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[Karg]

"These pics came from a guy in AZ. Yes, the mule killed the mountain lion. The lion had been stalking them for the better part of the morning, on the way out to a hunt. They were pretty sure it was after one of the dogs. The cat ambushed them, and the mule pictured tossed its rider and went into attack (defense) mode, the horses scattered and shots were fired but no one was sure if they hit the cat or not. Unfortunately, it wasn't until it was almost over that one of the guys started snapping pics. The mule finally stomped the cougar to death after biting and throwing it around like a rag doll. The dogs wouldn't even come close until the mule settled down.

The cat was still alive here and trying to fight back

The mule stomped the cat then pinned it to the ground and bit the heck out of the dead cat several more times.

The cat was pretty much dead by now then mule picked up the cat again whipped it into the air again then stomped the dead cat again for good measure!

Note the dog audience.... Gives new meaning to the term " "BAD ASS"

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http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/mulelion.asp

Fake or real?

 

[Drozmight]

How did the mule initially get the upperhand on that thing? Lucky kick? They must've shot it and didn't know.

 

[Hooker]

Man, I thought this was about that Discovery program where they set different kind of creatures up against eachother, never expected to see like.... real photos :|

 

[Karg]

How did the mule initially get the upperhand on that thing? Lucky kick? They must've shot it and didn't know.

Yeah, lion might've already been dead and the mule was just tossing it around. But if its true then must've been a event to watch.

 

[Saturnman]

The mountain cat is tiny in comparison.

 

[sirris]

Thats just awsome

 

[MrPing1000]

Dogs: "Holy Shit dude!"

 

[Tarazet]

The cat got caught in a trap.

 

[Ferny84]

The cat got caught in a trap.

and somehow the chains were wrapped around the mules mouth?

It wasnt a trap, the chains are some sort of leash for the mule.

 

[Ferrio]

I don't see what's hard to believe...

 

[AntoneM]

hell a kick from a mule could kill a human, it's not hard to believe that they would kill mountain lions as well.

 

[DarienA]

Let's go to the scorecard:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/mulelion.asp

Status: Undetermined.

Origins: We don't yet have any leads on when, where, or by whom these pictures were taken, so we can't say anything definitive about what they depict.

It's quite possible that, as often happens, the photographs are real, but someone has fabricated an inaccurate description to accompany them. For example, in the first picture the mountain lion appears to have a trap and/or chain fastened to one of its legs, and none of the photographs convincingly demonstrates that the big cat was alive at the time the pictures were taken. It might be, therefore, that the mountain lion had already been caught and killed by other means, and this sequence of photographs simply shows the equine picking up its lifeless body.

 

[totoro'd]

Let's go to the scorecard:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/mulelion.asp

Status: Undetermined.

Origins: We don't yet have any leads on when, where, or by whom these pictures were taken, so we can't say anything definitive about what they depict.

It's quite possible that, as often happens, the photographs are real, but someone has fabricated an inaccurate description to accompany them. For example, in the first picture the mountain lion appears to have a trap and/or chain fastened to one of its legs, and none of the photographs convincingly demonstrates that the big cat was alive at the time the pictures were taken. It might be, therefore, that the mountain lion had already been caught and killed by other means, and this sequence of photographs simply shows the equine picking up its lifeless body.

If the cat was already dead, what would motivate a mule to pick it up like that with it's mouth, and stomp on it? I would think the mule would've only reacted that way if the cat was still thrashing around, etc.

 

[Lucky Forward]

He wanted to impress the dogs.

 

[SteveMeister]

and somehow the chains were wrapped around the mules mouth?

It wasnt a trap, the chains are some sort of leash for the mule.

They're not chains, they're reins. They look a little like chains in one of th shots because they are flat strips of leather that have been twisted by the violent actions of the mule and lion. But I see no actual chains of any kind.

 

[border]

It might be more convincing if we saw the mountain lion doing anything other than lying limp. Could easily have been killed or sedated prior to the mule encounter.

 

[Days like these...]

Why is it so hard for some to believe that a mule could kill a mountain lion? They are very powerful and about 2 or 3 times as large as a mountain lion.

 

[tt_deeb]

Not sure how reasonable this observation is but the dog in the last two pics is standing EXACTLY the same.

 

[Do The Mario]

Why the fuck would a Mule pick up a mountain lion?

There is no reason to? I may be a fuckin drunk zoologist but I don’t understand why they fuck a mule would pick up a dead carcass?


P.S I out skulled Americans for the 2nd week in a row!

 

[border]

If the mule kicked the lion it might be a convincing story. But that's not what they're trying to sell us. I'm not buying that the lion was really put into submission by being bitten by a mule's flat herbivore teeth....

 

[Lil' Dice]

I can't believe you people bough this shit. Mules aren't predatory animals, they don't run of and attack animals who prey on them. Horses, mules and donkeys have the instincts of animals which are preyed upon, they run at the slightest sign of danger NOT attack, especially something like a goddamned mountain lion.

 

[Do The Mario]

I can't believe you people bough this shit. Mules aren't predatory animals, they don't run of and attack animals who prey on them. Horses, mules and donkeys have the instincts of animals which are preyed upon, they run at the slightest sign of dancer NOT attack, especially something like a goddamned mountain lion.

Yes mules are hot dancers

Just like Travolta!

P.S

As the most Qualified Person on GAF to comment about such things this is ARSE!

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

anybody notice that in the third pic the mule isnt actually holding onto the cat with it's mouth? look closely.

 

[KiNeSiS]

So much for you GA cat lovers!

"Lets get a couger against a dog AWWWW HYUK!"

Well jackasses it looks like a JackAss sonned the premier of your pet of choice.

 

[Boogie]

P.S I out skulled Americans for the 2nd week in a row!

Hooray for you. Now here's a new challenge:

Try to go a week on here without posting about "Americans".

 

[Bboy AJ]

The last two pictures prove its invalidity.

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

Hooray for you. Now here's a new challenge:

Try to go a week on here without posting about "Americans".

That is a statictical impossibility.

 

[SteveMeister]

I can't believe you people bough this shit. Mules aren't predatory animals, they don't run of and attack animals who prey on them. Horses, mules and donkeys have the instincts of animals which are preyed upon, they run at the slightest sign of danger NOT attack, especially something like a goddamned mountain lion.

Exactly like war horses do, right?.

Horses WILL DEFEND THE HERD. This is also an instinct. And it is WELL within a mule's capacity to kill a mountain lion. Horses kill people occasionally in a similar fashion, and people are bigger than mountain lions.

I believe the mule did kill the lion. I don't think there's conclusive evidence that the lion was alive in these pictures, but I doubt the mule would have bothered with a dead animal. Also, I don't see any evidence at all in these photos that the lion was trapped.

Horses (and mules) are big, tough, powerful animals. They are flight animals, but then again so are bison, and do you doubt that they defend themselves?

 

[Drozmight]

Why wouldn't it be bothered with a dead animal? Especially one that's you know... trained to do what it's owners tell it to do.

The mule isn't wild... and even though it's a strong animal, so is the lion, you'd think that the lion would have dug his claws into the mule a couple times. Why if the mule took on the lion would it not bleed?

Edit: Also, in the last two pictures, the lion is described as being "pretty much dead." Them there mule love throwin around bodies.

 

[mr.beers]

shrek: donkey.....

 

[SteveMeister]

Don't you think that if this was set up -- that the owners had trained the mule to maul a chained and/or dead lion -- that they would have more pictures, or possibly even video, since they'd have known it was going to happen?

And the point you're trying to make in your edit is fallacious. The mule wouldn't have attacked a dead lion, but it might whale away for a while on one that it had been alive when the mule attacked it, even though the lion died during the attack.

 

[Cimarron]

wish there was a video. That would have been a site to behold.

 

[Drozmight]

Maybe they thought ahead.

It said they shot at it and might have hit it, and then the mule and lion did some gladitorial battle. Either the mule won because the lion was already dying... it died before they fought, but mule still considered it a threat... it was staged... or they actually did fight and the mule won. I kinda find it hard to believe that a mule could take on a lion without being severely wounded.

 

[luxsol]

In Texas they put mules out in the fields to protect herds (of what? i forgot) against coyotes. They do attack and kill coyotes, but a mountain lion is much bigger than a coyote. This just proves that mules will attack if provoked by a predatory animal and could potentially kill a mountain lion.

These pictures look pretty real to me. I've seen a mule attack dogs before and these look pretty consistent to how it tried to fight the dogs (bites, kicking, and using its weight to crush). I'm not sure how bad a mule bite could be, but I've been told that they can break bones.

And i found a nice... report stating how donkeys and mules can be used to protect sheep from predators.
http://www.agr.state.tx.us/pesticide/brochures/pes_donkeys.htm

Advantages of Donkeys

Under proper conditions guard donkeys can provide a high degree of around-the-clock protection against dogs and coyotes. They may also offer some protection from foxes and bobcats; however, larger predators such as mountain lions, grey wolves and black bears may prey on donkeys

 

[alejob]

I can't believe you people bough this shit. Mules aren't predatory animals, they don't run of and attack animals who prey on them. Horses, mules and donkeys have the instincts of animals which are preyed upon, they run at the slightest sign of danger NOT attack, especially something like a goddamned mountain lion.

I'll pick on you some more. An old man that used to work at my grandfathers farm had a mule. There was this one time where he got pissed at the mule cause he was riding the mule and pack group of wild pigs run infront of him and a jaguar was chasing them. He said his mule was loosing its instincts cause it didn't do anything, normaly when they see a predator they get pissed and go crazy, they start kicking and jumping and stuff. They don't run away.


And because Kinesis asked for it:

 

[Brannon]

Horses don't kill? I'd like to go on the planet where horses don't kill, cuz here, many of them will fuck up an attacker. Especially wild horses; you just don't mess with them unless you're damn good an ready.

 

[Gek54]

I know llamas are kept to protect sheep and goats from coyotes and bobcats here in Texas. If water buffalo will stand up to a lion in Africa, its not hard for me to believe this big mule would do the same to a little mountain lion. The fact that it picked up the cat with its teeth seems familiar. That was one pissed off mule.

 

[Mercurial]

This just another testament to how bad-ass cats are.

People are always surprised when an animal 2 or 3 times larger and more powerful than a cat ends up killing the cat.

 

[hXc_thugg]

When I was a tiger, I used to get killed by mules all the time.

 

[Lil' Dice]

I'll pick on you some more. An old man that used to work at my grandfathers farm had a mule. There was this one time where he got pissed at the mule cause he was riding the mule and pack group of wild pigs run infront of him and a jaguar was chasing them. He said his mule was loosing its instincts cause it didn't do anything, normaly when they see a predator they get pissed and go crazy, they start kicking and jumping and stuff. They don't run away.

I once ate an antire bowl of Legos, then rode an ice dragon through some narrow downtown streets

 

[XMonkey]

I believe it. The mountain lion doesn't even look very big at all, I'm sure the mule could take it on.

 

[KiNeSiS]

I'll pick on you some more. An old man that used to work at my grandfathers farm had a mule. There was this one time where he got pissed at the mule cause he was riding the mule and pack group of wild pigs run infront of him and a jaguar was chasing them. He said his mule was loosing its instincts cause it didn't do anything, normaly when they see a predator they get pissed and go crazy, they start kicking and jumping and stuff. They don't run away.


And because Kinesis asked for it:

Here kitty kitty kitty...
*gives them a bowl of milk*


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