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Movie or TV show that is hated by it's fanbase that you liked as a casual enjoyer

I'll start. I enjoyed the Death Note Netflix movie. As someone who knew nothing about it I'm like hey this is an interesting concept. Fun movie. Of course the fans despised it for either not including something or changing this or that.

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ManaByte

Member
I didn't mind GoT Season 8, possibly because giving Bran the throne is exactly the sort of trope shitting that GRRM would do, and I wasn't so obsessed with Daenerys that I got a Mother of Dragon tattoo or named a daughter Khaleesi before seeing how her story arc would end.

I understand the "rushed" complaints for the season, but A LOT of the bitching about it began from the Daenerys stans who completely ignored her saying how she would take her dragons and burn everyone to the ground before they got their tattoos and named their kids after her.
 

Kimahri

Banned
I didn't mind GoT Season 8, possibly because giving Bran the throne is exactly the sort of trope shitting that GRRM would do, and I wasn't so obsessed with Daenerys that I got a Mother of Dragon tattoo or named a daughter Khaleesi before seeing how her story arc would end.

I understand the "rushed" complaints for the season, but A LOT of the bitching about it began from the Daenerys stans who completely ignored her saying how she would take her dragons and burn everyone to the ground before they got their tattoos and named their kids after her.
Haha, I think it's the best season. Not because it's good, but because shit actually happens in every episode.

I found the show pretty boring. 1-2 great episodes per season, and the rest just drawn out boring slogs.

So yeah, with no attachement whatsoever to any character (kinda hated Jon and Daenerys from the start) there was no bone in my capabke of being upset by that season.
 

ManaByte

Member
Haha, I think it's the best season. Not because it's good, but because shit actually happens in every episode.

I found the show pretty boring. 1-2 great episodes per season, and the rest just drawn out boring slogs.

So yeah, with no attachement whatsoever to any character (kinda hated Jon and Daenerys from the start) there was no bone in my capabke of being upset by that season.

I also think a lot of the Daenerys stans joined the series later into the run when it became a Social Media "thing" and didn't understand GRRM's whole point was to turn fantasy tropes on their head, which is why Ned Stark lost his head at the end of the first book/season. They were expecting the show to end with Jon and Daenerys sharing the iron throne and raising a family of inbred babies, when that's something GRRM would never do with the story.
 

AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
I LOVE IT!!
Did you just decide not to think about it and take it for what it is. Recently I just enjoy my kids enjoying it, and I don't criticize because they will take my point of view. But objectively the new stuff is pretty bad with glimpses of good.
 

Kimahri

Banned
I also think a lot of the Daenerys stans joined the series later into the run when it became a Social Media "thing" and didn't understand GRRM's whole point was to turn fantasy tropes on their head, which is why Ned Stark lost his head at the end of the first book/season. They were expecting the show to end with Jon and Daenerys sharing the iron throne and raising a family of inbred babies, when that's something GRRM would never do with the story.
Good points.

Daenerys was always a horrible person. She was nothing more than a tyrant seeking power, and the way things ended didn't suprise me at all. I was more surprised by people's reaction to it all.

Lik... Which show were they watching? Did they expect a happy ending?

Did you just decide not to think about it and take it for what it is. Recently I just enjoy my kids enjoying it, and I don't criticize because they will take my point of view. But objectively the new stuff is pretty bad with glimpses of good.
New Star Wars had no heart, it's just corporate bullshit. You can say whatever you like about the quality of Lucas's output, but it had heart, and that matters.
 

Kev Kev

Member
Did you just decide not to think about it and take it for what it is. Recently I just enjoy my kids enjoying it, and I don't criticize because they will take my point of view. But objectively the new stuff is pretty bad with glimpses of good.
No I just thought it was all really good.

The sequel trilogy was great, but I thought RoS didn’t quite deliver. And there were really bizarre production issues with the Obi-Wan series, but overall still found it pretty good. Everything else was fantastic. I’m still working my way through some of the newer stuff, but I gotta finish the new Marvel stuff first (which had also been amazing!!).
 

Doom85

Member
I’m not particularly a Tim Burton film. Most of his original films don’t really appeal to me, and his adaptations disappoint me. I think Batman ‘89 is a great film, but some of the deviations (particularly most of what was done to Joker) make it unsatisfactory to me as an adaptation. Batman Returns was eh to me, Planet of the Apes remake was shit aside from awesome makeup and costume work, and I’m open to a lot of remakes but remaking Willy Wonka is a big no, you’ll never surpass the original film IMHO (and fuck off with this “more faithful” angle, setting it in modern day and making Mike a gamer instead of a cowboy movie lover is already off. And who gave a shit about Veruca failing in a room of geese as opposed to squirrels? Nobody I knew, we just loved her awesome evil song and Wonka’s great snarky lines regarding her and her father’s possible fates).

Having said that, I thought Miss Peregrine was pretty fun. Hardly anything amazing, but all the kid characters were all right, Eva Green was great as the titular character, and Samuel L. Jackson was pretty fun as the villain. I’m aware virtually all the book series fans were disappointed by all the changes, and maybe I’ll feel the same if I ever read them, but I just found it be an enjoyable time which is rare for me with films by Burton.
 

Doom85

Member
The Amazing Spider-Man and Amazing Spider-Man 2.

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I liked a lot of elements of those two movies despite their flaws, but particularly Emma Stone as Gwen. :messenger_heart:

The fact that she said in an interview she’d be down for playing Spider-Gwen the second she got a phone call, and the bigwigs at Sony proceeded to do nothing with that and thought to make shit like Morbius instead, to those executives I say:

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Jennings

Member
Edit: Oh jesus christ I forgot I was on the TV/Movie side of the forum.

Halo Infinite
The shooting feels great, and it's my favorite entry in the series. Even though I've played a couple of the earlier titles, I don't actually consider myself a Halo series fan so there's no baggage attached to the game for me. I also play strictly single player so I have no dog in the multiplayer fight.

Tribes: Vengeance & Tribes: Ascend
I do actually consider myself a fan of the series here, ever since the first game released in the 90s. But unlike the most vocal Tribes communities, I thoroughly enjoyed the two games mentioned above, didn't mind the free-to-play monetization of Ascend (because I unlocked everything for $30 in beta and was able to apply all my accumulated grinding to all future additions with no need for additional work or money) and loved the single player Vengeance campaign.

Civilization 5
Most Civ communities seems to latch on to 4 as the best in the series and deride the 5th entry because of its move to hexes and one unit per tile. But I love the game more than any other in the series and have put umpteen billion hours into it.

Sim City 2013
Yea right, fuck this game and its broken-ass simulation.
 
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mxbison

Member
I didn't mind GoT Season 8, possibly because giving Bran the throne is exactly the sort of trope shitting that GRRM would do, and I wasn't so obsessed with Daenerys that I got a Mother of Dragon tattoo or named a daughter Khaleesi before seeing how her story arc would end.

I understand the "rushed" complaints for the season, but A LOT of the bitching about it began from the Daenerys stans who completely ignored her saying how she would take her dragons and burn everyone to the ground before they got their tattoos and named their kids after her.

Seems to me that most people were fine with Bran taking the throne and Daenerys turning evil (which was always hinted at). But the execution was absolute dog shit. Dialog went down the drain, smart characters doing dumb and unreasonable things, characters receiving plot armor, all of the big mysteries remained unanswered etc.

The writers seemed completely lost after not having the books to copy from.
 

Soodanim

Member
Community (season 4)
Creator and showrunner Dan Harmon left the show, and others took over. Fans and Harmon all talk shit about it, and in the show it's referred to as the "Gas leak year" from S5 onwards where Harmon returned. But if they hadn't made such a big deal about it, I wouldn't have noticed. I still watched it and enjoyed it. It was different, but I definitely wouldn't say it was bad.
 
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AV

We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
I don't watch Star Trek so I thought Into Darkness was a fine movie. I know a lot of Trekkies who won't hear it.
 

pramod

Banned
I don't watch Star Trek so I thought Into Darkness was a fine movie. I know a lot of Trekkies who won't hear it.
Yeah, I never understood the venomous hate ST fans had for Into Darkness as well. It was my favorite of the new ST films.
Sure, it had some problems, but people forget the first one had a ton of ridiculous shit in it too. But somehow people were willing to overlook its flaws.

I also liked Transformers 2. I don't get why this one gets so much hate either. It's the best of the series IMHO. I mean it was as dumb as the others but it at least had some dramatic weight to it, with Optimus dying.

Also liked Batman Forever a lot, but I think that movie has become more appreciated in recent years.

Another one was Executive Decision. I think people panned that movie just because it "fooled" them by killing off Steven Segal in the first 10 mins. But come on man, the rest of the movie was excellent. It was the best of those "Die Hard on a plane" movies.
 
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Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I enjoyed the hell out of the first handful of seasons of Arrow and Flash and so did many others.


But I remember there being LOADS of comic nerds on social media throwing shit fits over the littlest things every time a new episode came out.
 
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pramod

Banned
BTW I wonder if there should also be a thread of the reverse: ie movies that are popular that you hated. I was just thinking how much I disliked the Kill Bill movies. Sure it had some cool fight scenes, but overall it just felt so cheesy, over the top, and pretentious as hell. When you watch it you never lose the impression that it's a kung-fu movie made by a white guy who just wanted to make his own kung-fu movie. Which is exactly what it was.

Also don't know why people like Django Unchained. It was the only Tarantino movie that bored me and I couldn't finish it.
 

Heimdall_Xtreme

Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
I really enjoyed Watchmen.
Yeah some of the changes like the ending weren't great but I still think it captured a lot of what made the Comic good, and for every issue it also had great stuff like some truly spot on casting for some characters
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I was disappointed in the comedian.

I thought his ability was to tell a joke in every situation.
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
Star Wars (post OT)

All of it...?
i actually enjoyed the sequel movies and solo/rogue one. The Force Awakens was what got me into Star Wars. I will admit The Last Jedi didn't go in the direction I expected but it wasn't a terrible movie on it's own. I do think Disney did fuck up by planning on having 3 different directors do a movie. They should've just said to Abrams or Johnson to do all 3. After getting an Abrams and Johnson movie it felt like Disney didn't know wtf to do especially with Treverrow gone so they brought Abrams back to try wrap it up.

the movies have problems but they weren't terrible i think. still fun and enjoyable or at least i thought 🤷‍♂️
 

FunkMiller

Member
I really enjoyed Watchmen.
Yeah some of the changes like the ending weren't great but I still think it captured a lot of what made the Comic good, and for every issue it also had great stuff like some truly spot on casting for some characters
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Watchmen was a pretty solid effort. It missed the mark in many ways, but still managed to tell the story of the comic in a cohesive way, which was something of a triumph in and of itself. Knock off the glorification of violence and the squid cop out, and you've probably got yourself a very good adaptation.
 
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bitbydeath

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Community (season 4)
Creator and showrunner Dan Harmon left the show, and others took over. Fans and Harmon all talk shit about it, and in the show it's referred to as the "Gas leak year" from S5 onwards where Harmon returned. But if they hadn't made such a big deal about it, I wouldn't have noticed. I still watched it and enjoyed it. It was different, but I definitely wouldn't say it was bad.
Season 4 was fine, the show started to spiral when Chevy left at the end of the season and other actors subsequently followed suit.

Seasons 2-4 were it’s best years IMO.
 
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Soodanim

Member
Season 4 was fine, the show started to spiral when Chevy left at the end of the season and other actors subsequently followed suit.

Seasons 2-4 were it’s best years IMO.
I still enjoy it up until the end, but I completely agree about the best era. I always thought 2 and 3 were the best.

I guess that's quite common for sitcoms. Parks and Rec is the same. That golden era when a show has found itself and they haven't run out of their best material yet so you haven't had major changes to the cast or format, and the characters haven't Flanderised yet
 

Doom85

Member
Season 4 was fine, the show started to spiral when Chevy left at the end of the season and other actors subsequently followed suit.

Seasons 2-4 were it’s best years IMO.

I still enjoyed Season 5 (4 was so-so, the characters were mostly written well, I just felt the humor was more miss than hit) because it gave good send offs for Pierce and Troy. Duncan finally came back and was even given more depth while still being hilarious, and Jonathan Banks’ character Hickey was fairly good.

Then Season 6 starts and Shirley is just gone. No send off, just a few lines to say what happened to her and that’s it. And Duncan and Hickey are just vanished with zero explanation.

Then they bring in the new girl and I just wasn’t feeling her at all. And then Keith David, who is an awesome actor, but he felt extremely shoehorned in. I gave it three episodes but yeah I was done. To just write off a main character who had been there since the beginning so casually, and then remove one new and one returning character and replace them all with yet two more new characters, my patience was up. The Study Group was a family by Season 2, and at least Pierce and Troy were given entire episodes dedicated to their departure, and Duncan and Hickey were slowly feeling like part of it as well, but then to just throw a bunch more out like that killed the family feel for me.

It wasn’t final season of 70’s Show level of bad (because who can top that motherfucker who tried to essentially replace Eric in every way possible, don’t even feel like checking his name I hated him so much), but still pretty weak of what I saw.

For me:

Seasons 1-3 10/10
Season 5 9/10
Season 4 7/10
What I saw of Season 6 4/10

I’ve moved on from hoping it will happen, but if it did hopefully the movie can reunite everyone (even Pierce could be in flashbacks or a vision or something) and give a great conclusion. Only supporting character I know sadly won’t be with us is Leonard as I heard his actor passed away a few years back. RIP.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
I still enjoyed Season 5 (4 was so-so, the characters were mostly written well, I just felt the humor was more miss than hit) because it gave good send offs for Pierce and Troy. Duncan finally came back and was even given more depth while still being hilarious, and Jonathan Banks’ character Hickey was fairly good.

Then Season 6 starts and Shirley is just gone. No send off, just a few lines to say what happened to her and that’s it. And Duncan and Hickey are just vanished with zero explanation.

Then they bring in the new girl and I just wasn’t feeling her at all. And then Keith David, who is an awesome actor, but he felt extremely shoehorned in. I gave it three episodes but yeah I was done. To just write off a main character who had been there since the beginning so casually, and then remove one new and one returning character and replace them all with yet two more new characters, my patience was up. The Study Group was a family by Season 2, and at least Pierce and Troy were given entire episodes dedicated to their departure, and Duncan and Hickey were slowly feeling like part of it as well, but then to just throw a bunch more out like that killed the family feel for me.

It wasn’t final season of 70’s Show level of bad (because who can top that motherfucker who tried to essentially replace Eric in every way possible, don’t even feel like checking his name I hated him so much), but still pretty weak of what I saw.

For me:

Seasons 1-3 10/10
Season 5 9/10
Season 4 7/10
What I saw of Season 6 4/10

I’ve moved on from hoping it will happen, but if it did hopefully the movie can reunite everyone (even Pierce could be in flashbacks or a vision or something) and give a great conclusion. Only supporting character I know sadly won’t be with us is Leonard as I heard his actor passed away a few years back. RIP.
Remember during the pandemic when community had a resurgence in popularity? It blew up on Netflix and their were cast reunions etc. I was really thinking a movie would happen. Netflix greenlights so much shit but they couldn't greenlight a community movie? Come on man! Six seasons and a movie!
 
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Doom85

Member
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Man did this movie get annihilated but I absolutely love it. I have no real emotional investment in the source material so a lot of the stuff people were upset over didn't bother me in the slightest.

I find it significantly inferior to the animated film in most aspects……BUT the artistic design of the world and such was perfect. If the Blu-Ray just magically appeared in my BR collection, I don’t know if I’d necessarily rewatch it, but if the art book magically appeared in my art book collection? Oh, I’d be reading through that some, I’m sure the concept art for this film was fucking top notch.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Jingle all the Way.

RT says critics hated it. And IMDB says it's got a 5.7/10 user rating which isnt too hot either.

I thought it was hilarious. Sinbad is the most underrated comedian ever.
 

Soltype

Member
I like Phantom Menace, I was big into Star Wars though.Never understood the hate from the fans, the books had plenty of similar quality entries that didn't get as much hate.
 

SJRB

Gold Member
I find it significantly inferior to the animated film in most aspects……BUT the artistic design of the world and such was perfect. If the Blu-Ray just magically appeared in my BR collection, I don’t know if I’d necessarily rewatch it, but if the art book magically appeared in my art book collection? Oh, I’d be reading through that some, I’m sure the concept art for this film was fucking top notch.
I actually own the art book and it is indeed amazing.

iu
 

MudoSkills

Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
GoT is an interesting example because near enough everybody hated it, but for two quite different reasons. People who were mad the story didn't go the way they wanted it to and asked for the series to be remade to fix it are entitled babies, people who just hated how the show rushed to the end, and abandoned practically everything that made the earlier seasons good, have a legitimate complaint.

Watchmen is another good shout. I really enjoyed the movie and thought that the HBO series was fucking incredible - surprised to look online after finishing it and see that the reaction was so mixed.
 

Alx

Member
I'm ok with directors taking freedom with the source material, it's actually more interesting than following it too closely (people mentioned Watchmen, but I thought it was already too similar to the comics to the point that watching it is redundant).
So to answer the question :
- Star Wars 8 : I did like the general idea of going against most expectations.
- Jumper : I never read the original novel, so as a standalone story I thought it was a good movie with cool depictions of "what would you do if you had that power ?".
- Death Note (Netflix movie) : unlike the OP, I had read the manga before, but I liked that the movie tried to play around with the note rules and imagine new ways of using it.
- Alien 3 : I watched the Alien movies out of order, I think it was 4 > 1 > 2 > 3. After watching the other ones, I got a bit frustrated by the repetitive tropes of the series, so it was welcoming to have the 3rd one subvert some of them (like "who's the android ?")
- MacGyver "new generation" : I'm not sure how the new series was received exactly, but one would expect fans to hate it. I actually like it a lot, even if it did change a lot of stuff compared to the original (some character motivations, more action and tech stuff, Mac is in a team instead of lone-wolfing all the time, ...)
- Troy (movie with Brad Pitt) : not sure one can say there's an "Iliad fan base", but the movie was criticized a lot for its focus on humans and flashy action, but it's a very enjoyable movie.
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- Daredevil (Ben Affleck movie) : I thought it was cool, torn morality of the hero, cool depiction of his radar-sense, perfect Kingpin, ok-ish Bullseye (still better than the comics visuals)
- Thor 1 : great movie ; I get that fans would have liked to see Thor do more Thor stuff, but the story focusing on Loki's tragedy was more interesting.
 
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AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
I like the movie Alexander by Oliver Stone. There are plenty of things not to like about the movie, but overall I think it is a decent encapsulation of the life of Alexander. The soundtrack is incredible. Vangelis created an incredible experience with the music in this movie.

The battle scene where Alexander defeats Darius is pretty good.
 

Catphish

Member
I like Batman vs Superman, especially the Ultimate Edition. I thought Affleck was a good Batman, and I loved the nods given to Frank Miller’s The Dark Knigjt Returns.
 
All Bayformers movies.
I did a rewatch and the first one is so good, a special effects classic. 2 I was disappointed with back in the day but on rewatch it's banger after banger sequence until optimus dies, finale was a little rough. 3 had one of my favorite intros of all time with the Nasa stuff. Michael Bay really knows how to clip together patriotic montages.

 
I like Batman vs Superman, especially the Ultimate Edition. I thought Affleck was a good Batman, and I loved the nods given to Frank Miller’s The Dark Knigjt Returns.
It had the only good batman fight scene ever filmed. Everything Nolan did as far as hand to hand combat was trash. Felt like an Arkham Knight cutscene.
 

NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt

Biggest Trails Stan
I’m not particularly a Tim Burton film. Most of his original films don’t really appeal to me, and his adaptations disappoint me. I think Batman ‘89 is a great film, but some of the deviations (particularly most of what was done to Joker) make it unsatisfactory to me as an adaptation. Batman Returns was eh to me, Planet of the Apes remake was shit aside from awesome makeup and costume work, and I’m open to a lot of remakes but remaking Willy Wonka is a big no, you’ll never surpass the original film IMHO (and fuck off with this “more faithful” angle, setting it in modern day and making Mike a gamer instead of a cowboy movie lover is already off. And who gave a shit about Veruca failing in a room of geese as opposed to squirrels? Nobody I knew, we just loved her awesome evil song and Wonka’s great snarky lines regarding her and her father’s possible fates).

Having said that, I thought Miss Peregrine was pretty fun. Hardly anything amazing, but all the kid characters were all right, Eva Green was great as the titular character, and Samuel L. Jackson was pretty fun as the villain. I’m aware virtually all the book series fans were disappointed by all the changes, and maybe I’ll feel the same if I ever read them, but I just found it be an enjoyable time which is rare for me with films by Burton.

I'm a huge fan of his older stuff. Dumbo and Frankenweenie are the 2 recent ones that were actually great movies. Sleepy Hollow is still my favorite Burton film. I hope the Wednesday show that coming to Netflix turn out good. But it's Netflix, so I'm expecting a mixed bag
 

GeorgioCostanzaX

Gold Member
Star Wars (post OT)

All of it...?
Basically almost every bitchy Star Wars fan born before 1997 ( the year the Special Editions hit) hates everything that’s come after in my experience.

I also love it all including The Last Jedi. The only one I actively dislike (although novels and Mando have made it more coherent) is The Rise of Skywalker.
 
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