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NBC Cancels Hannibal after 3 Seasons. Show will now be shopped around at other venues

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Fuchs

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Fuck everything!
I really adore this show, and yeah it has got it's flaws, but goddamn, there are dozens of other shows that should be canceled as opposed to Hannibal.
This is just unfair and terribly rude.
 
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hamchan

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Wtf, one of the best shows on TV. God I hope Netflix picks this up. Or Amazon. Or anybody really, as long as the show lives.

I also don't blame NBC for this at all. They gave the show 3 seasons and what looks like free reign creatively. That's pretty good. If a show gets low ratings then what else are they supposed to do?
 
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SchrodingerC

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FUCK YOU NBC. One of the best shows on television and they go cancelling it.
Please Netflix, or any TV god, save this show!

I wish NBC announced the cancellation near the end of the season.
 
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yami4ct

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ivysaur12 said:
Huh.
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What? That makes little sense? If they can't get the rights and even changing the character name won't work, wouldn't it make more sense just to skip Silence and go right to the Hannibal? They could do it with very little change as far as I can tell.
 
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ivysaur12

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ezekial45 said:
The last I heard, MGM had the rights to SOTL and all characters created in that property, while everything before and after was fair game.

Also, Lifetime was trying to get their Clarice series off the ground or something. It be after SOTL and feature only Clarice and orgindl characters.
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It's not news that there were some rights issues with using the name Clarice. But Fuller had been open to making a Clarice stand-in if he couldn't get the rights. Also, what does that have to do with the show getting canceled? Like did Fuller say if NBC wouldn't help him get the rights, he'd take his show elsewhere? But then why cancel it now?

Very confused.
 
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serenewarfare

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ReturnOfTheRAT said:
Amazon doesn't seem that interested in the revival business. Netflix can open their bank for it.
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The problem with that is that Amazon has streaming rights to everything so far. So either Netflix buys the rights from Amazon, or picks up only the fourth season onward, which would kill the chance of building an audience.
 
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-griffy-

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ivysaur12 said:
It's not news that there were some rights issues with using the name Clarice. But Fuller had been open to making a Clarice stand-in if he couldn't get the rights. Also, what does that have to do with the show getting canceled? Like did Fuller say if NBC wouldn't help him get the rights, he'd take his show elsewhere? But then why cancel it now?

Very confused.
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Has to be erroneously conflating separate stories or something.
 
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Discotheque

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overcast said:
God fucking damn. I mean the ratings were low, but why God.

The show can be pretentious though. And I can see why that would turn off many. Hopefully somebody picks it up.
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i'm all for the visual design on this show, looks great.

the writing sometimes sucks though, and that dialogue...so bad sometimes. they all speak like robots. i think if fuller got somebody else on board this show could have been really special imo. because he's got a good cast and some damn good directors, but often times i'm just hearing psychobabble robotic dialogue.
 
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yami4ct

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ivysaur12 said:
It's not news that there were some rights issues with using the name Clarice. But Fuller had been open to making a Clarice stand-in if he couldn't get the rights. Also, what does that have to do with the show getting canceled? Like did Fuller say if NBC wouldn't help him get the rights, he'd take his show elsewhere? But then why cancel it now?

Very confused.
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Does MGM own those film rights worldwide? I'd assume. If not, perhaps this is some play for the foreign markets to still get a SotL Season 4. That still doesn't make much sense. What weird reasoning if so.
 
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Discotheque

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hopefully it gets it's couple more seasons somewhere else. 5 would be cool. especially if he went silence of the lambs next season.
 
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minx

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While disappointing after season 1 and 2 were great.... Season 3 has been pretty shit so far. It barely holds my attention so I can't imagine a newcomer watching season 3 and sticking with it.
 
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Blader

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If the Clarice rights issue is at the root of the cancellation, then how is shopping the show around an option at all? Rights issues will be rights issues no matter who's distributing, no?
 
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Verger

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Yeah, I don't blame NBC at all. They gave it so many chances and put up with it far longer than I'd expect from a network. I'd have believed for sure it'd never have lasted beyond the first season.

The numbers are just abysmal. But do the ratings only account for live viewers and not DVR's?

I ask because I never watch Live broadcasts anymore and hope that the low ratings are not because of that fact.
 
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NotTheGuyYouKill

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I didn't want to see this news, but here it is.

NBC allowing Hannibal to survive three seasons is a miracle. Period. For that, I'm grateful that Hannibal was allowed to live as long as it has. It's unlike anything else on TV.

Also, the American viewing public sucks.

I hope Netflix or Amazon pick it up. It's got a crazy obsessed fan base.
 
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Gamer @ Heart

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Blader said:
If the Clarice rights issue is at the root of the cancellation, then how is shopping the show around an option at all? Rights issues will be rights issues no matter who's distributing, no?
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Na man. The root of the issue is 1.8 million viewers during primetime. No licensing headache is worth that amount of viewers
 
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-griffy-

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ivysaur12 said:
Nah, Lesley is very good.
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In that case it's super weird. I can fully understand NBC not being willing to shell out for the Clarice rights if that was going to be needed for a season 4, but it seemed like Fuller had multiple ideas for going forward without Silence of the Lambs characters. It seems far more plausible the low ratings were the primary factor for cancellation.
 
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Futurevoid

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I knew it was coming but it doesn't minimize the sting of it. The fact that it got three seasons from NBC should be applauded considering the viewership.

Its one of the best shows on television and it deserves to continue on. I hope an Amazon or Netflix picks it up. It belonged on cable, not NBC anyways.
 
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yami4ct

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Verger said:
Yeah, I don't blame NBC at all. They gave it so many chances and put up with it far longer than I'd expect from a network. I'd have believed for sure it'd never have lasted beyond the first season.

The numbers are just abysmal. But do the ratings only account for live viewers and not DVR's?

I ask because I never watch Live broadcasts anymore and hope that the low ratings are not because of that fact.
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Nielson ratings take into DVR. I believe it's like DVR watching within 5 days of airing or something close to that.
 
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Mama Robotnik

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No anger towards NBC, they kept the series going for three seasons and I'm thankful for that.

If someone else picks it up, then great, I'd love to see more. But if they don't, well I hope for a nice resolution at the end of Season 3, and will remember it fondly as one of the most beautiful TV shows to grace the medium.
 
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ezekial45

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ivysaur12 said:
It's not news that there were some rights issues with using the name Clarice. But Fuller had been open to making a Clarice stand-in if he couldn't get the rights. Also, what does that have to do with the show getting canceled? Like did Fuller say if NBC wouldn't help him get the rights, he'd take his show elsewhere? But then why cancel it now?

Very confused.
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There was an awful lot of talk about this back when S1 was approaching its finish. Fuller mentioned that the rights for SOTL were off-limits and that they'd have to do some creative things to work around it.

But yeah, I'm still confused why, if that source is correct, why they'd cancel production of this series because they couldn't get the rights. They've done a great job of fleshing out and showing new.

Also, wasn't Fuller going to showrun another series on Starz.
 
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Ranger Taffles

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I can't care about who picks it up because right nowI'm just devastated. Emptiness. This show was one of the best around crime dramas with a superb psychological thriller feature. Season 3 is going to be really tough to watch now. Personally this is worse than the Terriers cancellation. But really what a show Bryan Fuller and the writers gave us. I'm always going to remember the absorbing atmosphere, production value, beautiful cinematography, and the horrors they entertained us with.
 
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ivysaur12

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ezekial45 said:
There was an awful lot of talk about this back when S1 was approaching its finish. Fuller mentioned that the rights for SOTL were off-limits and that they'd have to do some creative things to work around it.

But yeah, I'm still confused why, if that source is correct, why they'd cancel production of this series because they couldn't get the rights. They've done a great job of fleshing out and showing new.

Also, wasn't Fuller going to showrun another series on Starz.
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It was pretty understood that Fuller would do both American Gods and be very involved with Hannibal if Hannibal was renewed for season 4.
 
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serenewarfare

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I'd like to add that I also think this cancellation shows more of the flaws of our ratings system. The idea of extrapolating ratings info from a small subset of the population probably doesn't represent the actual numbers as much as it should. I know there aren't really any better options, but I do think the Nielsen system kind of sucks.
 
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Pejo

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They should do a ex-NBC Value Pack with this and Constantine, sold to Netflix.
In my dreams.
 
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evilromero

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I'm just waiting for the new seasons to hit Amazon Prime like I'm sure a lot of you are. So I'm part of the problem. I don't watch broadcast tv but rather just wait for my favorite shows to hit streaming.
 
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Extra Sauce

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I love Hannibal but season 3 made it seem like Fuller was daring execs to cancel the show at this point. It's a miracle that those particular episodes have been airing on a major network in the first place.
 
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