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[Reizo Ryuu]

I'm just out of the tutorial. Visually it looks a bit like a Ubisoft game. NPCs especially.

Is this game always online now?

No, it still has the pause game option in the menu, it's probably just online only for this test.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Is this game always online now?

I think only for the Beta. Full game I think requires reauthentication every 24 hours...for updates or new content they will definitely add to the game.

I think the Beta is also testing out the Online component.

I purposely enter Lobbies with the least players because I just want to play the game solo.

 

[Punished Miku]

Its cool. Playing SnS and LB. Having 2 weapons is a great addition. I like the wounds. Controlling the mount is a little odd and can feel somewhat unresponsive but they're obviously going for that on purpose. Menus are overwhelming but thats how it always is at first. So far it looks really cool but the density and complexity of the environments in World and Rise was better, but this is just the beginning.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Its cool. Playing SnS and LB. Having 2 weapons is a great addition. I like the wounds. Controlling the mount is a little odd and can feel somewhat unresponsive but they're obviously going for that on purpose. Menus are overwhelming but thats how it always is at first. So far it looks really cool but the density and complexity of the environments in World and Rise was better, but this is just the beginning.

i just want to know how gear ll work cause SnS and LB builds are two completely different things.

 

[Icymanipulator]

i just want to know how gear ll work cause SnS and LB builds are two completely different things.

Yes I’ve been wondering about this myself. It’s one thing in the beta, but in the real game those kinds of weapon combinations will want very different armor sets and skills.

 

[yet_another_alt]

Its cool. Playing SnS and LB. Having 2 weapons is a great addition. I like the wounds. Controlling the mount is a little odd and can feel somewhat unresponsive but they're obviously going for that on purpose. Menus are overwhelming but thats how it always is at first. So far it looks really cool but the density and complexity of the environments in World and Rise was better, but this is just the beginning.

There is an option to make the mounts move like regular characters.

 

[rodrigolfp]

the scene below runs barely at 50fps. the resolution here is probably 720p at best, however I haven't pixelcounted it or anything.
additionally, notice the clear and ugly signs of tier 1 VRS on the rock pillar on the right. that in parts looks unironically PS1 era resolutions.

and even if this ran at native 4K it would look worse than the average Xbox One X enhanced game

Reminds me of this thread:

News - Monster Hunter Wilds Stage Demo - 60 FPS on PS5

But... the Chinese gamer said...

www.neogaf.com

"It's all compression" LOL

 

[Rentahamster]

It was fun, but a little confusing at first because I've never played a Monster Hunter game before. I'm sure I was extremely unoptimal in my DPS rotations/combos.

I have collectibles and materials coming out of my ass, is that a Monster Hunter staple game mechanic?

How much longer is the beta up for?

 

[Haint]

the scene below runs barely at 50fps. the resolution here is probably 720p at best, however I haven't pixelcounted it or anything.
additionally, notice the clear and ugly signs of tier 1 VRS on the rock pillar on the right. that in parts looks unironically PS1 era resolutions.

and even if this ran at native 4K it would look worse than the average Xbox One X enhanced game

Reminds me of this thread:

News - Monster Hunter Wilds Stage Demo - 60 FPS on PS5

But... the Chinese gamer said...

www.neogaf.com

"It's all compression" LOL

Yeah that legit does look like a Vita game or one of those bastardized beyond recognition Switch ports. RE Engine is a dog shit engine people think is good cause RE games are almost entirely easy to render architectural environments comprised of dirt simple flat surfaces and photogrametry. It falls flat on its face when asked to render anything more complicated, particularly open world. These Japanese teams really need to ditch their proprietary trash and have these engineer's spend all their time learning to use UE5 properly, not endlessly building on comically inferior decade old engines.

 

[Skifi28]

Finally killed the Rey Dau. I don't know how long there's still in the beta, but I think I'm done.

 

[Joelenheimer]

I've come to the realization that the average PC gamer is very, very dumb these days.

Case in point:

Put on your thinking cap. The beta is 23GB. Do you know how big Monster Hunter Worlds is on Steam?

NINETY EIGHT GIGABYTES

Do I need to spell it out for you further? It means all the high quality textures and assets aren't in this beta. And obviously, optimization will also improve in the next 3 months (and beyond). Chill out.

Steam says MH Wilds requires 140gb of storage for this game.
Also the games didn’t run good on PS5, SO THAT MEANS IT’S SHIT TRASH GARBAGE, DUUUHH

 

[Icymanipulator]

The beta is all I’ve played since it’s been available. So far have logged 37 hours… I’ve killed all the monsters dozens of times with every weapon I use. Trying to get the most out of it before it leaves lol

 

[saintjules]

the scene below runs barely at 50fps. the resolution here is probably 720p at best, however I haven't pixelcounted it or anything.
additionally, notice the clear and ugly signs of tier 1 VRS on the rock pillar on the right. that in parts looks unironically PS1 era resolutions.

and even if this ran at native 4K it would look worse than the average Xbox One X enhanced game

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[Roman Empire]

The beta is all I’ve played since it’s been available. So far have logged 37 hours… I’ve killed all the monsters dozens of times with every weapon I use. Trying to get the most out of it before it leaves lol

I got myself 31 hours and it was all I played the whole weekend. I used every weapon as I plan on manning something else than Insect Glaive this time. I loved Bow, Chargeblade, Sword and Shield, Dual Blades, Heavy Bowgun, and Hammer. It'll be so hard to choose a main this time around.

 

[Pejo]

Don't think this was posted here yet. Make sure to fill out the survey with feedback so they can improve things before release.

https://event2.capcom.com/wilds_obt

Also, saw this earlier on reddit. Great example of one of the biggest problems I had with the combat. The hitstop has been severely reduced in Wilds, sometimes removed entirely. It's what used to give "weight" to landed hits in past games, and this video shows what was missing in the beta:

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Yeah that was def noticeable, hammer still had hitstop, but didn't feel as crunchy as world.

 

[Skifi28]

Needs a mod where palicos are replaced by children.

 

[Icymanipulator]

Yes I filled out the survey and gave them a mouthful , 2000 character limit huh?

 

[GateofD]

i don't have a discerning eye for graphics, as long as its just as good as Worlds.
how's the gameplay impressions though? And any UI improvements?

 

[Shodai]

The floaty weapon feel and monsters running away (Scripted I assume) is one heck of a turn-off to me, having never played these games.

I see potential but hard pass for me if this is what will be experienced on release.

 

[GymWolf]

Hey lance users, we know you like this weapon for its extreme precision and good range so we decided to make the focus attack where you can also aim, a fucking short shield bash.

Capcom out.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Hey lance users, we know you like this weapon for its extreme precision and good range so we decided to make the focus attack where you can also aim, a fucking short shield bash.

Capcom out.

Lance IS life

 

[Roman Empire]

The floaty weapon feel and monsters running away (Scripted I assume) is one heck of a turn-off to me, having never played these games.

I see potential but hard pass for me if this is what will be experienced on release.

The weapon missing hitstop could be a beta thing as no other monster hunter game had a lack of it up until now. The monster running away was done for beta purposes but they won't run away that much on release. Same with monsters always appearing in the map, it was so players could constantly fight them but in the full game you'll have to track them down for a few times until you gather all the intel on their behavior, then they become available on the map from the get go.

 

[MangalaX]

I have never liked monster hunter, for me is such a drag having to beat up the monster so much before the kill, jesus....specially in the early stages....is a friking chooooooreeee...Im like proly gets better when youre better equipped and higher lv, but I always get so tired of that formula, and now with a mount those early monsters cant even land a hit....griiiiiind....draaaag....boring

 

[MagiusNecros]

The weapon missing hitstop could be a beta thing as no other monster hunter game had a lack of it up until now. The monster running away was done for beta purposes but they won't run away that much on release. Same with monsters always appearing in the map, it was so players could constantly fight them but in the full game you'll have to track them down for a few times until you gather all the intel on their behavior, then they become available on the map from the get go.

Lack of hitstop seems like a design choice given it's present in all the gameplay trailers. However it makes primarily slashing weapons floaty and weightless. Blunt weapons not as much. Game really relies on damage numbers and glowing wounds as a visual aid. Blood effects seem rather weak. The strongest I've seen is on bug type enemies.

I think the decision for this was to make it so the small monsters and large monsters are less likely to stunlock you and body you to death but if you knew what you were doing this wouldn't happen.

In early MH games you aren't seeing damage numbers at all and hunting a monster really was all visual on how it was acting. You only knew you were close to defeating a monster when it started limping away.

I think the game as is just has a lot of systems that want to fight against each other and I hope they can sort it out.

 

[GymWolf]

Lack of hitstop seems like a design choice given it's present in all the gameplay trailers. However it makes primarily slashing weapons floaty and weightless. Blunt weapons not as much. Game really relies on damage numbers and glowing wounds as a visual aid. Blood effects seem rather weak. The strongest I've seen is on bug type enemies.

I think the decision for this was to make it so the small monsters and large monsters are less likely to stunlock you and body you to death but if you knew what you were doing this wouldn't happen.

In early MH games you aren't seeing damage numbers at all and hunting a monster really was all visual on how it was acting. You only knew you were close to defeating a monster when it started limping away.

I think the game as is just has a lot of systems that want to fight against each other and I hope they can sort it out.

Disagree, hammer feels nothing like world.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Disagree, hammer feels nothing like world.

You misunderstand. Compared to the other weapons Hammer has more weight to it in the Beta. If we want to talk about World then yes the weapons in World don't feel the same as they do in Wilds. If anything most of the weapons in Wilds feel worse.

 

[GymWolf]

You misunderstand. Compared to the other weapons Hammer has more weight to it in the Beta. If we want to talk about World then yes the weapons in World don't feel the same as they do in Wilds. If anything most of the weapons in Wilds feel worse.

I think that mechanically the weapons feel great (some more, some less), my problem is with the lack of hitstop, just that.

 

[MagiusNecros]

I think that mechanically the weapons feel great (some more, some less), my problem is with the lack of hitstop, just that.

I think if it had the right amount of hitstop they would feel much better. Other weapons like Insect Glaive are very clunky since they are very integrated with the Focus system and to get the most out of it you have to use different claw grips to use effectively. Which I am not ever going to do.

When the game launches it's going to be a HBG/GL playthrough for me.

 

[Lokaum D+]

I think if it had the right amount of hitstop they would feel much better. Other weapons like Insect Glaive are very clunky since they are very integrated with the Focus system and to get the most out of it you have to use different claw grips to use effectively. Which I am not ever going to do.

When the game launches it's going to be a HBG/GL playthrough for me.

Yep, this was one of my complaining about the game, weapons feels a lot "softer" than other iterations

 

[Schmendrick]

Yep, this was one of my complaining about the game, weapons feels a lot "softer" than other iterations

ah, that`s why i felt like wagging wet paper around instead of that weighty feel the bonk weapons always had....

 

[Pejo]

Looks like hitstop is back on the menu:

Monster Hunter Wilds hitstop feels way better in the non-beta build, and the game's director was happy to juice it back up after overseas players apparently hated it in World

Monster Hunter Wilds weapons will land with more oomph in the full game

www.gamesradar.com

My colleague Lincoln Carpenter from PC Gamer beat me to the question and asked why the hitstop was toned down in the Monster Hunter Wilds beta. Tokuda explained that "some of the changes in the hitstop were obviously intentional, and some were not implemented due to the settings of the game. When Monster Hunter World was released, many of the users from overseas commented that the hitstop was way too hard and it made it difficult for them to play. So it's very positive feedback seeing the users who experienced the [Wilds open beta test] this time saying that they missed the hitstop that they were experiencing in past titles.

"It's a very unique Monster Hunter experience being able to experience that hitstop," he continued. "So it's very positive feedback from my perspective. In the current version that I think you guys had hands-on gameplay with, there was obviously a little bit of adjustment compared to the [open beta]. And for the full product version, there will be adjustments. For example, the finishing moves will have adjustments to hitstop as well."

 

[cormack12]

We back again boys!!

 

[Icymanipulator]

I spent 48 hours on the beta last run over 6 days.

I’m guessing I’ll manage at least 20 if it ends Sunday night?

 

[nikos]

I've pretty much accepted that Monster Hunter games aren't for me but I'm going to give this beta a fair chance. I'd love for it to finally click.

 

[Comandr]

I've pretty much accepted that Monster Hunter games aren't for me but I'm going to give this beta a fair chance. I'd love for it to finally click.

What is it about MH games that you're having trouble with?

 

[Raven117]

Im not even going to look at a video. I’m in day one and want everything to feel new and fresh

 

[Comandr]

Im not even going to look at a video. I’m in day one and want everything to feel new and fresh

Wow. Have you gone in completely blind so far?

 

[Raven117]

Wow. Have you gone in completely blind so far?

Yup. I’m a fan. Played them all since 3U.

No need to see anything else

 

[nikos]

What is it about MH games that you're having trouble with?

Not really sure. I think it's a combination of the onboarding, general aesthetic and all of the "systems" involved.

 

[Evolved1]

I've pretty much accepted that Monster Hunter games aren't for me but I'm going to give this beta a fair chance. I'd love for it to finally click.

There are some settings that really help with quality of life. I highly recommend seeing if there's a setting to adjust if something is annoying you.

For example, the default setting for riding the horsebird is pretty awful imo. Auto run and having to press buttons to speed up, slow down. There's a setting that changes all that to left stick... just like moving your character. Soooo much better. There are many examples of things you can change like that.

 

[nikos]

There are some settings that really help with quality of life. I highly recommend seeing if there's a setting to adjust if something is annoying you.

For example, the default setting for riding the horsebird is pretty awful imo. Auto run and having to press buttons to speed up, slow down. There's a setting that changes all that to left stick... just like moving your character. Soooo much better. There are many examples of things you can change like that.

I'll take a look once the beta starts. Keybindings have been really unconventional for these games, especially on mouse/keyboard where there have been "standards" for years.

I believe I had to change a bunch of settings in Rise, which I actually played for a few hours and was getting the hang of.

 

[Comandr]

Not really sure. I think it's a combination of the onboarding, general aesthetic and all of the "systems" involved.

Well, I suppose MH games can be somewhat complicated. What was the last one you played?

 

[nikos]

I would love a ranged class with manual aiming that I could play on mouse/keyboard in a somewhat traditional manner. Not sure if there's anything like that in this game.

 

[Comandr]

I would love a ranged class with manual aiming that I could play on mouse/keyboard in a somewhat traditional manner. Not sure if there's anything like that in this game.

Unless I'm mistaken, all of the ranged weapons; the bow, the light and heavy bowguns play that way.

 

[nikos]

Well, I suppose MH games can be somewhat complicated. What was the last one you played?

Last one was Rise. I was actually getting the hang of it and having fun. I forget why I stopped playing. Probably too many games at the time.

Unless I'm mistaken, all of the ranged weapons; the bow, the light and heavy bowguns play that way.

Definitely going to give them a shot. If not, I'll probably try melee.

 

[Comandr]

Last one was Rise. I was actually getting the hang of it and having fun. I forget why I stopped playing. Probably too many games at the time.



Definitely going to give them a shot. If not, I'll probably try melee.

Just logged in and checked. ADS with right click, left click to fire, mouse wheel to change ammo types. It's about as simple as it can get.

I prefer melee weapons myself - no matter which game, ranged never clicked for me. Though the changes they made this generation to bows is pretty compelling for sure.

All of the melee weapons feel so fresh this generation, they're all a ton of fun. Sometimes finding the right one will make it all click. I tried playing MH several times in the early years and absolutely hated it. It wasn't until I tried 3U on the Wii U and the gunlance that it all suddenly clicked and I was like holy shit this is so much fun. Then in 4U I discovered the insect glaive and have loved it ever since. Though this time around, the dual blades, sword and shield, and longsword feel so good - ugh I want to play them all.

 

[cormack12]

What is it about MH games that you're having trouble with?

 

[nikos]

Just logged in and checked. ADS with right click, left click to fire, mouse wheel to change ammo types. It's about as simple as it can get.

I prefer melee weapons myself - no matter which game, ranged never clicked for me. Though the changes they made this generation to bows is pretty compelling for sure.

All of the melee weapons feel so fresh this generation, they're all a ton of fun. Sometimes finding the right one will make it all click. I tried playing MH several times in the early years and absolutely hated it. It wasn't until I tried 3U on the Wii U and the gunlance that it all suddenly clicked and I was like holy shit this is so much fun. Then in 4U I discovered the insect glaive and have loved it ever since. Though this time around, the dual blades, sword and shield, and longsword feel so good - ugh I want to play them all.

That sounds great, thanks for checking.

I agree, I think a lot has to do with finding the right weapon. I prefer faster/lighter weapons.

I'm actually really excited to try this tonight.