Need Advice!! How can I steal $200 from a GAF member for heroin as soon as possible?

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ElectricBlanketFire said:
OP tried the same thing on Reddit and got no replies.

And apparently uses adblock on GAF.
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Oh he done fucked up now.

Icefire1424 said:
Happened to notice Albatross' avatar in the work / life balance thread. I believe he is gainfully employed, don't see what he would personally have to gain from pulling a con. Unless OP is his brother or something.

Yes, I know your comment was sarcasm - but must defend the honor of the good GAFFERs out there.
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Oh yeah Albatross too... Make that a 3 man con!
 
CyanideStrike said:
Where do the staff stand on us, the everyday member of this community, messaging OP en masse, telling him we know exactly what he has done and that we all insist he does the right thing or face some sort of disciplinary action. Could that be seen as bullying?
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I'd say that could absolutely be viewed as bullying. Regardless if OP's actions were justified or not, vigilantism is never warranted. Let the mods take care of it.

DoktorEvil said:
Maybe?

There's a magnitude of difference between the OP and That story, one of which doesn't involve self-medication and actual reflection and the other involves a person who may be a total scumbag.
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I agree completely. Just interesting to hear the perspective of someone who has been in a similar situation. I was pissed when I read how kipp got shafted as well, but that comment did make me take a step back.
 
Admiral Bone to Pick said:
It's all an act though. Anyone can see that.
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Saganator said:
Reading the guy's history, the dude obviously does not come from the best upbringing. It's hard for me not to feel for the guy. I had some pretty rough years myself, age 19 to 25 or so were a nightmare for me. Part of my problems were my own fault, some of them were not. Going to college and having no financial support from my family was very hard and depressing, which lead me to making some pretty dumb decisions. I won't go into details, but I will say I highly doubt the OP started this thread with the intent to rip anyone off.

When I was 19, an internet friend of mine lent me $100 for a bus ticket to Dallas to play Team Fortress Classic in a tournament. I did not ask for it, but he insisted because my team needed me for the tournament, he was the leader, and a good guy. I thanked and promised him I would pay him back. It's been over 10 years and I still haven't paid him back. I still feel bad about it, for a long time that $100 I owed stuck in the back of my mind. I always wanted to pay the guy back, but there was a stretch of time where $100 was a lot of money for me. I'd definitely feel the loss of that $100, I would've definitely had to make some sacrifices to pay that $100, even if that sacrifice was something petty like a video game or beer. When you don't have shit and are barely making ends meet, that video game or beer/weed might be the only thing in your life that doesn't suck or make you depressed. I rationalized not paying the money knowing the guy who gave it to me was well off financially. That $100 for him would just make the number in his bank account go higher, while the $100 for me represented tangible things I would need/want in the near future. If I ever run into him again, I will gladly pay him back, and thank him for not badgering me or being a dick about it, as it just would've been another thing in my life to bring me down. Dorimukyasuto probably avoids you because he knows he fucked up and it just makes him feel like shit whenever he thinks about it. At least that is how I felt about the $100 I owed.

Not too sure what my point is, but, Dorimukyasuto is probably a decent dude deep down, just having some issues finding his way through life (and probably lacking some key guidance). I hope he did not start the thread or accept your money with the intent of ripping someone off for drugs.

Knowing what I know, and what I've been through life, I'd just let it go. Years from now, you may get your money back from him, with some added interest, but don't expect anything.
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You sound like a very reflective and considerate person. If you have the $100 now, and can pay him back, why not blow his mind by tracking him down and doing so?

Admiral Bone to Pick said:
It's all an act though. Anyone can see that.
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Do tell, because I don't want to think I'm being suckered in by buying into it :-/
 
CyanideStrike said:
Where do the staff stand on us, the everyday member of this community, messaging OP en masse, telling him we know exactly what he has done and that we all insist he does the right thing or face some sort of disciplinary action. Could that be seen as bullying?
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He's already taken the money and run.

The only one who should be dealing with this situation is Kipp, and if Kipp doesn't want to press it further, we need to respect his wishes.
 
Man, this sucks. I love GAF's community, I've done and have had favors done to me by outstandingly generous and helpful members, and I'd hate to see that stop out of untrustworthiness caused by happenings like these. Heck, if I had seen this thread when it was posted, I would have probably volunteered to chip in myself.

Shitty situation. I really hope it gets resolved somehow, like maybe OP just hasn't been able to get back to Kipp these past few days.
 
Kipp said:
Bringing this thread back from the grave.

So I ended up lending this guy $200. He was supposed to pay it back 5 days ago and has so far ignored my PMs asking him about it.

I've got his full name, address, and home phone number, but I don't really know how that can help me get my money back.

Any advice?

And before you go telling me how I was asking for it and whatnot... Yeah, I'm naive and expect people to be good people. Luckily potentially losing this $200 won't bankrupt me or anything, but I mean, it's still $200 and I'd still love to have it back...
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You are a really good guy Kipp. Sorry to hear you got ripped off.
 
CyanideStrike said:
Where do the staff stand on us, the everyday member of this community, messaging OP en masse, telling him we know exactly what he has done and that we all insist he does the right thing or face some sort of disciplinary action. Could that be seen as bullying?
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Why would you do this? That would be bullying. Even though OP is a punk, what would this accomplish?
 
maxcriden said:
You sound like a very reflective and considerate person. If you have the $100 now, and can pay him back, why not blow his mind by tracking him down and doing so?



Do tell, because I don't want to think I'm being suckered in by buying into it :-/
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DoktorEvil said:
I haven't been around long enough to see if it is or if it isn't, but I don't intend to question it.

People do have the capacity to change and grow, even via an online persona.
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Possibly, but I think it'd be pretty naive to believe that.

terrisus said:
Admiral, do you have a Bone to Pick?
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No, I'm just not afraid of confrontation.
 
shuri said:
For fuck's sake, don't say his name, he's going to come in here and flood us with walls of texts from his new 'socially aware' persona he's trying to convince us with for the past couple of months.
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I normally never agree with you, but boy this really hits the nail on the head.
 
Saganator said:
Reading the guy's history, the dude obviously does not come from the best upbringing. It's hard for me not to feel for the guy. I had some pretty rough years myself, age 19 to 25 or so were a nightmare for me. Part of my problems were my own fault, some of them were not. Going to college and having no financial support from my family was very hard and depressing, which lead me to making some pretty dumb decisions. I won't go into details, but I will say I highly doubt the OP started this thread with the intent to rip anyone off.

When I was 19, an internet friend of mine lent me $100 for a bus ticket to Dallas to play Team Fortress Classic in a tournament. I did not ask for it, but he insisted because my team needed me for the tournament, he was the leader, and a good guy. I thanked and promised him I would pay him back. It's been over 10 years and I still haven't paid him back. I still feel bad about it, for a long time that $100 I owed stuck in the back of my mind. I always wanted to pay the guy back, but there was a stretch of time where $100 was a lot of money for me. I'd definitely feel the loss of that $100, I would've definitely had to make some sacrifices to pay that $100, even if that sacrifice was something petty like a video game or beer. When you don't have shit and are barely making ends meet, that video game or beer/weed might be the only thing in your life that doesn't suck or make you depressed. I rationalized not paying the money knowing the guy who gave it to me was well off financially. That $100 for him would just make the number in his bank account go higher, while the $100 for me represented tangible things I would need/want in the near future. If I ever run into him again, I will gladly pay him back, and thank him for not badgering me or being a dick about it, as it just would've been another thing in my life to bring me down. Dorimukyasuto probably avoids you because he knows he fucked up and it just makes him feel like shit whenever he thinks about it. At least that is how I felt about the $100 I owed.

Not too sure what my point is, but, Dorimukyasuto is probably a decent dude deep down, just having some issues finding his way through life (and probably lacking some key guidance). I hope he did not start the thread or accept your money with the intent of ripping someone off for drugs.

Knowing what I know, and what I've been through life, I'd just let it go. Years from now, you may get your money back from him, with some added interest, but don't expect anything.
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Thanks for this post. A little bit of empathy goes a long way.
 
We don't need misguided attempts at internet justice here. We need to increase awareness that people recognize NeoGAF as a community with a lot of kind-hearted and generous people who are willing to help out fellow members, and as a result it's susceptible to scamming by scumbags. Don't give money unless a cause has been vetted, and don't fall for thinly veiled "I'm not asking for money, but what do I do, GAF?!" threads. This sort of donation request thread was banned for a reason.
 
What if op and Kip are the same person, and he's trying to fleece GAF out of $400?

Only joking, you're a good guy Kip, hope you get your money back.

I lent a friend £250 years ago, he kept on saying he couldn't pay me back, turns out he spent it all on weed. Kinda stopped bothering with him and he eventually paid me back, we're cool now though.
 
EviLore said:
We don't need misguided attempts at internet justice here. We need to increase awareness that people recognize NeoGAF as a community with a lot of kind-hearted and generous people who are willing to help out fellow members, and as a result it's susceptible to scamming by scumbags. Don't give money unless a cause has been vetted, and don't fall for "I'm not asking for money, but what do I do, GAF?!" threads. This sort of donation request thread was banned for a reason.
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Maybe consider closing such threads, then?
 
META said:
Maybe consider closing such threads, then?
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There's no point in closing it now except to shame the OP and/or get a response. The original topic was worded in such a way that it wasn't asking for money, but that they needed money advice, and someone happened to give to the person.
 
BreezyLimbo said:
There's no point in closing it now except to shame the OP and/or get a response. The original topic was worded in such a way that it wasn't asking for money, but that they needed money advice, and someone happened to give to the person.
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EviLore said:
We don't need misguided attempts at internet justice here. We need to increase awareness that people recognize NeoGAF as a community with a lot of kind-hearted and generous people who are willing to help out fellow members, and as a result it's susceptible to scamming by scumbags. Don't give money unless a cause has been vetted, and don't fall for thinly veiled "I'm not asking for money, but what do I do, GAF?!" threads. This sort of donation request thread was banned for a reason.
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The fact that this thread was still open is kind of surprising considering that asking for advice is essentially saying, "hey I'm not asking for a handout but can I have your money?"
 
META said:
The fact that this thread was still open is kind of surprising considering that asking for advice is essentially saying, "hey I'm not asking for a handout but can I have your money?"
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Mhm, but alotta times people do need advice requiring money that doesn't end in getting a donation. Unless Evil ore bans money advice threads in general.
 
maxcriden said:
I'm confused. I thought Amir0x's change of heart was legit and that his social concerns were genuine. Is it not possible that's the case?
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It may be genuine, just as it may not be. But based on the outrageous things that he has done or said on here, I'm content with glossing over most of his posts because frankly, I would rather take insight on social issues whom haven't done the things that he has. Plus, I have a bit of a soft spot when it comes to domestic violence due to stuff from my childhood so Im going to judge people much more harshly that engage in such behavior.

If you enjoy his posts then by all means, continue to do so. I'm just not a fan of things he has done, and I can't help but judge him based on them.
 
Unfortunate as this situation is, kudos to kipp for being a kind spirit. Hopefully this situation doesn't tarnish your good nature, just perhaps a bit more apprehension about who you help. I hope the OP does the right thing.
 
Saganator said:
Reading the guy's history, the dude obviously does not come from the best upbringing. It's hard for me not to feel for the guy. I had some pretty rough years myself, age 19 to 25 or so were a nightmare for me. Part of my problems were my own fault, some of them were not. Going to college and having no financial support from my family was very hard and depressing, which lead me to making some pretty dumb decisions. I won't go into details, but I will say I highly doubt the OP started this thread with the intent to rip anyone off.

When I was 19, an internet friend of mine lent me $100 for a bus ticket to Dallas to play Team Fortress Classic in a tournament. I did not ask for it, but he insisted because my team needed me for the tournament, he was the leader, and a good guy. I thanked and promised him I would pay him back. It's been over 10 years and I still haven't paid him back. I still feel bad about it, for a long time that $100 I owed stuck in the back of my mind. I always wanted to pay the guy back, but there was a stretch of time where $100 was a lot of money for me. I'd definitely feel the loss of that $100, I would've definitely had to make some sacrifices to pay that $100, even if that sacrifice was something petty like a video game or beer. When you don't have shit and are barely making ends meet, that video game or beer/weed might be the only thing in your life that doesn't suck or make you depressed. I rationalized not paying the money knowing the guy who gave it to me was well off financially. That $100 for him would just make the number in his bank account go higher, while the $100 for me represented tangible things I would need/want in the near future. If I ever run into him again, I will gladly pay him back, and thank him for not badgering me or being a dick about it, as it just would've been another thing in my life to bring me down. Dorimukyasuto probably avoids you because he knows he fucked up and it just makes him feel like shit whenever he thinks about it. At least that is how I felt about the $100 I owed.

Not too sure what my point is, but, Dorimukyasuto is probably a decent dude deep down, just having some issues finding his way through life (and probably lacking some key guidance). I hope he did not start the thread or accept your money with the intent of ripping someone off for drugs.

Knowing what I know, and what I've been through life, I'd just let it go. Years from now, you may get your money back from him, with some added interest, but don't expect anything.
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Someone barely making ends meet buying beer, weed and video games? While there are free or low cost alternatives for all these things? That seems stupid. But I guess some people would rather try to find temporary escape from their problems rather than actually fix them.
 
goldenpp72 said:
Unfortunate as this situation is, kudos to kipp for being a kind spirit. Hopefully this situation doesn't tarnish your good nature, just perhaps a bit more apprehension about who you help. I hope the OP does the right thing.
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The OP hasn't posted for over a week but was logged in about three hours ago.

I assume the mods are not banning him because that that would be throwing in the towel for the $200. There may be hope still...
I would be very surprised at this point though
 
maxcriden said:
I cannot imagine that would be condoned, productive, or necessary.
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Icefire1424 said:
I'd say that could absolutely be viewed as bullying. Regardless if OP's actions were justified or not, vigilantism is never warranted. Let the mods take care of it.
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Aquamarine said:
He's already taken the money and run.

The only one who should be dealing with this situation is Kipp, and if Kipp doesn't want to press it further, we need to respect his wishes.
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Brakke said:
Why would you do this? That would be bullying. Even though OP is a punk, what would this accomplish?
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EviLore said:
We don't need misguided attempts at internet justice here. We need to increase awareness that people recognize NeoGAF as a community with a lot of kind-hearted and generous people who are willing to help out fellow members, and as a result it's susceptible to scamming by scumbags. Don't give money unless a cause has been vetted, and don't fall for thinly veiled "I'm not asking for money, but what do I do, GAF?!" threads. This sort of donation request thread was banned for a reason.
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But wouldn't it enforce the fact that the members of NeoGAF have each others backs when it comes to situations such as this? I'm not suggesting or proposing we go in all guns blazing, and threatening the OP, just empathetically remind him that we, as a community, supported him and that Kipp went out of his way to fund him, and that he should do the right thing and pay Kipp back - or, at the very least, message him and explain to Kipp just what the hell is going on.
 
Nocebo said:
Someone barely making ends meet buying beer, weed and video games? While there are free or low cost alternatives for all these things? That seems stupid. But I guess some people would rather try to find temporary escape from their problems rather than actually fix them.
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If this surprises you, doing some research on the spending habits of people in poverty or bad financial situation would be even more shocking.


Not saying those things are solely to blame. Just with regards to the spending habits
 
CyanideStrike said:
But wouldn't it enforce the fact that the members of NeoGAF have each others backs when it comes to situations such as this? I'm not suggesting or proposing we go in all guns blazing, and threatening the OP, just empathetically remind him that we, as a community, supported him and that Kipp went out of his way to fund him, and that he should do the right thing and pay Kipp back - or, at the very least, message him and explain to Kipp just what the hell is going on.
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I'm sure some people have ALREADY messaged him regarding this. To get more people to pile on OP would be to become a mob and have mob mentality, and there is a stark difference between helping someone because you sincerely care about them and forming a mob for justice.
 
Man this thread is a much different thing than what I thought it was gonna be this morning. Damn.

I'm sorry you got jipped, Kipp.
 
CyanideStrike said:
But wouldn't it enforce the fact that the members of NeoGAF have each others backs when it comes to situations such as this? I'm not suggesting or proposing we go in all guns blazing, and threatening the OP, just empathetically remind him that we, as a community, supported him and that Kipp went out of his way to fund him, and that he should do the right thing and pay Kipp back - or, at the very least, message him and explain to Kipp just what the hell is going on.
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That's what people are using this thread for.
 
BreezyLimbo said:
I'm sure some people have ALREADY messaged him regarding this. To get more people to pile on OP would be to become a mob and have mob mentality, and there is a stark difference between helping someone because you sincerely care about them and forming a mob for justice.
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The thread title literally says the OP stole money from a GAF member for heroin. It's encouraging piling on.
 
So I was going through OP's Reddit history (his Reddit name is the same as his GAF name) and I found something that's deliciously ironic:

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So applicable to this situation, haha
 
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