. Just amateur photography. Equally split among outdoor and indoor. Lots of night time photos. Telephoto sounds good.
I guess as long as it provides some advantages over the 16-50mm lens. For now, maybe keep it!Under 500.
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I guess as long as it provides some advantages over the 16-50mm lens. For now, maybe keep it!Under 500.
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Unless the person is willing to lose the ability to zoom, it's unlikely they will get any kind of upgrade for under $500.
The closest pure upgrade would probably be the E PZ 18–105 mm F4 G OSS.
http://www.sony.com/electronics/camera-lenses/selp18105g
That would give you a lot more zoom range, image stabilization, and a consistent aperture width, although the kit lens probably allows for a wider aperture when not zoomed. A bit over budget, though.
The closest pure upgrade would probably be the E PZ 18–105 mm F4 G OSS.
http://www.sony.com/electronics/camera-lenses/selp18105g
That would give you a lot more zoom range, image stabilization, and a consistent aperture width, although the kit lens probably allows for a wider aperture when not zoomed. A bit over budget, though.
Vulcano's assistant
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NoRéN;228464343 said:
I'm not familiar with sony alpha lenses, but If they only have a 16-50mm lens and shoot a lot at night I would get them a prime lens (faster lens so better in lower light) ~50mm. That zoom they have probably doesn't go to F2.8, so a prime that opens to F1.8 would help at night.
But yes they are missing a telephoto lens aswell preferably a zoom for more versatility. What Zefah recommended is a lot more versatile than a prime lens for sure.
theepicoftyler
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NoRéN;228464343 said:
If autofocus is not a deal breaker for you, make sure to check out Samyang/Rokinon's lineup for E-Mount. Lots of solid prime lenses, and some very wide aperture lenses that are good for night time photography.
Lots to work with there, and they can be found relatively cheap depending on where/when you look.
This looks great! Thank you for taking your time to link this for me.
I looked up the 50mm prime lens (e version for the a6000 if I'm not mistaken) and I'm intrigued. The price is not bad at all and I should be able to swing for both. Unless it would be a redundant purchase?
I'm off to look these up. Thank you!
the better twin
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For night time photos and general shooting they definitely need a prime.NoRéN;228464343 said:
Some good all rounders are the SEL35f18, the sigma 30 f1.4 or the sel28f2 which can also be used on full frame and is nice and compact even for a crop.
For something a bit wider maybe consider the sel24f18z if you can find it for under 500 second hand. Otherwise the Samyang 21mm is fantastic, albeit a manual focus lens.
They are all much better than the kit and I'm sure they'd be happy with the aperture advantage of any of them.
Vulcano's assistant
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NoRéN;228495385 said:
It wouldn't be redundant. The other lens is a zoom with a lot of versatility in good lighting conditions, while you'll be getting them a prime for night photography. And the better twin has a better Idea than I do, something around 20mm-35mm seems a better fit than 50mm I suggested before.
m_shortpants
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I just bought the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 for my A6000, and it is a great lens. Very very sharp, but might not fit your exact need as a zoom lens. If you don't mind using your legs to frame a shot it's great for low light and it's very cheap for the results it provides, on par with Zeiss lenses.
holy hell! Thank you so much for all the help.
Ok, Ill be sticking to 35mm. I did some research and all the 35mm lenses suggested seemed good so since it's a first Prime lens I think I'll be getting the Sigma. It will be a nice surprise considering it will be an unexpected gift.
Thank you again!
sorijealut
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Random question: Which of these focal lengths do you guys like more?
35mm effective vs. 50mm effective?
I own both with my Fuji XT-1 & was quite sure I'd like the 35mm view, but actually I keep going to the roughly 50mm despite being a bit "narrow" sometimes. But this may be due to the fact that I take more portrait style photos than anything else!
35mm effective vs. 50mm effective?
I own both with my Fuji XT-1 & was quite sure I'd like the 35mm view, but actually I keep going to the roughly 50mm despite being a bit "narrow" sometimes. But this may be due to the fact that I take more portrait style photos than anything else!
opticalmace
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I was checking some stats on what focal lengths I tend to use more just last week. I apparently shoot at 50mm 2:1 vs 35mm (on my zoom lenses). But, YMMV?
For portraits I have a 80mm equivalent prime (50mm aps-c) I like to use.
50mm equivalent is perfect for me.
That said my next lens is the 35mm 1.8 or 1.4 ... can't decide how much I want to spend yet.
I also need to get a 2nd body. (Mostly for video) don't think I want a Sony, gh5 not out yet, d500 is mighty tempting but I've read it does a 2.25x crop at 4K. That's pretty much micro 4/3s sensor size so might as well wait for gh5.
That said my next lens is the 35mm 1.8 or 1.4 ... can't decide how much I want to spend yet.
I also need to get a 2nd body. (Mostly for video) don't think I want a Sony, gh5 not out yet, d500 is mighty tempting but I've read it does a 2.25x crop at 4K. That's pretty much micro 4/3s sensor size so might as well wait for gh5.
jongkookie
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Yeah, 50mm for me as well.
35mm is definitely a little more interesting but it just doesn't feel right for portraits. Now if all you're doing is street photography or where the subject needs to fit in a wider frame then it'll definitely work and is probably loads better than the 50.
50mm on the other hand feels right for portraits(though 85mm is the best IMO), street photography is still possible(provided you've got some space behind you) and more importantly it works in any kind of situations.
35mm is definitely a little more interesting but it just doesn't feel right for portraits. Now if all you're doing is street photography or where the subject needs to fit in a wider frame then it'll definitely work and is probably loads better than the 50.
50mm on the other hand feels right for portraits(though 85mm is the best IMO), street photography is still possible(provided you've got some space behind you) and more importantly it works in any kind of situations.
finalflame
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I use a 23mm f/1.4 (35mm effective) for walking around and shooting most things, and a 56mm f/1.2 (85mm effective) for portraits and product shots and whatnot on my X-T2. If I had to a single lens for both things it might be the 50mm effective, though.
JadedWriter
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For walk around I use a 24-70 and for portraits I use an 85 and a 70-200. Granted I'm on full frame, but I think 85 is best for head shots, if I need to get tighter I use the 70-200. I pretty much try to incorporate both into my shoots.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
35mm on full frame gets more use from me. It's wide enough to capture a full scene and take some nice wide portraits that pulls in lots of elements from the environment.
If I want to do a more "portraity" portrait, I'll get 100mm+
35mm for me. never liked 50. the primes I travel with are 20ish, 35ish and 100ish
Astral/H3X
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On my A7II, my three favorite lenses are my 50mm 1.4, my 14mm 2.8, and my 100mm 2.8.
I use my 50mm as a "default" lens, particularly when doing military events, since it's just a pretty regular lens, and I've found that if I want a different look, usually I take it to the extreme and go either super wide, or all the way to 100mm. I also have an 85mm and a 35mm (by way of the 30mm Sigma being cropped a bit), but I find I don't like those quite as much as the other two.
I do know that if I'm going out to just shoot for artsy photos, I pretty much only use my 100mm and my 14mm, unless for some reason I can't. That's the only time the 50mm gets used when I'm at, say, a park.
Sickboy007
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Personally, I like the versatility of 50mm. Doing street shooting and street portraits with the same lens is very convenient.
Just upgraded to a decent kit, can't wait until my g85 + PanaLeica 25 arrives.
Just upgraded to a decent kit, can't wait until my g85 + PanaLeica 25 arrives.
sorijealut
Member
Enjoying reading everyone's preferences.. I might even sell the 23mm 1.4 and focus on really learning the 35mm (50mm equiv.). Then I'll get a wide angle/ short telephoto 
I much prefer 35mm.
I can still shoot with 50mm. It's great with people, but 35mm is just more versatile for me so I end up using that most of the time. I find 35mm and 85mm are a good combination of useful primes, not needing anything inbetween.
JadedWriter
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I heard the 56 1.2 is really good.Enjoying reading everyone's preferences.. I might even sell the 23mm 1.4 and focus on really learning the 35mm (50mm equiv.). Then I'll get a wide angle/ short telephoto
sorijealut
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Oh yeah, I've been eyeing it!
Also there's a 50mm F2 coming, which might be a good choice too. I just can't justify yet because my grasp of photography is still very mediocre, haha.
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finalflame
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Got the first of my XF replacement kit in. Already had the X-Pro2, 16mm 1.4, 35mm f/2, and 23mm 1.4. So the 50-140mm with 2x converter showed up. Solidly built and wonderful optics to it as well. Very similar to the 70-200mm 2.8 II from Canon I had before this new gear pick-up. Happy for that as the biggest gut punch to changing my gear up was getting rid of that Canon glass. The XT-2 and 16-55mm 2.8 arrives tomorrow so that should set me up nicely for now. Happy to be into one kit too as having Canon and Fuji was a bit of a pain.
TerryLee81
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The X-T20 looks like great value.
I'm glad they decided to leave 4k video in.
I'm glad they decided to leave 4k video in.
opticalmace
Member
For real. I'm seriously considering buying one.
edit: pre-ordered one from Amazon (I'm in Canada). :O
Krauser Kat
Member
This is like an A6300 but with native fuji lens support... that is so tempting.
sorijealut
Member
Must not buy must not buy...
Seems like an upgrade from my X-T1 in every aspect minus WR, a slightly slimmer grip
It even has a tilting touch screen!
Seems like an upgrade from my X-T1 in every aspect minus WR, a slightly slimmer grip
It even has a tilting touch screen!
JadedWriter
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Pulled the trigger on a refurb D810. Finally get to have a not beat to crap FX camera. D600 is now my event spare body.
NickatNite
Member
debating on upgrading my X100s to the F, or going the XPro 1 or 2 route.
what are your reasons and what are you looking for in a camera?
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
X-T20 is a GREAT jumping-in point for beginners/hobbyists wanting to try Fuji.
But I don't really see it as a good replacement for the XT-2 - and I certainly wouldn't be mad if I owned an XT-2 the last few months.
No UHS-II slot and likely a small buffer is a massive hit in usability for my shooting style. Only one slot.
The XT-2 has one of the best EVF viewfinders on the market - this doesn't. No tilting screen, either.
No battery grip - which means 4K footage/capture is going to be very limited.
And most importantly - no weather sealing. Which is big for me and travel.
For some people those things probably don't matter - but I do see them as pretty substantial differences. Ultimately, though - the picture quality of the X-T20 is going to be insane for the price.
But I don't really see it as a good replacement for the XT-2 - and I certainly wouldn't be mad if I owned an XT-2 the last few months.
No UHS-II slot and likely a small buffer is a massive hit in usability for my shooting style. Only one slot.
The XT-2 has one of the best EVF viewfinders on the market - this doesn't. No tilting screen, either.
No battery grip - which means 4K footage/capture is going to be very limited.
And most importantly - no weather sealing. Which is big for me and travel.
For some people those things probably don't matter - but I do see them as pretty substantial differences. Ultimately, though - the picture quality of the X-T20 is going to be insane for the price.
JadedWriter
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People never appreciate good build quality, until they get used to holding a very well built camera. I always push people toward weather sealed cameras personally.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
You see similar comments in almost every hobby.
"Why buy a Mercedes when the Malibu has leather and heated seats and a nice infotainment center?"
"Why buy a Mac or a Surface when Asus has the same specs for half the cost?"
"I would never buy shoes for more than $100."
It's when you start to handle the nicer things that you realize you're missing out on quite a bit with the cheaper option. That said, again, I really like what Fuji has done with the X-T20 - it looks like a phenomenal option for a lot of people. I just don't like that a lot of the early impressions are saying something along the lines of "I bet X-T2 purchasers are upset since this is so close for so much less money."
JadedWriter
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I tested out an XT10 for a bit like a week ago and didn't exactly like the grip on it, if you put a substantial lens on there it would feel quite imbalanced and it's something I'm really starting to pay attention to with cameras. My main criteria these day are "can I shoot an event with this" and "are my hands going to cramp up after holding this thing all day" it's not scientific, but I feel those are two pretty important things. I also will not buy a camera that doesn't have an iso button. Shit's not fucking happening. I hate menu diving for basic stuff like this.
Katzenjammer
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Is there a formal/standard definition of "weather resistance"? As in, has the camera been tested in certain conditions without being permanently damaged, versus a non-WR camera that couldn't handle the same situation? I hear the term being used quite a bit but I don't know exactly what it means.
NickatNite
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First I want to switch to 50mm lens, whereby the x100 series is 23, but 35 equivalent. There is the Telephoto conversion lens and I've read good things about it.
What I'm looking for in a camera is being lightweight, small, having access to the shutter/aperture on the body rather than menus. I first got into photography November('15) got the Nikon D3300, then the following spring took a photography class which was film based, and during that semester I sold my d3300 for the x100s. What I like about the x100s is that I do majority of my shooting with the OVF/EVF.
Also might just go the film route, I still have the Nikon 2020 I used during that class and looking into an rangefinder 35mm or slr.
Nope
Roger Cicala usually calls it "Warranty does not cover water damage"
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/11/the-devils-photography-dictionary/
Grats! you're going to love it.
I am waiting for D850/900 to see what they do. I really need some 4k video back in my life.
X-T2 and GH5 seem pretty great too.
I am going on a vacation soon and wanted to get some additional stuff for my camera. I have a cheap EOS Rebel T5i with the stock 18-55 mm lens and a lens hood, nothing else.I also use this to shoot video, I have been pretty pleased with the results so far considering the price.
The budget is around $1000 for upgrades and wasn't sure what would be best. For the type of stuff I am going to be shooting, it is pretty much everything. Portraits, cityscapes, landscapes, buildings. I am probably going to also be shooting a bunch of shots with people standing in front of things (typical family vacation stuff). I am most concerned with low light shots, we are doing a ton of stuff at night.
How should I use my budget? Get a different camera? Lenses? Would it be worth getting a microphone for when I shoot video? Is a prime lens worth it?
In the mean time I have been going around practicing with different lighting conditions and have a few books I am going through to help out.
The budget is around $1000 for upgrades and wasn't sure what would be best. For the type of stuff I am going to be shooting, it is pretty much everything. Portraits, cityscapes, landscapes, buildings. I am probably going to also be shooting a bunch of shots with people standing in front of things (typical family vacation stuff). I am most concerned with low light shots, we are doing a ton of stuff at night.
How should I use my budget? Get a different camera? Lenses? Would it be worth getting a microphone for when I shoot video? Is a prime lens worth it?
In the mean time I have been going around practicing with different lighting conditions and have a few books I am going through to help out.
JadedWriter
Member
I already have a shoot lined up for it too. Can't wait to use it though yeah using that thing tomorrow after work when the battery's done charging...shit...it takes D600 batteries anyway so that things getting broken in after work. Just have to get a CF card for it and the vertical grip. Getting a used one from B&H after work. I really don't care for video so the features don't dictate my camera purchases.
Lasthope106
Member
Been eyeing a 12mm lens for my A6000 for months now.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JD4TAWI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
The price does seem a little too high for my taste though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JD4TAWI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
The price does seem a little too high for my taste though.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I don't really use my D800 for events unless I have to, or have a specific shot that needs the megapixels. Those huge ass RAW files add up. The D810's a sweet ass camera though. So damn good, it's like they don't even need to upgrade it anymore.
I'd get the x Pro 1/2 depending on budget and get a 35mm for it then.
Vivalaraza
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Hello, I am looking to buy a camera at some point in the next few months.
1. What is your budget budget?
£500.
2. Main purpose of the camera?
I see myself using it mostly outdoor, probably mostly shots of nature, landscapes etc...not sure if that makes a difference to what type of camera I would need. But basically, I'm not using this to photograph events or people.
3. What form factor is most appealing to you?
Couldn't say I know enough about what form factors are out there...but as I travel a fair bit something that isn't too large or cumbersome.
4. Will you be investing in the camera? (buying more stuff for it later)
Most likely yes...but I don't see myself investing hundreds of £ more.
1. What is your budget budget?
£500.
2. Main purpose of the camera?
I see myself using it mostly outdoor, probably mostly shots of nature, landscapes etc...not sure if that makes a difference to what type of camera I would need. But basically, I'm not using this to photograph events or people.
3. What form factor is most appealing to you?
Couldn't say I know enough about what form factors are out there...but as I travel a fair bit something that isn't too large or cumbersome.
4. Will you be investing in the camera? (buying more stuff for it later)
Most likely yes...but I don't see myself investing hundreds of £ more.
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