My one-year old son was bit by a pit bull last night
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It's funny when you think that the dog has been licking his chops for two weeks when he looked at the child.
What actually happened was scary though. My almost two year old daughter got pounced by a puppy lab this weekend. Even though she now has three light scratches on her face and is probably afraid of dogs for life, that was funny.
Ninja Scooter
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If the dog clamped down on this kid the way they are "notorious" for doing, this story would be a lot more tragic. It sounds like the dog nipped at him, possibly even playfully, as dogs are known to do. It's just going to have a much greater effect on a tiny little 1 year old. This is something to be cautious about with ANY large breed of dog, which is why it's not a good idea to keep them around small children who have tendency to grab and pull at things like ears and tails, which can annoy them and lead to nipping and biting. I was a little asshole around dogs when I was a kid and as a result, was bit a lot, but there is a difference between a bite and an all out mauling or maiming.
EsotericManiac
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The dog can't be trusted. Does it need to attack it's owner or gravely injure someone to be put down?
Zoe
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The problem is it's hard to get rid of that behavior once it's been established.
Food aggression is another red flag that would likely get a shelter dog put down before it's adopted.
Somehow it doesn't surprise me you're creating a trolling stance against this. Not sure what issue you have with me, but it's cute.
Yes. People create a bond with their pets. I had a dog that attacked a visiting family member when I was a kid as well. We shot the fucking dog and buried it. Animals are animals. If they attack your loved ones or even other people, it's your responsibility.
vas_a_morir
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That's fucked up. Just because Pit Bulls account for like 90% of fatal dog attacks, doesn't mean they are 'disgusting.'
I mean, yeah, they are basically Zuul from Ghostbusters... but that's not fair. No Zuul attacks resulted in fatalities. So, Pits are actually statistically more dangerous than Zuul, so I would like to apologize to Zuul owners.
Pitbulls are notorious for their croc like bites. They are the only dog I know of that require a "break stick." Here is a quick quote to save you clicking: "Even the most well-behaved, docile Pit Bull could potentially find itself in a fight one day. Because of the strength of the jaws of a Pit Bull, once they've secured a hold on another dog they are tenacious and difficult to force to release. A break stick can quickly and easily help you get a Pit Bull to release another dog. Contrary to popular myth, this does NOT prove that Pit Bull's have locking jaws. Pit Bulls simply have a tenacity to hold on, and the break stick gives the owner leverage to get a stubborn dog's jaws open." Here is the link: http://www.realpitbull.com/breakstick.html
They are right about the lock jaw myth. Still, pitbulls have really strong jaws.
Note: This is a Pro-pitbull site, so they try to put it in a positive light.
Sorry to hear that about your son. I hate that breed and never let my dogs around them.
It is ultimately the dog owner's responsibility to understand their own dogs limits and behave accordingly. I think if you don't have kids yourself you shouldn't let your dog be around kids, even supervised. It takes that dog a split second to bite a child, no one is going to be able to prevent that.
There is also a lesson to parents. Don't trust other dog owners' word on how well behaved their dogs are. Even a well socialized dog may have only been socialized with adults. I never let my son approach neighbors' dogs who I know don't have young children as well.
If you are expecting a child and own a dog you should also take steps to train the dog for the child. For example pulling on the dogs ears and observing the reaction, interfering with their meals (swishing your hand in their bowls while they eat), etc.
There is also a lesson to parents. Don't trust other dog owners' word on how well behaved their dogs are. Even a well socialized dog may have only been socialized with adults. I never let my son approach neighbors' dogs who I know don't have young children as well.
If you are expecting a child and own a dog you should also take steps to train the dog for the child. For example pulling on the dogs ears and observing the reaction, interfering with their meals (swishing your hand in their bowls while they eat), etc.
The few ruin it for the rest. How many should die or be hurt by this breed until you're satisfied? 100? 1000? 10,000 maimed or dead? This breed goes after little kids, other dogs, anything for any reason.
Yeah, they're just fine.
Ninja Scooter
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I don't deny the fact that pitbull a have a much stronger bite, I'm just saying that's not likely what happened here otherwise the kid would have been in much worse shape.
BumblebeeCody
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I agree, I hate those dogs. All deserve to be put down.
People use the excuse "it's not their fault, their misunderstood" blah blah bullshit. How many times do you hear about pitbulls doing this and people give excuses for these dogs actions.
There is "It could've been worse, or it wasn't that much of a bad bite". It still bit someone regardless.
Tell 'em to put the dog down.
People use the excuse "it's not their fault, their misunderstood" blah blah bullshit. How many times do you hear about pitbulls doing this and people give excuses for these dogs actions.
There is "It could've been worse, or it wasn't that much of a bad bite". It still bit someone regardless.
Tell 'em to put the dog down.
shakin_haitian
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Sorry, I misunderstood your post then. In that case, you may be right. I think I read earlier that this dog did not get a chance to really bite down. Someone was there or something, which supports your point. However, if a person was not there... I shudder to think what would have happened. Pitbull biting methods are killer.
TheContact
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Not every time a dog bites the jaws lock. I've separated dogs from cats and other dogs before and the best way to separate them is to lift the hind legs of the dog attacking. Dogs get their power from their hind legs so if they are lifted they will let go most of the time. But a lot of times dogs will bite quickly and release. Pit Bulls have a bad name partly due to their unpredictable nature and the extra care and time and affection they need compared to other breeds
Again that pit bull needs to be put down. Don't let this happen to someone else because believe me it will
Again that pit bull needs to be put down. Don't let this happen to someone else because believe me it will
I follow your point about the jaws locking. However, you do not think that an animal with a "unpredictable nature" deserves a bad name? They are vicious animals and were bred to be like that. You can train a tiger to be nice, but it does not mean we should own them. Their dangers outweigh their benefits to society.
vas_a_morir
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Ok, here's the full story...not quite as vicious as originally relayed, but still ridiculous.
My wife had Jason (our 1-year old) in the bathroom with her. She was taking him with her to avoid letting him walk around the house by himself. She had been doing this the whole trip, actually. Anyway, our 4-year old, Tyson, was out in the living room on the couch, playing with his tablet. My brother-in-law, who is 15, was playing Xbox on the couch next to him.
Jason started pounding on the door, wanting out. My wife had put the dog out, so she called out to Tyson and told him to watch Jason for a minute. It was literally going to be less than a minute. Jason walked out to Tyson and was watching him play. Someone went and let the dog in, and it came up to my kids. My brother-in-law at this point was supposed to put her back out, but he kept on with his game.
My older son, grabbed Jason's hand and started to move him back, because he'd seen us move him away from the dog the whole time. When he pulled on Jason, the dog snapped. Luckily he was pulling on Jason, because it caused it to just graze him rather than clamp down. At that my wife was coming back into the room and she grabbed Jason and my brother-in-law had pulled the dog back. My father-in-law was on the other side of the room and he was just dumbfounded.
Scary situation, and it's more of a close call than something serious. Thank goodness.
Here he is late last night, after he got treatment. He has another puncture lower on his cheek, which is the one that will scar. That one next to his eye should not. The cut on his forehead most definitely will scar.
My wife had Jason (our 1-year old) in the bathroom with her. She was taking him with her to avoid letting him walk around the house by himself. She had been doing this the whole trip, actually. Anyway, our 4-year old, Tyson, was out in the living room on the couch, playing with his tablet. My brother-in-law, who is 15, was playing Xbox on the couch next to him.
Jason started pounding on the door, wanting out. My wife had put the dog out, so she called out to Tyson and told him to watch Jason for a minute. It was literally going to be less than a minute. Jason walked out to Tyson and was watching him play. Someone went and let the dog in, and it came up to my kids. My brother-in-law at this point was supposed to put her back out, but he kept on with his game.
My older son, grabbed Jason's hand and started to move him back, because he'd seen us move him away from the dog the whole time. When he pulled on Jason, the dog snapped. Luckily he was pulling on Jason, because it caused it to just graze him rather than clamp down. At that my wife was coming back into the room and she grabbed Jason and my brother-in-law had pulled the dog back. My father-in-law was on the other side of the room and he was just dumbfounded.
Scary situation, and it's more of a close call than something serious. Thank goodness.
Here he is late last night, after he got treatment. He has another puncture lower on his cheek, which is the one that will scar. That one next to his eye should not. The cut on his forehead most definitely will scar.
So many people don't realize and understand how the "stare down" interaction effects animals.
The "Stare-down" is an act of dominance for a lot of dogs. Some trainers teach that the owner should do this with their dog until the dog looks away so the dog learns who is the boss.
And it is well known that these same animals will use this tactic on other animals.
Kids don't know this, and young kids do tend to just stare at points of interest for long uninterrupted periods of time.
It is very likely that this dog felt he was being challenged by something much smaller and weaker than himself and after there was no reaction to his different demonstrations of power and dominance he did what instinct tells him to do. He defended his honor and ranking in the animal kingdom and attacked.
It is very common for certain breeds to eat the eyes and faces out of stuffed animals for the same reasons. I had a dog do this and that's when I started investigating the reason.
So the attack was likely not "unprovoked" at all. The dog had a really good primal reason for doing it.
And that really sucks cause I do believe that in a lot of cases once that animal has successfully established dominance in one situation they continue to feel more empowered and are much more likely to attempt a similar action again. Which is the most common reason for putting down an animal that has attached a human.
My opinion is similar to yours Jeff. There is no reason for the breed to exist, it is a creation of breeding experiments by man. And the level of damage that they can create if and when something like happens is very extreme.
But on the other hand they are incredibly beautiful, intelligent and loyal dogs.
My admiration for them is similar to comparing the physical specimen that Lebron is to every other SF in the history of the game.
Pits are beasts, they demand respect for the damage they can do and I agree that the next step is putting the animal down. It's unfortunate but my kids safety and the lives of everyone else around me is more important than the unpredictable strength of that individual animal.
The "Stare-down" is an act of dominance for a lot of dogs. Some trainers teach that the owner should do this with their dog until the dog looks away so the dog learns who is the boss.
And it is well known that these same animals will use this tactic on other animals.
Kids don't know this, and young kids do tend to just stare at points of interest for long uninterrupted periods of time.
It is very likely that this dog felt he was being challenged by something much smaller and weaker than himself and after there was no reaction to his different demonstrations of power and dominance he did what instinct tells him to do. He defended his honor and ranking in the animal kingdom and attacked.
It is very common for certain breeds to eat the eyes and faces out of stuffed animals for the same reasons. I had a dog do this and that's when I started investigating the reason.
So the attack was likely not "unprovoked" at all. The dog had a really good primal reason for doing it.
And that really sucks cause I do believe that in a lot of cases once that animal has successfully established dominance in one situation they continue to feel more empowered and are much more likely to attempt a similar action again. Which is the most common reason for putting down an animal that has attached a human.
My opinion is similar to yours Jeff. There is no reason for the breed to exist, it is a creation of breeding experiments by man. And the level of damage that they can create if and when something like happens is very extreme.
But on the other hand they are incredibly beautiful, intelligent and loyal dogs.
My admiration for them is similar to comparing the physical specimen that Lebron is to every other SF in the history of the game.
Pits are beasts, they demand respect for the damage they can do and I agree that the next step is putting the animal down. It's unfortunate but my kids safety and the lives of everyone else around me is more important than the unpredictable strength of that individual animal.
Ninja Scooter
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Turns out its the fault of video games.
Dark Octave
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All it takes is a second.
I feel like that is always the case. "How could this happen?"
I'm glad your kid is ok.
Like I said if it happened to my kid I would probably lose it.
yongeandcollege
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I'd want the dog put down if this was my kid.
IamMattFox
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Far Cry 3, if we want to be specific.
depths20XX
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So your wife was dropping a steamer and it smelled so bad your kid was banging on the door to get out?
Awkward situation but the best solution is just to keep the dog out the back when you go down the house. If the dog was adopted then there's no telling what treatment it once had. My staff is a rescue dog. He's as nice as pie but the previous owner seems to have burnt a mark into the top of his head. When he was found he had been tied up in the woods for some time. Scumbags.
After that update, I hope you do not push for putting the dog down. It was an unfortunate situation that could have been a lot worse, the duration of recklessness involved with all parties does not matter in this case. It could have been just ten second for all it is worth.
Hopefully a big enough deal will be made so that the owners of the dog will actually learn how to manage the dog when it comes to family members and territory.)
Hopefully a big enough deal will be made so that the owners of the dog will actually learn how to manage the dog when it comes to family members and territory.)
andthebeatgoeson
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That doesn't look as bad as I was worried about. That whole 'skull puncture' phrase at off alarm bells for me. Glad things aren't as bad. But look at the wounds every day. Redness of the skin is a warning.Ok, here's the full story...not quite as vicious as originally relayed, but still ridiculous.
My wife had Jason (our 1-year old) in the bathroom with her. She was taking him with her to avoid letting him walk around the house by himself. She had been doing this the whole trip, actually. Anyway, our 4-year old, Tyson, was out in the living room on the couch, playing with his tablet. My brother-in-law, who is 15, was playing Xbox on the couch next to him.
Jason started pounding on the door, wanting out. My wife had put the dog out, so she called out to Tyson and told him to watch Jason for a minute. It was literally going to be less than a minute. Jason walked out to Tyson and was watching him play. Someone went and let the dog in, and it came up to my kids. My brother-in-law at this point was supposed to put her back out, but he kept on with his game.
My older son, grabbed Jason's hand and started to move him back, because he'd seen us move him away from the dog the whole time. When he pulled on Jason, the dog snapped. Luckily he was pulling on Jason, because it caused it to just graze him rather than clamp down. At that my wife was coming back into the room and she grabbed Jason and my brother-in-law had pulled the dog back. My father-in-law was on the other side of the room and he was just dumbfounded.
Scary situation, and it's more of a close call than something serious. Thank goodness.
Here he is late last night, after he got treatment. He has another puncture lower on his cheek, which is the one that will scar. That one next to his eye should not. The cut on his forehead most definitely will scar.
Um no. Dog needs to be put down, period. If it did it once, it'll do it again.
Here's the thing: Grandpa Jackass should care more about having his fucking grandkids over in complete safety than his feelings about the dog. All it would've taken is an inch or two over and bam, kid's eye is damaged.
Jeff you're being too fucking soft. If I had a kid and my in-laws' dog attacked said kid, the dog would be put down. And if it isn't put down then the kids would never be brought back there. What if the dog would have gotten the kid's throat? The fucker bit his head and could have easily gotten the boy's throat instead.
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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That's scary stuff OP. Dog bite punctures can easily get infected, so be careful. Watch for any signs of swelling.
If it was my dog, I wouldn't wait to be told to put it down. It would be down in a matter of hours. I would never want to live with a dog like that.
If it was my dog, I wouldn't wait to be told to put it down. It would be down in a matter of hours. I would never want to live with a dog like that.
Pay more attention to the kid and things like this wont happen. You say it was unprovoked, but I doubt that. Somebody wasn't watching the kid and they aren't taking fault. If they had really seen that it was an unprovoked attack, I'm sure they'd have no problem getting rid of/putting the dog down.
Bahahah!
cyberheater
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This. I've had dogs and if they attacked a baby then they'd be put down. It's not even a debatable question.
Ok, here's the full story...not quite as vicious as originally relayed, but still ridiculous.
My wife had Jason (our 1-year old) in the bathroom with her. She was taking him with her to avoid letting him walk around the house by himself. She had been doing this the whole trip, actually. Anyway, our 4-year old, Tyson, was out in the living room on the couch, playing with his tablet. My brother-in-law, who is 15, was playing Xbox on the couch next to him.
Jason started pounding on the door, wanting out. My wife had put the dog out, so she called out to Tyson and told him to watch Jason for a minute. It was literally going to be less than a minute. Jason walked out to Tyson and was watching him play. Someone went and let the dog in, and it came up to my kids. My brother-in-law at this point was supposed to put her back out, but he kept on with his game.
My older son, grabbed Jason's hand and started to move him back, because he'd seen us move him away from the dog the whole time. When he pulled on Jason, the dog snapped. Luckily he was pulling on Jason, because it caused it to just graze him rather than clamp down. At that my wife was coming back into the room and she grabbed Jason and my brother-in-law had pulled the dog back. My father-in-law was on the other side of the room and he was just dumbfounded.
Scary situation, and it's more of a close call than something serious. Thank goodness.
Here he is late last night, after he got treatment. He has another puncture lower on his cheek, which is the one that will scar. That one next to his eye should not. The cut on his forehead most definitely will scar.
Put cocoa butter on the wound to help decrease scaring.
I would. I honestly would, but the family drama would be ridiculous. They've made it clear that the dog isn't going to be willingly taken. So instead we're not allowing the kids to visit if the dog will be present. It's the best we can do. We have asked them how they'll feel if it happens to another one of the grandkids, and my mother-in-law is convinced that it won't ever happen again.
My feeling is that the dog got away with drawing blood and all that happened was that he was chased outside for a while. Nothing taught her that what she did was completely unacceptable. She'll bite again, but I know for sure that it won't be my kids.
I'm terrified of the idea that my nieces and nephews will still be around that dog in the future.
crimzonflame
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I agree with putting the dog down
The Dog is old school. Played some Shinobi.
I really can't believe that there are people who don't want the dog to be put down. Do you guys know how we domesticated dogs? A big part of it was killing the ones that attack people or to be more pc, too wild.
chaostrophy
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Ban pit bulls and the asshole owners will just get other large strong dogs and fail to train them properly, they'll be just as dangerous.
Honestly, I'd burn the bridges here, child's safety is more important.
KernelPanic
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I love dogs but I would never ever let my kid visit the house where a dog that attacked him lives. Don't matter if he is outside.
I wouldn't care about family drama, IMHO either the dog goes or my kid is never over there period. There's already drama over such an attack.
Some risks aren't worth taking, and children's safety is one of them.
I wouldn't care about family drama, IMHO either the dog goes or my kid is never over there period. There's already drama over such an attack.
Some risks aren't worth taking, and children's safety is one of them.
Do your inlaws not care about their own fucking grandchildren?
Jesus christ, I'm sure they love the dog, but the dog almost killed their youngest grandchild. Their grandchild.
You don't want family drama? It's a little too late for that. Your inlaws almost killed your son by failing to control and properly train their dog.
Dude, just take that dog away and put it down or something even if they don't want to.
IMO.
You can look at the fox experiment in Russia to see it in action.
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