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NeoGAF Games of the Year 2016 Awards
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RespectThySole
Member
No it isn't. It's about as far from a usual suspect as you can possibly get. GOTY awards always go to the big western story-driven game, they never go to a multiplayer-only game.
Looking at the data again this still doesn't make any sense to me:
Am I missing something here? Why is Forza Horizon 3 not the top XB1 exclusive and why are the pint calculations for MS as a publisher so low that they are less than the total points awarded to FH3? Do FH3 and Gears 4 not count for XB1 for some reason? Why?
Am I missing something here? Why is Forza Horizon 3 not the top XB1 exclusive and why are the pint calculations for MS as a publisher so low that they are less than the total points awarded to FH3? Do FH3 and Gears 4 not count for XB1 for some reason? Why?
FantasticMrSnake
Member
Yeah, totally disappointed that it didn't get higher, it's so much better than uncharted.
Isn't Rocket League multiplatform? Why is it on xbox exclusives? or I missread ?
You've kind of been a little grumpy about TLG for a while now, don't you think? You really think it "probably" sold less than Bayonetta 2? Is that a position you've thought about?
It's on PC.
Replace Battlefield with Call of Duty or whatever shooter in your post and the result would be the same. Shooter are simply more famous.
And you know sales doesn't automatically mean = quality
immortald3ath
Member
You can say that about any playstation exclusive here on Gaf.
Forza and Gears are on PC.
Bloodborne and Bayonetta 2 are not western games nor are they more mainstream than Overwatch.
For those who voted for the first time, make sure you download the full data from the top of the OP and look at the affinities. It's always interesting to see the other users who voted similar to you 
You can also look at their lists and maybe try out those few games that they have on their list which weren't on yours.
Here's mine for example
You can also look at their lists and maybe try out those few games that they have on their list which weren't on yours.
Here's mine for example
When are we having the secret cabal meeting where we decide how to split the votes?Nintendo votes will be split between Zelda and Mario
Bits N Pieces
Member
This post pretty much nails it. Its fun seeing people getting worked up over attacking or defending certain game though, lol.
But only on the MS run store and MS is still the publisher. So I don't see why it wouldn't factor into the publisher related points tally at the very least. That just seems like a misleading representation of the actual data
Pellegri Testament
Member
So is Stranger of Sword City (also on Vita) and Walking Dead. The only game on that list which is actually "exclusive" is Raiden V.
Melchiah
Member
Not to mention, that its DLC was somewhat disappointing, unlike Bloodborne's.
I think they had some errors in especific charts (platforms and genres based), at least Cheese and timetokill posted they were fixing some stuff
Every wrong instance should be pointed out. This is a work in progress with so many hundreds of games.
Also some games got a later release so they appear exclusive, despite only being a late port.
That's not coming out in 2017. It's one of those bullshit way too early reveals.
Last of Us is gonna win again lol.
Trigonometrize.
Member
Good work this year fellas
We already know Persona 5 is ridiculously good from the import impressions, so I doubt ME, which is probably going to be divisive (my guess here) can beat it.
I forgot about Mario being this year, I think Zelda will still take it if good, but a great 3D Mario game could give it a good run.Nintendo votes will be split between Zelda and Mario
I mean that's what I assumed had occurred but apparently according to Nirolak they aren't counted because they're available on PC as well which seems incredibly reductive since they are only available via the MS ecosystem (read store) on both platforms. That distinction doesn't make a lot of sense to me in this context especially considering the very very low PC numbers these MS Store games have in general.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Yeah, there's no way Bayonetta 2 outsold TLG, lol.
People whining about console bias or fanboyism are hilarious though. Bayo 2 won GOTY in 2014, but somehow it's a "Sony bias" community/site?
Can't be that Bloodborne, Uncharted 4 and The Last Guardian are games people really really loved, and were very hyped about, and that a game in a yearly-iteration genre with a dime a dozen others in its genre like BF1 doesn't garner the same kind of passion and enthusiasm on an... enthusiasts site? Nah, must be "Sony bias".
Get real, people. The most I can say is that maybe some people are more subconsciously inclined to favour exclusives (doesn't have to be Sony, as Bayo2 proved, and I'm pretty sure Zelda has the 2017 award on lock unless it's a massive disappointment), but that's about it.
Candy Crush is one of the biggest sellers ever. So? This is irrelevant to a gaming enthusiasts community, because it's not the kind of game they are passionate about. Not saying BF1 is like Candy Crush, but even for the people who do play it they probably aren't passionate about it the way people were about The Last Guardian, a game with a component of emotional resonance too, that they were waiting for a decade to play. It's really not surprising to see TLG beat BF1 and Sony has nothing to do with it.
(Full disclosure: I voted for Uncharted, but it was low in my list (so I gave it only 1 point), and I didn't vote for TLG.
)He's talking about a gen 7 poll, not 2017 poll.
The top of the chart isn't really that interesting though. It seems to align pretty closely with critical consensus and sales performance. I mean it's not like The Order is #1. There's some slant in the games enthusiast "core" community as a whole towards single player big budget games for sure but that's not a Gaf thing. It'd be weirder if it didn't align that way.
Unless I'm miscounting, all but 2 years since 2006 have been either Sony or Nintendo exclusive titles. That's pretty reproducible. The only real outlier is Super Mario Galaxy 2 in 2010, which is by every reasonable metric a GOTY-worthy game, but couldn't quite beat out Mass Effect 2 or Red Dead.
Like, this isn't an argument that the games that win these things are bad. Virtually all of them are really, really good. It's an argument that a forum that tends to place a high value on platform exclusivity in all discussions will in fact continue to value platform exclusivity come awards time.
Gen 7 GOTG vote, not 2017 GOTY vote.
Ultimadrago
Member
I've avoided reading general import impressions for Persona, but I'll admit that I'm not fond of them traditionally. I find they usually confirm multiple levels of pre-conceived interest or bias that potentially paint titles much better than they actually are (Bravely Default comes to mind). That said, I'd like Persona 5 to be very good and have more faith in it delivering than say, Final Fantasy XV did on a complete package front.
Melchiah
Member
Generalizing personal tastes never works well. Personally, I enjoyed Uncharted 4, unlike Doom (based on its demo), and wasn't interested in Overwatch (or any PVP game for that matter) at all. Yet my number one was Dark souls 3, a multiplatform title.
RespectThySole
Member
I was talking about the critics awards not GAF. When is the last time a game driven by the multiplayer even came remotely close to winning GOTY? You'd have to go back a decade to Call of Duty 4 and even then it had a strong single player campaign as well. Obviously not denying that Overwatch is mainstream, but calling it a usual suspect is flat out nonsense. A story driven western game like Uncharted 4 is the usual suspect. I have no clue how anyone could think otherwise.
Oh damn.
We can't have such a poll. I don't know what to give #1 to.
I am not very familiar with import impressions because there aren't many I follow, so thanks for the insight.
Nintendo votes will be split between Zelda and Mario
Just like how Sony votes were split between Uncharted 4 / The Last Guardian, clearly neither of those will be able to make it to the top.
InfiniteCombo
Banned
Very well put, and I wholeheartedly agree.
Greatest Ever
Member
Mis hombres
JuanLatino
Member
Uncharted 4 GOTY Awards in 2016
141
The Critics' Picks - 85
The Readers' Picks - 56
its not like Neogaf stands out or wait....
the whole world is Sony Bias i guess -
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
I am setsuna was better than chrono trigger never forget
Ohh man no way.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
The usual place
Am I required to comply? I have a feeling I won't be able to place Zelda high up with how it is shaping up
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Effigenius
Member
So did forza and super hot.
Edit: I see you changed the lists. Lol. That xb1 list is pathetic.