lilbaby Jesus
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Cmoooon say it already!
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NASA's Mars Science Laboratory |OT| 2,000 Pounds of Science!
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lilbaby Jesus
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Yes on top of some other shit though.
If I could live 1000 years, this would be amazing to witness.
RumblingRosco
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Organics as in, something that contains carbon? Or something that was once alive/is still alive that contains carbon?
organic compounds. nothing biological
lilbaby Jesus
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I don't know personally, go to ustream.com and see.
Yeah, I think the last guy said they can't rule out that what they found was external to Mars. It could have come from an external sources or something and they needed to run more samples over time to be sure, etc. etc. Not sure, I don't speak science fluently.
speculawyer
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Wouldn't this be much easier?
BTW, I like the thought of factories on Mars trying to pump out as much greenhouse gas as possible. Quite the opposite of what we want to do here now.
Byakuya769
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So it was announced that organic substances containing "water and sulfur and chlorine" were found on Mars by Curiosity. They now trying to analyze the origin (curiousity itself or debris or actually indigenous to Mars).
Huffpo "Reporting"
Organics on Mars Curiosity Rover
Huffpo "Reporting"
Organics on Mars Curiosity Rover
sweetvar26
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I did read about the huge discovery they made a week or so ago. Did they say anything about it at all?
orientalNoodle
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So are we still alone or not?
Even in a crowd, we're alone.
sweetvar26
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I hope they find a way to do it faster than 1000 years.
Biggest problem with terraforming Mars is figuring out how to create a strong magnetic field.
Um no.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I think other intelligent life being discovered would basically kill off most of the big religions... of course the aliens would probably wipe us off the face of the planet.
Not sure if that still gets filed in the win column or not. Hey, at least no more religion.
el retorno
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Nope, we'd just convert them
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...omer-the-Catholic-Church-welcomes-aliens.html
And mormon's already have aliens don't they? Or at least life on other planets
Which one?
That article makes it seem pointless.
Well, The Ineffable, for starters. Then the Creator Father. Then the Monad and his 12 Aeons.(potentially the same dude) Then the Lord Jesus Christ, followed by YHVH the Demiurge, and the angel Lucifer. Finally, the Great Attractor, just to cover any overlap.
I'd love for it not to be true, but most of humanity just wouldn't care. There'd be a lot of hoopla to start, but assuming they weren't blowing us up, everyone would go back to their day jobs.
I think most religions would be affected, but it's not like it's going to rock someone's deep-seeded beliefs. I'm hopeful that exposure to an alien culture might get people to think a bit more about it, but I don't think it'll ever really go away.
teruterubozu
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If aliens is the coup required for science to prevail over religion, then we're fucked.
How perfect do you want to do it? How controlled? What are goals?
Most likely the project is far faster than 1000 years, especially since as tech advances, the project can be accelerated. And if it is a runaway thing, as it could well be... well, it will accelerate itself. EDIT also, depending how radical methods you want to use... Burn a few comets in Mars' atmosphere and you can thicken the thing fast, though getting enough oxygen to it and reducing CO2 is going to be slow.
And primary issue definetly ain't creating a magnetic field, for it is practically impossible. Unless you somehow reignite the core-dynamo of Mars, don't even think about it.
Thickening the atmosphere is the best you can do and hope advanced medical tech can take care rest of the problems.
Maybe the article does make it seem pointless but it ain't: Don't keep all your eggs in one basket. Terraforming Mars or another planet is ESSENTIAL to continued survival of human species. If we don't venture to space and other planets, we'll die if something bad happens to Earth (or get stuck there forever). And we need to venture to other solar systems as well, if we stick to our system, we'll die for sure, eventually.
In short term it is pointless, but then pretty much anything happening in short term is pointless, despite people thinking in merely short term and thinking it important.
Aint both Earth and Mars gonna get destroyed at one point by the sun? Im not sure colonizing Mars is the best thing for humanity once we get the opportunity that is. I mean it could be for testing purposes but humans will need to move away from the Sun in the distant future, correct?
Byakuya769
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No one read my post, or were you seriously expecting alien life?
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Even if they found life, or remains of life, they would then say "We can't confirm that it didn't come from a meteorite that left the Earth after an impact of another meteorite on Earth!".
I think after Earth becomes inhabitable Mars will be habitable for millions of years. That seems worth it.
Byakuya769
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Do you know the time frame for either event? We can terraform mars and chill for billions of years as we figure out how to do interstellar travel.
Gorgon
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Nope, that report is wrong. They have no confirmation of organics.
In about 1 billion years Earth will be too hot for habitability. Mars will soon follow. But 1 By years is a loooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnggg time.
nelsonroyale
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A couple of billion years anyway (alot of estimates seem to be between 3-4.5 Ga, but it still seems pretty coarse)... I don't think we, as a species, need to worry about it. We might feel sentimental about our creator though, the earth.
Gorgon
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5 by is for the sun to go red giant. It will go too hot for sustaing life (specially macroorganisms) way before that at about 1-1.5 by from now.
billions?
The earth is absolutely fucked in 3-5 billion years when the sun becomes a red giant. It will be swallowed up by the Sun as it expands to 200x its current radius (and loses about 38% of its mass).
However, we're screwed much earlier than that.
In about 1 billion years, the solar energy released by the sun will cause Earth's oceans to evaporate, and all of the hydrogen from the water will be lost permanently to space. There will be very little water on the planet from that point on to the sun's red giant phase, though trace amounts may be detected as late as 2.5-3 billion years from now. Life won't be able to exist at scales larger than the microorganism level, though. It'll be too hot.
Earth will be similar to Venus for about a billion years, until the atmosphere gets lost to space and leaves earth as a dead planet with a surface of molten rock.
Basically, the sun is bombarding every planet with solar energy, and the atmospheres and surface hydrogen from each planet are gradually leaking out into space. It's not sustainable. The only way for survival is to ultimately leave the solar system.
Humans are very young: We've only existed for about 200,000 years. But the clock is ticking.
Byakuya769
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Oh ok, a billion. Sorry. I guess we better get to packing.
Regardless, it's silly to write off intra-solar colonization because of a billion year time horizon, as if there will not be any other compelling reasons to start getting some people off of Earth.
AstroNut325
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WeAreStarStuff
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Psh, in 2020 I should be standing on Mars snapping photos with my cell.
All men dream but not equally.
DrForester
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Insane Metal
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Incredible Panoramic view near Point Lake http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/716934main_pia16563b_full.jpg
It's ridiculously big!
It's ridiculously big!
Head of Vengarl
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So awesome. I browse this thread every once in a while just to get my mind re-blown that these pics are taken from another planet.
WeAreStarStuff
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NASA's Mars rover Curiosity has pulled out another item from its toolkit for the first time, using a brush to sweep Martian rocks clean of the planets ubiquitous red dust, the space agency announced Monday.
Curiositys first use of the Dust Removal Tool at the tip of its robotic arm marks another milestone for the rover, which has spent about five months on the Red Planet.
More here: http://www.space.com/19167-curiosity-rover-dusts-mars-rock.html
Curiositys first use of the Dust Removal Tool at the tip of its robotic arm marks another milestone for the rover, which has spent about five months on the Red Planet.
More here: http://www.space.com/19167-curiosity-rover-dusts-mars-rock.html
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