My mom is getting into some weird things and it's scaring me
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Some of the huge monolithic rocks require tons of machinery to lift even today. How the fuck did people use to do it up the side of a mountain. Easier for me to believe aliens
I'm not sure if you're serious (don't see a /s). The more plausible explanation than aliens is that you were too lazy to use Google and do a simple search ;-) Seriously though, for the most part how the pyramids were likely built has been pretty well explained, and the information is available to anyone with a computer and internet access.
SCR
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maybe this is just how old people reconnect
like in the old days, they would just go back to thinkin of racist shit since thats what they remember the most
and now, with the baby boomers, all they remember is aliens and werewolves and black lagoon creatures and snuffleapagus, so when these shows have "new evidence" and shoot it documentary style, they just latch onto that .
and in 2077, there'll probably be shows about computer born viruses infecting humans and dudes marrying gay zombies and well all be like i knew it and watch that stuff all day
like in the old days, they would just go back to thinkin of racist shit since thats what they remember the most
and now, with the baby boomers, all they remember is aliens and werewolves and black lagoon creatures and snuffleapagus, so when these shows have "new evidence" and shoot it documentary style, they just latch onto that .
and in 2077, there'll probably be shows about computer born viruses infecting humans and dudes marrying gay zombies and well all be like i knew it and watch that stuff all day
AA is one of my favorite shows just to chill and and see how wacky it gets. They really went off the rails around season 3 and started going into shit like Da Vinci was chilling out and using his personal black hole in a cave to travel to the future and get designs so he could make stuff.
My mom started to eat up all that conspiracy crap a few years back. She thought that sunspots were going to knock out all of the world's telecommunications in 2012, and when that didn't happen she jumped on board the Niburu train, believing that the government is suppressing the fact that a giant planet is going to collide with earth in the near future.
I don't know why she believes this stuff. I think part of it is gullibility. She can't tell the difference between truth and fiction in all those shitty learning channel, history, discovery channel "documentaries". I think the other part is some innate human belief that we are the center of the world. People who prescribe to doomsday beliefs always seem pretty sure that they will live to see said doomsday. The older (and closer to death the get) the closer doomsday must be.
I don't know why she believes this stuff. I think part of it is gullibility. She can't tell the difference between truth and fiction in all those shitty learning channel, history, discovery channel "documentaries". I think the other part is some innate human belief that we are the center of the world. People who prescribe to doomsday beliefs always seem pretty sure that they will live to see said doomsday. The older (and closer to death the get) the closer doomsday must be.
Majima Everywhere System
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Let her enjoy her time on the planet instead of crushing her dreams. Aliens and Satan make life less dull.
I also love how it's both because God should disprove aliens, and aliens should disprove God. But now, why not both because fuck you son.
I also love how it's both because God should disprove aliens, and aliens should disprove God. But now, why not both because fuck you son.
Messofanego
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Funny thing is, crazy cool sea creatures are more interesting than this supernatural stuff. We need to go deeper.
LAUGHTREY
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What happens to people who just start to descend into this spiral all of a sudden? Why does it happen?
People start watching some crazy shit, googling random things, give it 2 weeks and they're out of control with the weird theories about aliens and hidden planets and shit.
My girlfriend fell for the mermaid "documentary" thing too. I had to show her the website where they say its fake before she would believe me. Is it that girlish fantasy to want to believe so bad in the mythical that they just put on blinders and willfully go into confirmation bias mode?
Recognizing CGI and photoshop should be a mandatory class in middle school/high school.
People start watching some crazy shit, googling random things, give it 2 weeks and they're out of control with the weird theories about aliens and hidden planets and shit.
My girlfriend fell for the mermaid "documentary" thing too. I had to show her the website where they say its fake before she would believe me. Is it that girlish fantasy to want to believe so bad in the mythical that they just put on blinders and willfully go into confirmation bias mode?
Recognizing CGI and photoshop should be a mandatory class in middle school/high school.
As for ancient aliens and the pyramids... people seriously underestimate just how much you can do with a good understanding of basic leverage, some hard labor and a decent architect. Modern case in point: Coral Castle, Florida. It was built by just one single guy, an immigrant from Latvia named Edward Leedskalnin, starting in the 1920s until his death in 1951.
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Each of those limestone blocks weigh several tons. The largest weigh as much as 30 tons.. One of the main features is a gate so well balanced that it could easily be opened by a child using only one finger, despite weighing as much as 9 tons - it broke down in 1986 and when it was repaired it was revealed that it had been connected to an old truck bearing which had rusted. It was repaired again in 2005 but doesn't open as easily anymore.
Fact is, the achievement is so great - and the creator sufficiently secretive and eccentric - that people insisted he used magic even as it was being built! Teenagers claimed that they had seen multi-ton blocks hovering as if they were helium balloons. Some consider it supernatural to this day, it featured on "In search of..." among other things. The picture I included is from a site that refers to theories how "...he had rediscovered the laws of weight, measurement, and leverage and that these concepts involved the relationship of the Earth to celestial alignments. He claimed to see beads of light which he believed to be the physical presence of nature's magnetism and life force, or what we term today, 'Chi'. Many people report that he used harmonics combined with grid energies and celestial alignments to do his work."
Like I said, he was eccentric. If you asked him how he built it he claimed only to have rediscovered the secret of the pyramids which is obviously meant to be a very open ended answer. If pushed he admitted that he simply understood the laws of weight and leverage well. A book named Coral Castle Construction was released in 2005 that explains how basic engineering principles are more than enough to explain it which in my mind takes nothing away from the astonishing achievement that it is.
Each of those limestone blocks weigh several tons. The largest weigh as much as 30 tons.. One of the main features is a gate so well balanced that it could easily be opened by a child using only one finger, despite weighing as much as 9 tons - it broke down in 1986 and when it was repaired it was revealed that it had been connected to an old truck bearing which had rusted. It was repaired again in 2005 but doesn't open as easily anymore.
Fact is, the achievement is so great - and the creator sufficiently secretive and eccentric - that people insisted he used magic even as it was being built! Teenagers claimed that they had seen multi-ton blocks hovering as if they were helium balloons. Some consider it supernatural to this day, it featured on "In search of..." among other things. The picture I included is from a site that refers to theories how "...he had rediscovered the laws of weight, measurement, and leverage and that these concepts involved the relationship of the Earth to celestial alignments. He claimed to see beads of light which he believed to be the physical presence of nature's magnetism and life force, or what we term today, 'Chi'. Many people report that he used harmonics combined with grid energies and celestial alignments to do his work."
Like I said, he was eccentric. If you asked him how he built it he claimed only to have rediscovered the secret of the pyramids which is obviously meant to be a very open ended answer. If pushed he admitted that he simply understood the laws of weight and leverage well. A book named Coral Castle Construction was released in 2005 that explains how basic engineering principles are more than enough to explain it which in my mind takes nothing away from the astonishing achievement that it is.
| Praxis |
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My mum visits a group medium every week, so I know where you're coming from. If she tries to talk to me about it I have to stop her, as I find anything like that to be ridiculous. Luckily she doesn't bring that or ghosts or other nonsense up in my presence, but it is still worrying. She was so rational when she was younger. What can you do though? Just let them get on with it I guess.
Secret Fawful
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How soon before OP posts a topic saying that his Mom told him she believes his Dad was an alien?
Joe Shlabotnik
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If it doesn't escalate then it's mostly harmless, yeah, but I understand OP's concern that she seems to have glommed into this so quickly and dramatically.
SugarDaddy
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To start this off, I usually consider my mom to be a rational person. She has her moments (for example, she actually believed that bogus "documentary" about mermaids that aired a couple of years ago until I proved it was all a lie), but she's always been grounded in reality. That apparently changed a little over a month ago.
I was moving away from my college apartment to head back to my hometown, and I had my family come over to help me. The first day they were there, I heard my mom make a one-off comment about Satan. My mom and most of my immediate family are Catholic (although not really all that active anymore), so I didn't think anything of it. Then she talked a little more about Satan the next day, and once again the following day on the car trip home from the airport. At that point, I asked her why she was talking so much about Satan all of a sudden.
I don't remember much of the details, but long story short, some other members of my family told her about some "uncanonical" book from the Bible called the Book of Enoch. Part of that book tells a story about fallen angels, which is where the whole Satan thing comes from, I guess. For whatever reason, she has been totally into it, with a fervor that seems to eclipse the actual Bible.
I decided to let that topic go, since I figured that it'll just be a passing thing like most of the other things she gets into. However, over the next few days, she doubled down on it. Then through some leap of logic I can't explain, she basically connected the stories of the Book of Enoch to aliens. Yes, aliens.
Now, I'm not into religion whatsoever and would rather not get into debates about that sort of thing, so I let her have her fun. It wasn't really my place to tell her not to believe in something, even if it makes me uncomfortable to know how weird those beliefs are. What happened next made me realize how dire the situation is, though.
Recently, she has been watching a certain little show on the History channel: Ancient Aliens. And let me tell you, she has been eating it all up. For example, according to that show, the ancient Egyptians created nuclear power through their pyramids to power up alien ships. Oh, and Leonardo Da Vinci was abducted for two years, which apparently gave him the ideas he had for his contraptions such as the flying machine. She also thinks that people from 2000+ years ago were too idiotic to build any of their cities without "outside help". When I question these, she tells me that they are indisputable facts.
One more thing, you know who is on this show?
This guy.
MY MOM IS TAKING THIS FREAKING GUY SERIOUSLY.
I told my mom how much of a joke this guy is to pretty much every normal human being on the planet, but she dismisses it by saying that people only make fun of him because of his hair (you can pretty much hear me facepalm hard at this point).
So GAF, how on earth can I bring her, well, down to earth? It seems that telling her to use her common sense isn't enough here, and I'm afraid that this will lead to more BS conspiracy stuff later down the road if she can be this easily manipulated. This needs to stop before it gets out of hand, because at this point she is still relatively normal.
Has your mom gone through menopause recently?
Unhandled Exception
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There are people who believe that aliens who have visited earth (abductions etc) are actually the demons of the bible.
Anyway, OP, don't sweat it so much. Sometimes people get bored of their thought paradigm and move onto new things. There's not much you can do but make sure she doesn't get taken advantage of by the many, many snake oil salesmen out there. Even then she's going to do what she wants to. It's only as weird as you let it become for you.
Anyway, OP, don't sweat it so much. Sometimes people get bored of their thought paradigm and move onto new things. There's not much you can do but make sure she doesn't get taken advantage of by the many, many snake oil salesmen out there. Even then she's going to do what she wants to. It's only as weird as you let it become for you.
shadyspace
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What are you, the mind police OP? So long as she's not giving money to con artists it's none of your business what she believes.
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Transhuman
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Some of the huge monolithic rocks require tons of machinery to lift even today. How the fuck did people use to do it up the side of a mountain. Easier for me to believe aliens
Imagine you were the richest man on earth back then and all you had was slaves and food and rocks. I bet you'd start stacking shit too.
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Deleted member 13876
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The El Shaddai game would be a great gift.
But yeah, keep an eye on it. Seems fairly harmless at the moment but you're probably a better judge of that.
But yeah, keep an eye on it. Seems fairly harmless at the moment but you're probably a better judge of that.
Arkos
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There is literally an episode where they posit precisely that lol. I think it's called "The Einstein Effect"
Me_Marcadet
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As for ancient aliens and the pyramids... people seriously underestimate just how much you can do with a good understanding of basic leverage, some hard labor and a decent architect. Modern case in point: Coral Castle, Florida. It was built by just one single guy, an immigrant from Latvia named Edward Leedskalnin, starting in the 1920s until his death in 1951.
Each of those limestone blocks weigh several tons. The largest weigh as much as 30 tons.. One of the main features is a gate so well balanced that it could easily be opened by a child using only one finger, despite weighing as much as 9 tons - it broke down in 1986 and when it was repaired it was revealed that it had been connected to an old truck bearing which had rusted. It was repaired again in 2005 but doesn't open as easily anymore.
Fact is, the achievement is so great - and the creator sufficiently secretive and eccentric - that people insisted he used magic even as it was being built! Teenagers claimed that they had seen multi-ton blocks hovering as if they were helium balloons. Some consider it supernatural to this day, it featured on "In search of..." among other things. The picture I included is from a site that refers to theories how "...he had rediscovered the laws of weight, measurement, and leverage and that these concepts involved the relationship of the Earth to celestial alignments. He claimed to see beads of light which he believed to be the physical presence of nature's magnetism and life force, or what we term today, 'Chi'. Many people report that he used harmonics combined with grid energies and celestial alignments to do his work."
Like I said, he was eccentric. If you asked him how he built it he claimed only to have rediscovered the secret of the pyramids which is obviously meant to be a very open ended answer. If pushed he admitted that he simply understood the laws of weight and leverage well. A book named Coral Castle Construction was released in 2005 that explains how basic engineering principles are more than enough to explain it which in my mind takes nothing away from the astonishing achievement that it is.
There's also the "Palais idéal" from Facteur Cheval in France.
In the same way, a postman built a castle from rocks he grabbed while working. It took him more than thirty years too.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Palais_Idéal_du_Facteur_Cheval_(7).jpg
I'm sure the same aliens were at play here.
StickSoldier
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Ask her to read more about Jesus and to watch a little less Ancient Aliens.... Aliens is such a broad term anyways. Maybe she should think of angels and devils instead of just using the term "aliens". Jesus gives knowledge to people who believe in him though, if they earn it through faith and knowledge of how things work.
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Went to a talk about the Easter Island a few weeks ago, where the professor of course mentioned the famous Moai statues. He'd visited the island many times and had done a great deal of research. One of the things he did, was reconstruct how the people were able to move statues from the groves to another part of the island. Turns out they "walked" the statues using a system of logs and cords. They successfully reproduced this using one of the statues on-site but it never got a big deal of attention. He sounded fairly pissed when a later team of American scholars roughly did the same thing with fake statues on a flat concrete floor and got worldwide press for it.
CastorTroy
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I dunno man. I'm not a believer in any one school of thought, but Ancient Aliens makes more sense than anything in the bible.
Messofanego
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Introduce her to this sitcom: http://youtu.be/9BuSUH4vt_I
Secret Fawful
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Wow. I was unaware. That's actually a pretty scary outcome now.
Rhomega Beta
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I've got it: God and Satan are the ancient aliens!
Just finished. Great watch!
Interesting view on the commonality of the 'Nephilim' myth; sounded a bit like they were referencing interbreeding with Neanderthals - though that's based on absolutely no evidence other than the phrasing used in the video.
impetuous_silly
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Who are you to 'bring your mother down to earth', are you her owner?
triplestation
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10/10
Just so everyone knows...the guy who made this video is a conservative Christian and inserts some of his own crazy beliefs. Most of it is good debunking of Ancient Alians, but toward the end he starts getting into Noah's flood and saying how it could be possible.
Yeah, that too.
Karsticles
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Someone who cares for her well being, maybe?
echoshifting
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The title led me to believe your mom had joined a cult or something. This is incredibly innocuous behavior, and I very much doubt there is anything you can do about it regardless.
LiquidMetal14
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Lol
Seriously, your mom needs to put down the TV controller and find something worthwhile.
block tower
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i feel for you OP, i've been spending more time with my father over the past few years because my mother remarried awhile back to this Christian guy. now she is "born again" and it sucks. always brings up God and other nonsense and has sort of soured our relationship. not sure why she felt so compelled to become religious but its disappointing. i remember growing up being raised by her and having a great relationship with her when she wasnt into all this religion. she's gotten better over the years but still centers much of her life around her "relationship with God". i stopped trying to convince her it's bullshit, it's her life, so live and let live i guess.
TheBryanJZX90
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You mentioned you're moving away from your college apartment to your hometown. Did you just graduate? Your mom is probably just worried about you, either worried that you won't find a job or worried about how you'll do in your new job. Big period of change, she's reacting to it in an odd way but it doesn't mean she's crazy.
That's fair but it is not the only answer.
People mentioned Ancient Aliens moving onto Leonardo having time traveling powers or something, and Leonardo is as European as it gets.
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Are you her only child? Is she divorced?
She's probably bored, has nothing to keep her busy. At that age she would expect to be a grandmother, and be too busy making herself helpful to her family. Now it's aliens, but it could have been playing WoW.
She's probably bored, has nothing to keep her busy. At that age she would expect to be a grandmother, and be too busy making herself helpful to her family. Now it's aliens, but it could have been playing WoW.
echoshifting
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I think the op would probably trade in ancient aliens for night elves, though.
As long as she doesn't start insisting night elves are real.
That's probably just pure anti-intellectualism. I looked it up to be sure and yeah, they literally even accused Einstein of having had alien help. The running theme seems to be that anyone really smart and successful had outside help. I guess that is supposed to make the audience feel more content about their own, presumably less successful lives. I suppose it's the same thing as other conspiracy theories assuming that every famous person from Kanye West to George W Bush cheated by getting everything handed to them by the Illuminati.
I'm not kidding. I can't find a celebrity that hasn't been accused of being part of the Illuminati. Googling "Justin Bieber Illuminati" gives you 24 000 000 hits. I think I would pity the Illuminati if that's true, now that I think of it.
Poltergust
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I'm simply concerned about what this kind of thing may lead into. This by itself is mostly harmless, but I'm getting some red flags by hearing her say some weird things that she never talked about before.
For example, I was watching Attack on Titan a couple of weeks ago and my mom saw a part of it. When that huge Titan came down through a bolt of lightning, she immediately linked it to the Book of Enoch, which has a similar story about giants coming down from the heavens or something like that. I mean, I can understand the stories having similarities and seeing her point that out, but she seemed convinced that Attack on Titan must have come from the Book of Enoch.
It just seems to be really weird to me to say these kinds of things with such conviction.
I already have grad school lined up, so I doubt that's the issue.
No and no. I have two sisters. One is married and with a child, but they live about 4 hours away, so my mom usually only sees them once, maybe twice a month. My other sister lives at home with her, although she goes out a lot. My dad works late almost every weekday, so she is usually by herself for most of the afternoon (at least when I was in college; now, she has me as company most of the time).
Also, the thought of my mom playing WoW is hilarious. Considering how awful she is with electronics, I'd love to see her attempt it.
Rosenskjold
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Come again?
TrafalgarLaw
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Is your mother having trouble focusing, concentrating, planning or thinking? Is she having any kind of hallunications, like hearing voices or hearing things? Noticed any behavioural changes or apathy (lack of emotions)? How is her grip on reality? If any of these are abnormal, seek medical (!) help since schizophrenia in older people usually has a bodily (somatic) cause.
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