Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Read the rest here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/...ang-ban-muslim-names-muhammad-jihad.html?_r=0
This is the kind of thing Trump wish he could do with impunity.
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Muhammad no more: China bans Muslim name for Muslims
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Read the rest here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/...ang-ban-muslim-names-muhammad-jihad.html?_r=0
This is the kind of thing Trump wish he could do with impunity.
NoblesseOblige
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Yeah I'm sure banning a name is going to do wonders to 'curb religious fervor'.
Urgh. Why does the CCP feel the need to clamp down so much anyway?
Because it's not the case? Oppressing religions can be extremely effective in asserting cultural and political dominance.
A lot of religions have historicaly spread by political forces repressing other ones.
It is extremely destructive though, and people of course will fight back. Forcefully cracking down on religion is a no-win situation.
Because it's not the case? Oppressing religions can be extremely effective in asserting cultural and political dominance.
A lot of religions have historicaly spread by political forces repressing other ones.
It is extremely destructive though, and people of course will fight back. Forcefully cracking down on religion is a no-win situation.
Sinfamy
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Correct.
Look at Russia.
hydrophilic attack
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China has a more interesting method, flood the region with Han's.
BTW... what do you think of the Anies Baswedan's victory?
BocoDragon
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This won't do a damn thing to curb religion though. Even from a CCP anti-Muslim perspective, this looks like a fail.
Death Metalist
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Thanks China.
chillybright
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There is no official policy on this in Chinese anywhere. The only "source" that can be found is this:
Stereogatari
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I wonder if this affects Han Chinese Muslims (Hui).
Laughing Banana
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I am not even a Jakarta citizen but blergh.
Do religious extremism want to fuck with China?
Prodigal Son
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Wow smooth moves china im sure this needless crackdown on liberty won't have the opposite intended effect
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
This isn't the PRC I know. They used to be very good at co-opting popular religious traditions with token government acceptance (while stamping out the minority religions that have no power).
Guess I am banned in China then
The only thing this is affecting are people like me who is a regular Muslim.
The extremists will find a way to Fuck things up, which makes it eve harder for people like us.
The only thing this is affecting are people like me who is a regular Muslim.
The extremists will find a way to Fuck things up, which makes it eve harder for people like us.
the_batman
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lol, and people say China should be the new leader of the free world.
Chairmanchuck
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How did that work before I wonder?
Their IDs only allow chinese characters (my drivers licence had to have my name in chinese characters...).
Their IDs only allow chinese characters (my drivers licence had to have my name in chinese characters...).
FrontalMonk
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An unfortunate one these days, but keep in mind that traditionally the concept of Jihad is holy war in the sense of an internal struggle, like speaking truth to power, or protecting people that can't protect themselves. You know, aiming to be a better person and all that. Not a Muslim but that's been my experience with that particular word.
chillybright
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Yes. And they have. For example in 2014 a group of them killed and injured many with long swords and machetes near Kunming train station, which is crowded 24/7. They chopped anyone on sight including kids and elder.
Same reason the west does, easy scapegoat. Find what you can blame people for, and just scapegoat all problems on them.
Like Russia with Homosexuals.
LIke Saudi Arabia with "The west!"
Like Iran with "ISRAËL!"
Like NAZIs with "JEWISH MEDIA AND BANKS! HECK JUST JEWS!"
Like Geert Wilders with "Muslims!"
Like Kim Yung Un with "False Korea!"
Plenty of examples there really, just blame a group for => WOOHOO POWER AND PROFIT!
Radio Free Asia is one of the original sources from a few days ago: "China Bans 'Extreme' Islamic Baby Names Among Xinjiang's Uyghurs"
That's brilliant, news based on a list which isn't even verified.
polyh3dron
Banned
Uighur radicalization isn't even a thing though, is it?
This is how you potentially make it one.
This is how you potentially make it one.
polyh3dron
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Awaiting a Trump tweet praising them for this.
Provided Fox News catches wind of it.
Provided Fox News catches wind of it.
Like Lamel said, just about every Arabic name has a meaning, usually a positive trait. It's harder to find one that doesn't.
Jihad actually means a struggle. Someone once explained it and said it can be struggling to decide to do the right thing when the wrong is so easy.
Media has made it seem like holy war, as that it also a struggle - but not the primary meaning
Wait so it could just be people trying to drum up religious fervor?
Sho_Nuff82
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Tell that to the people being put to death for apostasy in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, the Muslims in Bosnia, the Jews in eastern Europe, the Jehovah's witnesses in Russia.
Religious persecution has historically suppressed, wiped out, or forced the migration of countless religious minorities.
It's the reason the establishment clause exists in the constitution.
It is. What saddens me is that alot of morons name their children 'Jihad' while they know it might cause them problems/misunderstandings/prejudgement and they don't care at all because they're apathetic and stupid.
Golden_Pigeon
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Almost every socialist/communist country did the exact same thing. And banning name is nice comparing what was done in the past.
Ramadan is also banned in China, as beard in some region.
Golden_Pigeon
Banned
It won't cause any problem if you live in many majority muslim country. It have a positive sense in Islam. I won't name my child this way in the West though, but it's stupid. I guess terrorist have won every time somebody equate jihad with terrorism.
chillybright
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It is still not from recent official source but honestly this is more believable than OP's article since it is an already existing policy being expanded into a wider region, which is how CCP typically implements any policy: try out in a small region and expand it a few years later.
It won't surprise me one bit if this name ban comes from CCP as we are talking about a party that implements one child policy across the whole nation of 1 billion people. I am a little skeptical because CCP doesn't need to hide this shit whatsoever. They always announce every policy a few months ahead in local newspapers and online. For example last year when they banned parents from introducing religion to kids in Xinjiang it was announced in the paper. But right now this name ban is just from a few anonymous sources.
It absolutely is and mainly comes from East Turkestan Islamic Movement, which is supported by Al Qaeda. They execute terrorist attacks towards police and civilians mainly in Xinjiang, and a few years ago did Kuming train station attack that killed 31 people and injured 143.
Eh, RFA can be a bit iffy too. They've got a pretty strong ideological bent - supporting US foreign policy is one of their stated goals. They would definitely run this based on nothing.
But I mean, this is completely in line with China's treatment of the whole Xinjiang issue, particularly when it comes to children, so I wouldn't surprised in the least to see it's true. Even if it's not enforceable, the very act of criminalizing a culture has to have a psychological effect.
michaelius
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texhnolyze
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If by people you mean GAF. I have seen it anywhere else.
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