loop
Member
Increasingly more spaghetti code is the only thing I can see by now. Something happened over there with their graphic engine engineers.
It looks like it should run on Switch 2 but performance says you need a 4090
And yet this developer is constantly brought up as some kind of gold standard…
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I guess the biggest thing would be that different teams worked on it. The MH games have always been wonky, MH World was also something of a poor game technically on PS4/XBO.
Topher
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coachmcguirk91
Member
Between Dragon's Dogma 2 and Monster Hunter Wilds, it is clear the RE Engine sucks for open world games
saintjules
Member
That's why I never trust what others are projecting with things like HDR.
We don't know how it's being recorded and we don't know the calibrated settings that produces the output.
diffusionx
Gold Member
PS5 and Xbox Series X are not powerful to run "modern" games with "modern" features at 60fps, it's just that simple.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Jeeeesus!
Hopefully the PS pro saves the console versions. Should be good for less than 10% of the total Playstation userbase.
Hopefully the PS pro saves the console versions. Should be good for less than 10% of the total Playstation userbase.
R6Rider
Gold Member
"modern" features lmao
They are plenty capable. Japanese devs strike again. Great gameplay and poor performance.
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squidilix
Member
Yeah, sure.. Enjoy your shitty Frame Generation unstable
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jm89
Member
That's probably why they are doing a separate pro video. It will get them more views, so milk it as much as possible..
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SweetTooth
Banned
Like for like scenario, PS5 has -yet again- a better performance than Series X oof
Cant wait for PS5Pro coverage!
Cant wait for PS5Pro coverage!
GymWolf
Member
Console being underpowered cheap boxes and devs being inepts with graphic\perf are not mutually esclusive.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Man, I feel bad for anyone who will be playing in perf mode. The low res coupled with FSR1 makes the image quality atrocious.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
A prayer for our brothers and sisters playing this on base consoles.
Horseganador
Member
PS5 and Series X almost the same (it performs slightly better on unlocked PS5) and Series S a total disaster, but the truth is that all versions are disappointing on a graphical and technical level, I don't understand how an engine like RE engine that works so well in linear environments in open worlds needs such high resources, it is clear that it is not suitable for this type of game.
SweetTooth
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roosnam1980
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R6Rider
Gold Member
I thought that far left picture was Runescape for second.Man, I feel bad for anyone who will be playing in perf mode. The low res coupled with FSR1 makes the image quality atrocious.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Man, I feel bad for anyone who will be playing in perf mode. The low res coupled with FSR1 makes the image quality atrocious.
Shades of the Veilguard Performance Mode, lol.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
720p FSR1 is way better, you're right
Comandr
Member
This. Haven't watched it all yet but seeing the opening footage I was like holy shit he didn't calibrate?
This is also confusing to me? The fuckin beta has a full day/night cycle. You can even open the map and it shows you with a big infographic exactly what weather you can expect and when it's going to be night and what monsters will be there and when.
This whole tech analysis reads as undercooked.
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