For starters, they need to establish a character that is as great as, since it's the buildup and arc of that character that was at the core of that case.Nagito Komaeda
You misspelled
Chiaki Nanami
For starters, they need to establish a character that is as great as, since it's the buildup and arc of that character that was at the core of that case.Nagito Komaeda
You misspelled.Chiaki Nanami
That character has literally no character arc throughout the entirety of Danganronpa 2 and they are almost irrelevant when it comes to the reason why case 5 is as good as it is and why people praise it so much.
You misspelled.Chiaki Nanami
Chiaki owns, Nagito ruins everything
Also seriously? What's Nagito's character arc? He doesn't change or learn anything, he's just disenfranchised from the group after Chapter 1 and stays there, then he learns that everyone is Ult. Despair and decides to kill everyone except the traitor using the same ideology he always had.
I don't mean this in a confrontational way or anything, but I seriously don't understand why people like that character so much. Like to me, that's just a very, very bland character that doesn't do anything plot relevant.
(Spoilers for DR-2 up to case 5)
I like Nagito because he made the most memorable murder mystery in a series and really stretched the mystery in a way that's only possible with a character like him in a series like this. It felt like an unique plot you wouldn't see in say, Phoenix Wright because it needed a particular brand of insanity and world building for it to work. It felt very unique to this series and very fun to experience. He's a time-bomb that you know is gonna go off at some point, and when it finally does the game doesn't disappoint you.
Meanwhile, Chiaki does...nothing in particular that I remember. Like she's not even bad or anything, she's just...there. I keep hearing praise for that character and I just don't get it. Again don't mean this in a confrontational way, I just really don't get why people like her.
You realize starting off perfect is generally not a very good thing for a character, right?When you start perfect you can't really get anywhere
CH5 was mostly a masterpiece thanks to Komaeda for me, the cast playing right into his hands and seeing Nagito's magnum opus come to its conclusion was what made that part so wonderful
I don't know, she's slothful, socially withdrawn and usually not very aware, andI honestly found Chiaki really forced down our throats she is such a puritan and has no flaws, how boring. Easily my least favourite character in 2. I prefer characters with actual flaws.
Really?. They are one of the main reasons Trial 5 has as much impact on people as it does, that's not to say if it had happened to another character I wouldn't be sad, but with them and the way it went down... Ignoring the emotional aspects of Case 5 in favor of the technical ones is a major oversight.Chiaki Nanami literally starts out not talking to literally anyone at the start of the game and grows comfortable and confident with everyone to literally slap fucking Akane when she's about to kill Nagito. You spend the entire the game working closer and closer as each Chapter passes to the point where you pretty much are right by her side the entirety of Investigation 5
Also seriously? What's Nagito's character arc? He doesn't change or learn anything, he's just disenfranchised from the group after Chapter 1 and stays there, then he learns that everyone is Ult. Despair and decides to kill everyone except the traitor using the same ideology he always had.
Do people really just like get off on seeingFor me the highlight of the trial isNagito forcing everyone to kill their friend or die?after everyone has seen through Nagito's plan and just refuses to kill Chiaki to save themselves.
You realize starting off perfect is generally not a very good thing for a character, right?
Do people really just like get off on seeingFor me the highlight of the trial isNagito forcing everyone to kill their friend or die?after everyone has seen through Nagito's plan and just refuses to kill Chiaki to save themselves.
You realize starting off perfect is generally not a very good thing for a character, right?
Do people really just like get off on seeingNagito forcing everyone to kill their friend or die?
And Nagito definitely has a character arc.He starts off being warm to everyone, then reveals his twisted nature when circumstances become dire and he realizes this is an opportunity for him to exercise his belief that despair begets hope. He reveres everyone around him and loves them because they are Ultimates, and he believes they are the ultimate expression of the hope he desires. The game then places the player under his control, to give us a view into his mind and his thought process. After discovering the secret, he takes a dramatic turn where he begins to look down upon everyone around him instead of praising them, because he discovers they are the kind of people who he truly hates. He especially hates Hajime, and actually becomes actively insulting and hateful.
Yeah, this right here tells me we like DanganRonpa for very different reasons, and that were not gonna reach a conclusion here. I apologize for even starting this conversation. I honestly don't know how to react to this.That was the opposite of a highlight for me.Everything about Chiaki actively made case 5 worse for me, and I especially detested the emotional crap with Chiaki's "sacrifice."
I love Chiaki, but let's be real here. She's popular because she's cute, nice, and a gamer.
Her role in 2 is basically the same as Kyoko's in 1. The cool smart girl the game really wants you to like and trust.Kyoko is superior.
Well yes that's what I meant in the spoiler.
At least Kyoko was an actually flawed character, giving her more depth as a result.
I love Chiaki, but let's be real here. She's popular because she's cute, nice, and a gamer.
Her role in 2 is basically the same as Kyoko's in 1. The cool smart girl the game really wants you to like and trust.Kyoko is superior.
V3 needs an inversion of that archetype, what Nagito was to Naegi.I love Chiaki, but let's be real here. She's popular because she's cute, nice, and a gamer.
Her role in 2 is basically the same as Kyoko's in 1. The cool smart girl the game really wants you to like and trust.Kyoko is superior.
Not quite
Kyoko is reclusive, sketchy and downright hypocritical at times, whereas Chiaki was helpful pretty much the entire way through. Kodaka makes a point to state that Kyoko was a regular character whereas Chiaki was explicitly the heroine of DR2.
Not quite
Kyoko is reclusive, sketchy and downright hypocritical at times, whereas Chiaki was helpful pretty much the entire way through. Kodaka makes a point to state that Kyoko was a regular character whereas Chiaki was explicitly the heroine of DR2.
Yeah, one thing I enjoyed about Kirigiri in DR1 was her being a hypocrite. Like at one point I remember her being disgusted about Togami fucking around with bodies...and then that same episode, she starts fucking around with bodies to investigate too. And the same episode I think Togami also acted disgusted at her playing with bodies despite doing the same fucking thing.
Makoto probably lived out a sitcom after DR1 traveling with those two haha. Like his by-default best friend and love interest are both passive aggressive hypocritical dicks and they have to work together.
I don't like the concept of heroine characters, so that's probably part the reason I'm not fond of Chiaki and was pretty okay with Kyoko.
So...did anyone else catch the hidden messages in DR2?
Yeah, I found this after I beat the game:
http://marchen-v-friedhof.tumblr.co...last-thoughts-of-the-sdr2-characters-who-died
I reloaded that chapter and got to that point just so I could read them in game. It was definitely a mind fuck.
As previously reported, this week's issue of Famitsu will have a 10-page feature on Danganronpa V3 and Danganronpa 3, with an interview with Kazutaka Kodaka and Tsuyoshi Kodakazu who are in charge of scenarios, and general producer Yoshinori Terasawa.
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201512/08094857.html
[*]DR3 was actually going to be a game with class trials, but the writers thought it would be too painful to have the Hope's Peak survivors go through killing each other again. The anime is the final chapter in the "Hope's Peak" saga.
DR3 was actually going to be a game with class trials, but the writers thought it would be too painful to have the Hope's Peak survivors go through killing each other again.
This seems neatInformation from the furage:
DR V3
- "Scrum Discussion" is like a team competition, where a group of people are divided into two sides to face each other. [Sounds to me kind of like the concept of a rebuttal showdown, except it's not 1v1]
- The team wants to introduce an alternate way to debate which focuses on using bullets to "lie." [Sounds like making bluffs ala Ace Attorney in order to progress an argument]
DR3
- DR3 was actually going to be a game with class trials, but the writers thought it would be too painful to have the Hope's Peak survivors go through killing each other again. The anime is the final chapter in the "Hope's Peak" saga.
Wait, pointing out a possible translation error or missing word before I get crucified for it: The furage might be talking about a "killing game," so it could be talking about DR3 having initially been planned to be a "killing game" anime.
If it was going to be a game, they wanted to include class trials, but the thought of putting the Hope's Peak sudents through another round of mutual killing was a bit toocruelstrained. So they decided to finish things as an anime.
I can't copy that exact passage (my phone doesn't like Hokanko for some reason), but I would translate it as:
It's weird reasoning when it comes to a series like DR. Almost sounds like an excuse they came up with if they were ever asked the question "Why is DR3 not a game?"Shying away from further despair? That's not the Danganronpa spirit!
Am I the only one happy that we get another Danganronpa anime? :/
Am I the only one happy that we get another Danganronpa anime? :/
Am I the only one happy that we get another Danganronpa anime? :/
You should play Danganronpa: Another Episode. That's the darkest Danganronpa game. I don't necessarily need to see the series continue in that direction after that.
No kidding. I'm on Chapter 4 of AE right now and there's some fucked up shit in this game.
While the game flow remains the same, the game production is being considerably improved.
The team wants to introduce an alternate way to debate which focuses on using bullets to "lie." They want to create an alternate route which has the player create forgeries through fake bullets.
There are elements of suspense like in the games, but it's not as much about the deductions and reasoning.
There are 16 characters who are part of the game this time, with the 3 in the key visual included. The developers are not saying whether the main character is one of those 3 characters.
That depends on how it is handled. If it is done well and much better than DR1, i'd be happy. I'm uncertain how well it can be.