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[HAYA8U5A]

My most reoccuring nightmares are me being in a plane crash and it is crazy how spot on to that video they can be without having ever been in a plane crash to actually have that knowledge.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

I suppose. I had an infant son pass so I'm not scared of death. Life goes on till it doesnt.

Being scared of death is different from having a self preservation instinct, though. You're right, when it's up, it's up. Your options are deal with it or deal with it without grace. But I'm going to educate myself in what ways I can for ways to prolong my life, not out of fear of death, but a want to continue living.

 

[wipeout364]

Perfectly fair take to have.

I don't shy away from stuff like this because I think death is an important aspect of life and One that's basically swept under the rug and hidden in developed countries. It's like an entire facet of the human experience that contemporary culture says we need no exposure or preparation for.

What cultures are you referring to that are so accepting of death?

 

[Nobody_Important]

Was this confirmed as real? In the other videos the plane turns completely on its side before it crashed and the video doesn't seem to show that?

 

[TheInfamousKira]

What cultures are you referring to that are so accepting of death?

Accepting? No, only example I can think of I'm staying away from because it's wildly off topic and would probably veer into politics. But I was referring to countries and cultures where people are EXPOSED to it in a more routine manner than in the West. In America, someone's loved one passes away, you call emergency services, they take the person away, you decide how to deal with the remains, you have a nice service, that's it. It's not that way everywhere.

Countries that see war, or occupation. Countries who endorse mob justice. People live in bad places. Gang violence. Cartel violence. Terrorist attacks. I mean, it's all over the world, obviously. But different cultures definitely deal with and perceive it differently. And I'm not condemning nor condoning anything with that statement.

 

[Chittagong]

That crash is pretty unbelievable.

ATR-72 is a really robust, reliable aircraft that can land and take off in challenging conditions on very short runways. We have tons of them here in French Polynesia and it blows my mind see them operate in storms.

The aircraft that crashed was just 15 years old, the conditions were clear, and by the looks of it, the area was populated which would indicate a decent runway. The video doesn’t look like a suicide dive either - so I would lean towards a catastrophic technical or human failure

 

[Represent.]

Rest in Peace to the victims. Insane how fast it goes from joy to hell in under 10 seconds.

 

[newtypepilot]

according to juan it looks the left wing stalled due to too slow of an approach speed.

 

[Tams]

That crash is pretty unbelievable.

ATR-72 is a really robust, reliable aircraft that can land and take off in challenging conditions on very short runways. We have tons of them here in French Polynesia and it blows my mind see them operate in storms.

The aircraft that crashed was just 15 years old, the conditions were clear, and by the looks of it, the area was populated which would indicate a decent runway. The video doesn’t look like a suicide dive either - so I would lean towards a catastrophic technical or human failure

It doesn't actually have the cleanest record. Older models also had problems with being underpowered.

The main issue though, is it is very popular with airlines in poorer countries that can't afford much else. And quite a lot of those airlines don't have the best safety records.

Tara Air, like all Nepalese airlines is pretty lax. The whole industry is neck deep in corruption there. It wasn't that long ago that seeing overweight planes takeoff wasn't uncommon.

 

[RoadHazard]

I legit find it hard to believe that not only could the phone have survived that but it kept on recording with a working camera and streaming with a working antenna to the nearest cell tower.

It was a Nokia.

 

[The Cockatrice]

I think Ill travel with trains forever.

 

[Aggelos]

Was this confirmed as real? In the other videos the plane turns completely on its side before it crashed and the video doesn't seem to show that?

Hindustan Times reposted it, so they think that it's legitimate.

 

[Represent.]

Just imagine the dozens of horrifying videos that would have been making the rounds if today's cell phone tech had been available on 9/11.

 

[Nobody_Important]

Hindustan Times reposted it, so they think that it's legitimate.

Fucking hell. So the plane went on its side and crashed within seconds? Thank fucking god I don't usually have to fly for work. I don't know if I could fly again without having a small internal panic attack every time now after that video.



"Normal flight" to literal hell on earth in seconds.

 

[SJRB]

Yeah that's pretty harsh.

 

[Von Hugh]

The first couple seconds where you just have to accept you are going to die because you are in a plane and there's nothing you can do about it. That's horrifying.

 

[Tams]

Fucking hell. So the plane went on its side and crashed within seconds? Thank fucking god I don't usually have to fly for work. I don't know if I could fly again without having a small internal panic attack every time now after that video.



"Normal flight" to literal hell on earth in seconds.

I mean, you don't live in one of the world's poorest countries, rife with corruption, and one if the worst air safety records, plus not exactly the best terrain to fly in.

 

[Tams]

I know it's cool and trendy to be sceptical, but come on.

Was this confirmed as real? In the other videos the plane turns completely on its side before it crashed and the video doesn't seem to show that?

Nepal plane crash: last moments inside cabin caught on passenger’s Facebook live video

Harrowing footage shows passengers had no idea plane was in danger before crash

www.theguardian.com

In the moments before Nepal’s deadliest air crash in decades on Sunday, four friends from India who were onboard began excitedly recording the descent on a Facebook live video.

 

[Hugare]

Was this confirmed as real? In the other videos the plane turns completely on its side before it crashed and the video doesn't seem to show that?

It turns on its side on the video right before the flames start

It happens really fast. They dont even scream.

Planes are abolutely terrifying, man.

I took a 14h flight to NY 2 months back, and the thought of being inside a thin can over the ocean for 14h was just horrible.

I know that considering the amount of flights taking off daily, its seems really safe, but eh

 

[Bragr]

It straddles the line between being absolutely evil and voyeuristic, but if death is a part of life, then it should be held in the same regard as videos of childbirth, in a all's fair and equal world.

I don't see the logic. I don't see why we should witness cruel and horrible videos because childbirth is a part of life.

People generally become more vile and extreme the more bad things they see. There is a reason why the worst people come from war zones.

There are hundreds of videos of terrorist and cartel attacks where people get gutted in high definition all over the internet, and it's one of the chief reasons why we have seen an increase in various forms of terror attacks. Almost all of the psychopaths are talking about how they use these videos to get used to violence. It's cultivating crazy fucks all over the world.

I can't get my mind around why these sorts of videos don't get scarped from the internet as other illegal activities do. Frankly, murder videos are the worst and most damaging videos you can put online, but it's everywhere.

 

[bitbydeath]

The first couple seconds where you just have to accept you are going to die because you are in a plane and there's nothing you can do about it. That's horrifying.

I’d just think of this.

 

[MikeM]

I don't see the logic. I don't see why we should witness cruel and horrible videos because childbirth is a part of life.

People generally become more vile and extreme the more bad things they see. There is a reason why the worst people come from war zones.

There are hundreds of videos of terrorist and cartel attacks where people get gutted in high definition all over the internet, and it's one of the chief reasons why we have seen an increase in various forms of terror attacks. Almost all of the psychopaths are talking about how they use these videos to get used to violence. It's cultivating crazy fucks all over the world.

I can't get my mind around why these sorts of videos don't get scarped from the internet as other illegal activities do. Frankly, murder videos are the worst and most damaging videos you can put online, but it's everywhere.

These videos are reality. Its okay if you can’t handle it.

Do you have any studies backing up your claims? Do you also believe violence in video games creates violent people?

 

[Bragr]

These videos are reality. Its okay if you can’t handle it.

Do you have any studies backing up your claims? Do you also believe violence in video games creates violent people?

There is a huge difference between realism and video games. Do you think child porn is "just reality" too, and that you should "handle it"?

 

[MikeM]

There is a huge difference between realism and video games. Do you think child porn is "just reality" too, and that you should "handle it"?

Child porn? What does that have to do with a plane crash video?

 

[DGrayson]

Once my dad told me a story when he was at work they heard that a guy down the street had killed himself by shooting himself in teh face with a shotgun. Him and his buddies thought it would be cool/interesting to go check it out. He went there and just just told me quietly (years later) that he wished he never saw that.

I took that advice to heart and try not to watch real life gore or truly terrifying stuff. Some people can stomach that. Some people have to do that by their job or in a war. A friend of mine worked on an ambulance and saw stuff like that. Its just not for me though.

 

[Bragr]

Child porn? What does that have to do with a plane crash video?

I'm not specifically talking about the plane video, but murder videos, like the cartel videos. It should be targeted and scraped from the internet like child porn, it facilitates behavior.

 

[MikeM]

I'm not specifically talking about the plane video, but murder videos, like the cartel videos. It should be targeted and scraped from the internet like child porn, it facilitates behavior.

Oh sure. I haven’t watched those and don’t care to. But I am also not sure that those can create tendencies to want to commit such acts. I’m not a psychologist though and I’m guessing you aren’t either.

 

[Bragr]

Oh sure. I haven’t watched those and don’t care to. But I am also not sure that those can create tendencies to want to commit such acts. I’m not a psychologist though and I’m guessing you aren’t either.

People who are violent have almost always either experienced violent things or followed others that do. So it's common practice that people should stay away from any form of violent trauma, and some of these videos can cause trauma. It's common that terrorists are fans of others who have done such acts and religiously watch gruesome videos online.

These are not videos that you brush off, and some become fascinated by them.

Groups like the cartels or isis have gotten considerably more violent and brazen by the culture of posting online videos, and the cartels are directly inspired by terror videos.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Once my dad told me a story when he was at work they heard that a guy down the street had killed himself by shooting himself in teh face with a shotgun. Him and his buddies thought it would be cool/interesting to go check it out. He went there and just just told me quietly (years later) that he wished he never saw that.

I took that advice to heart and try not to watch real life gore or truly terrifying stuff. Some people can stomach that. Some people have to do that by their job or in a war. A friend of mine worked on an ambulance and saw stuff like that. Its just not for me though.

You've the right way of thinking and you'd be no better off for watching it trust me.

Sadly I think i'm numb to it, i've seen so much death/dying and illness I just hope that my own is quick, truth be told.

Some of the stuff i've seen in hospitals/care homes just rams it home that life can get truly shit and we should all be thankful for what we've got whilst we've got it.

But aye, horrible video.

 

[Gp1]

Not an expert but that looked like a stall so your flight surfaces have no control and you're at the mercy of gravity and physics at that point. Terrible stuff

I was thinking something like this too. Low speed plus loss of a engine or something to cause that roll.

 

[Romulus]

Unless you're a psychopath etc, watching videos like this is bad for you. You "move on" but not really. You can carry a small piece of that with you forever, especially if it's as traumatic as people are saying.

 

[SlimySnake]

Not watching that seeing as how 68 of the 72 people died on board.

Nepal has some of the worst air safety records on the planet. They have a crash once every few months.

Nearly 350 people have died since 2000 in plane or helicopter crashes in Nepal - home to eight of the world's 14 highest mountains, including Everest - where sudden weather changes can make for hazardous conditions.

The European Union has banned Nepali airlines from its airspace since 2013, citing safety concerns.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

Unless you're a psychopath etc, watching videos like this is bad for you. You "move on" but not really. You can carry a small piece of that with you forever, especially if it's as traumatic as people are saying.

I feel like being a psychopath watching videos like this would be worse than a well adjusted person doing it, haha

 

[Spukc]

I just watched the video.
It was the most fucked up thing i have ever seen

 

[Scotty W]

Completely unsurprising.

I've flown in Nepal a lot. Honestly, I preferred it when they used the Mi-17s for passenger transport. Loud and shakey as fuck, but they tended to be much more reliable. And in the mountains, it really doesn't matter if a plane can glide, as there's nowhere to emergency land.

And the corruption in Nepal is astounding. Absolutely no surprise that there's no decent weather radar and aviation forecasting service there.

Planning to go hiking there in a few months. The tigers were already giving me second thoughts, but now this?

 

[UnNamed]

Once my dad told me a story when he was at work they heard that a guy down the street had killed himself by shooting himself in teh face with a shotgun. Him and his buddies thought it would be cool/interesting to go check it out. He went there and just just told me quietly (years later) that he wished he never saw that.

I took that advice to heart and try not to watch real life gore or truly terrifying stuff. Some people can stomach that. Some people have to do that by their job or in a war. A friend of mine worked on an ambulance and saw stuff like that. Its just not for me though.

When I went to university, I was 20 or so, we usually used the computer from the lab to surf on the internet because back in the day it was way more faster than our 56k at home , and there was this girl from my age, a good and nice girl, that used to see images on rotten.com like if she was swapping videos on tiktok. This was the first time I heard about rotten.com and those sites.

 

[Fbh]

Pretty terrifying though to be honest if I was to die in a plane crash I guess this is the way I'd like it to happen, quickly and unexpectedly.

 

[daffyduck]

I feel like being a psychopath watching videos like this would be worse than a well adjusted person doing it, haha

This.

A pity for the investigators that need to.

 

[Romulus]

I feel like being a psychopath watching videos like this would be worse than a well adjusted person doing it, haha

Yeah, probably bad for everyone.

 

[fran.fernandez]

Not watching.
Have 10 hour and 14 hour fly next week.

 

[LordOfChaos]

I'm not going to watch that. My stomach isn't that sensitive usually, but I remember one Russian incident I think where the pilot let their kid fly the plane (right?) and it went in crazy directions before crashing into the floor, it wasn't even video but just vector directions of the plane, just thinking about what the passengers would have experienced before they were all killed made me queasy. Seeing their faces...Yikes, nope.

Terrible tragedy.

 

[Smokken]

I think they're referring to the video of the 2 hitchikers in iirc Pakistan. They're sleeping in a tent, 2 men walk in and start sawing them at the neck. The girls are screaming for their mother the whole time, choking on their blood

Morocco. One of the girls studied close to my hometown. Some sick fucks sent the video to their mother after the incident, that's messed up.

 

[GymWolf]

When I went to university, I was 20 or so, we usually used the computer from the lab to surf on the internet because back in the day it was way more faster than our 56k at home , and there was this girl from my age, a good and nice girl, that used to see images on rotten.com like if she was swapping videos on tiktok. This was the first time I heard about rotten.com and those sites.

Rotten bring back some school memories dude...

Seeing decomposing cadavers without getting catched by the prof was really something...

 

[Mr Hyde]

I flew to Kathmandu once in 2018 and can confirm their landing strip is (or at least was back then) in extremely poor condition. Several huge holes in the asphalt, making the landing quite bumpy and risky, basically no safety rules and overall poor working conditions. The mountain terrain does not make it any safer. I'm just glad I came out of there alive. It's a beautiful country and the Nepalis are probably the nicest people I've ever met, very wholesome and friendly, but I'm not going there again. It's too dangerous.

 

[Champomade]

I fly often, I am quite anxious abt plane crashes every time I fly, I never watch any real gory video. Just watched this one out of curiosity and honestly I think it doesnt seem like such a bad way to die. It seems it went very quickly, not like it took minutes for it to happen. This actually makes me slightly less nervous about flying.

 

[Banjo64]

You’re there and then you’re gone. Pretty crazy.

 

[Uhtred]

Work keeps pushing me to fly for work again, and I’m just terrified of it. I can’t say no for ever, it’s part of my job.

 

[//DEVIL//]

Wish I hadn't read that, jeez.

seriously. disturbing to even read. I am out of this thread I honestly can't take this.

 

[12Goblins]

FAA investigates after two planes nearly collide on JFK runway

One was headed to the Dominican Republic, while the other to the UK. Both were full with passengers.

www.bbc.com

O_O

 

[TheInfamousKira]

It is important to note as a public disclaimer, the old party line. It's statistically safer to fly than it is to drive, and just the sheer potential shitstorm from screwing up, and the exorbitant cost of the vehicle and the fuel to power it means that several people most probably more skilled than you and I are making sure their gigantic money plane full of potential wrongful death lawsuits is up to snuff.

Conversely, though it doesn't happen as often as automobile accidents, when you're 30,000 feet in the air, if something fucks up, then your options basically boil down to what position do I want them to find my charred remnants.

I've flown about 14 times in my life. Not that scary, but turbulence and air pockets can suck my entire dick.