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New Fitness Thread. I Have 2 Months to Get In Shape...

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Matt

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OK, so prom is on June 10th, and I want to get in a little better shape before then. I currently am 5'11" tall and 150 pounds, but flabby (I lost a lot of weight over the last 2 years), and have very little muscle. I know I can’t expect miracles, and I don’t, but I wanted to here people advice on what I can do to make the best use out of the time I have. The more specific the better, as I work best when I’m told exactly what and when to do things.

Thanks in advance.
 
You can't do much in 2 months. Especially if you're just starting out. I doubt anything you do will produce any visible changes. But I'm not exactly an expert. Maybe someone else has ideas.
 

Pochacco

asking dangerous questions
2 months is fine if you want to shed just a bit of flab (which sounds like your situation). Plus, even if the physical changes are minimal, your self-esteem will shoot up.
I'm no fitness expert...just eat right and exercise.

Cut back on the fatty foods and do lots of cardio: play sports, jog daily, lift some weights, bike, etc.

It's really not that hard.
 
Actually you can do a lot for your body in two months to make it at least look decent. Lift a lot but don't forget to get some running in. Sit ups and push ups every night can't hurt either.
 

Blackie

Member
Like people said before:

- Cut down your shitty food intake and eat more healthy food pyramid stuff. More wheat bread, chicken and good meats, and fruits and vegetables. Don't eat much after 7:30 pm.

- Do 1 hour of cardio every day. Do 20-30 minutes of medium weight lifting for your upper body daily. You can skip sunday, but make sure to vary the weights you use every day.

Follow these simple steps and up the intensity of your cardio and weights as you get in better shape and you'll look a lot studlier come prom time.
 

Takuan

Member
If you have access to a pool, swim like three times a week for half an hour to an hour. Full body workout, cardio. Two birds, one stone! Cut down on fat intake, cut pop out of your diet entirely (drink water), eat a lot of fish, chicken, and veggies/fruit. If you're disciplined enough you'll have positive results by the prom and you'll be eager to strip naked when the time comes for some logjammin'.

Edit: Waitasec, 5'11 150? Jesus. In that case, I don't think you can realistically expect to gain that much muscle in two months, but you can still get results in that time. Cut down on the cardio (but still do it), hit the weight room, do as heavy a weight you can manage for 6-8 reps. Work different body parts on different days. Depending on the intensity of your work outs you may want to rest for as long as a week to let your body recover. The diet should be as above, no junk food/pop, lots of low-fat high protein meats. It's recommended to take protein shakes, especially right after a work out, but I don't know how long you plan on keeping this up. At any rate, a balanced diet and excercise will go a long way, protein shakes and other such supplements will just get you better results faster. So, to sum up, the main things to take note of if you want to get in good shape:

1. eat well
2. train hard
3. rest well

= victory
 

Matt

Member
Blackie said:
make sure to vary the weights you use every day.
OK...what does this mean exactly?
logjammin'
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darlyn

Member
I just got myself a personal trainer of sorts so I too can look good in time for prom (law school prom.. yay!). i'm just adding some resistance training to my normal cardio workouts. 150 seems pretty thin for someone 5'11, so I'm guessing you need to weight train more than any kind of cardio exercises. But I guess the boys on here will have better suggestions on that than anything I could tell you.
 

Takuan

Member
Matt said:
<Blackie>make sure to vary the weights you use every day.

OK...what does this mean exactly?
I think he means to use different machines, ones that work different muscle groups, but I could be wrong. It's also a good idea to switch up exercises so as to keep your muscles guessing, as they will get used to routine and at that point results start to taper off.
 
Foremost, define what you want to accomplish. Lose 15 pounds of fat? Gain 10 pounds of lean muscle? Increase your lower-body strength by 20%? "Get in better shape" could mean any of these...or none.

My guess is you want to reduce your body fat and look more muscular. (Who wouldn't, right?)

Different people here at GAF are going to suggest different "get in shape" techniques. Some will work for you, others will not. Some will advise credible excercise routines and diets, others will not. Some will describe what they have done to successfully lose fat/gain muscle unbeknownst to them that doing so is/was detrimental to their physical (or mental) health.

With that said, I would put your faith into a group of accredited experts on the topic of gaining muscle / losing fat. They have laid out a 12-week program, but you'll look great at the end of week 10 (assuming you begin next Monday) if you adhere to it faithfully.

The program does require access to standard weightlifting equipment. They do highly recommend you bolster your muscle gains and fat losses by consuming certain workout supplements thoughout the program on a daily basis. Most importantly, you'll have to strictly follow the program and dedicate a good amount of time (and a lot of effort)!

With this program you'll have a very good chance of attaining the three goals I prodded you with at the beginning of my post. But if you're serious about looking good for your prom, here are specific instructions where results are guaranteed.
 

Atari2600

Too dumb for the internet
Damn, every now and then someone surprises me by providing a carefully thought out answer on these forums. FreakFink, you get this week's prize. :)
 

Do The Mario

Unconfirmed Member
School balls//Proms are some of the most over rated nights ever (like New Years and Australia day).

Oh yeah good luck in getting fit.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Depends on what you want to achieve. Disgustingly huge muscles isn't an option for 2 months. Then again, why would you...most girls tell me they think its nasty.

So you're goal should to get tone, and to do it in a healthy way. You're going to want to make this a lifestyle, not a quick fix if you want this to continue after prom.

To tone, I'd suggest doing the weight that leads to failure after 20 repetitions. Do like 3 sets every other day. After you reach failure with each set, rest for a minute and lower the weight slightly and repeat. Get plenty of sleep to heal.

Immediately after your workout, eat some high quality protein. Baked Chicken, steak, fish, premium whey protein, whatever.

Don't cut fats from your diet. Your body NEEDS fats. Cut back Omega 6 fats and synthetic fats, ie the fats in almost all american foods. Increase Omega 3 fats with DHA. You'll get these from high quality natural fish, nuts and stuff.

Fuck the food pyramid. Why trust a food pyramid from the fattest and most unhealthy nations in the developed world? Eat mostly high quality protein, organic fruits, organic vegetables, and some quality real whole grain foods. Drink only water, and lots of it. Working out will improve body definition, but eating healthy will improve your health. You'll feel better and you'll look better, and it's not a muscle thing.
 
Matt (and everyone), please be wary of much of what you read in this thread. Check (and double-check) for research that supports claims made here. Many techniques may prove to be ineffective or even detrimental to your fitness goals.

My intentions are not to personally criticize or defame the below individuals, however, the below training methodologies contradict the findings in studies found at the link I provided previously...

teh_pwn said:
To tone, I'd suggest doing the weight that leads to failure after 20 repetitions. Do like 3 sets every other day. After you reach failure with each set, rest for a minute and lower the weight slightly and repeat.
Muscle is not built in at the gym. Less reps at a higher weights can be more effective load on muscles. Plus, less reps = less time spent at the gym = easier time keeping concentration level high throughout workout.

Takuan said:
Waitasec, 5'11 150? Jesus. In that case, I don't think you can realistically expect to gain that much muscle in two months, but you can still get results in that time.
The most gains in the shortest amount of time are made when first starting out (caveat: getting acquainted with the excercises and routines to promote proper form can take a few workout cycles).

Blackie said:
Do 1 hour of cardio every day. Do 20-30 minutes of medium weight lifting for your upper body daily. You can skip sunday, but make sure to vary the weights you use every day.
Excessive cardio (>20 minutes/day) can impede muscle growth progress.
 

Ristamar

Member
FreakyFink said:
Excessive cardio (>20 minutes/day) can impede muscle growth progress.

Damn straight, especially for those of us with a high metabolism. I rarely do any cardio unless I'm trying to look extremely lean, but my muscle growth inevitably suffers.
 

ChryZ

Member
You can sure improve your fitness, but building muscle mass is almost impossible. 8 weeks is very little time. Usually the body will utilize "whats there" in the first 8 weeks, you will be able to raise your strength by about 70-150%, but you will not gain muscle mass. Whatever you do, don't over do it. Start humble and increase steadily.
 

Blackie

Member
Matt & Takuan: Yeah I meant switch up what machines/muscles you work out daily, so you leave your different muscle groups time to rest. Like do pecs and triceps one day, then biceps and back, then shoulders the next, etc. Also good advice FreakFink.

I just put it my own high cardio workout plan because he was a little vague on whether he wanted to just lose the flab and tighten up or gain a lot of muscle mass. I do a lot of cardio because I'm not looking to bulk up right now, just lose all the extra fat and get back into track & field shape.

I definately agree with you guys about doing a lot less cardio, like 20 minutes instead of my hour, if you're looking to maximize muscle growth. Also less reps more weight and all that jazz.
 

Boomer

Member
You're skinny dude. Eat at least 3500 calories a day. Eat a lot of protein..at least 150g a day. Buy some protein powder and make a shake every day. Here's mine:

3 cups milk
2 scoops protein powder
2 tablespoons peanut butter
1 banana

That's over 800 calories right there, and around 80g of protein. On top of that, just eat as much as you can, just make sure you get a lot of protein. Also, lift some weights 2-3 times a week until you can't lift anymore. Like others said, lift as much as you can for 6-8 reps. I gain about 3 pounds a week with this diet.
 
An average healthy adult man or woman needs about 0.8 grams of high-quality protein for every kilogram (2.2 pounds) of body weight, slightly more than 0.4 grams for every pound.

For example, a 138-pound woman needs about 50 grams of protein a day; a 175-pound man, about 63 grams.

http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/id-579.html

Getting 150g of protein every day is BAD for your health, and counter-productive. 0.6 g per pound is more then enough for an active training diet, if you don't want to look like Ahnold or die young from an heart ceasure.
 
Foreign Jackass said:
An average healthy adult man or woman needs about 0.8 grams of high-quality protein for every kilogram (2.2 pounds) of body weight, slightly more than 0.4 grams for every pound.

For example, a 138-pound woman needs about 50 grams of protein a day; a 175-pound man, about 63 grams.

http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/id-579.html

Getting 150g of protein every day is BAD for your health, and counter-productive. 0.6 g per pound is more then enough for an active training diet, if you don't want to look like Ahnold or die young from an heart ceasure.

Yeah, unless you're doing hardcore training, you're just gonna be peeing out all that excess protein anyways. Good bye money spent on overly expensive protein shakes/bars.
 

milanbaros

Member?
2 months is plenty for the sort of change you're after. I am always suprised by the difference I see after jogging daily for just a few weeks or lifting weights. Once you start to see changes it will be much easier to carry on. And the guy before is right. If you feel a lot better then you can't help but look better.
 

Jim Bowie

Member
element said:
5'10" and 150lbs? WTF? I'm 5'10" 190lbs :(

5'10" and 190lbs? WTF? I'm 5'10" and 210lbs :(

In the course of four months I toned up and lost 35 pounds, so you should be able to tone up and lose, like, 17.5 pounds. Just stop eating fatty stuff, only drink water, exercise daily, and sleep at least 7 hours a night and you're set.
 
- Lift weights. Don't do that toning shit. Lift weights and lift them heavy.
- Eat really clean. No cheat days either. Eat 10x bodyweight
- Don't overdo cardio or else you'll get skinny fat. Skinny fat sucks.

As for the person who said too much protein is bad, they're wrong. The whole protein is bad has been debunked constantly. They mean that for regular joes whose only exercise is picking up the remote. For muscle maintenance and growth, much more is needed. Amino acids are needed for muscle building and 63 grams sure as fuck isn't going to cut it, especially with absorption rate only being 25%. Maybe if you are consuming 100g of Amino Acids daily, you'll need it from protein.

As for protein being expensive, whey protein is the cheapest source of protein out there. Too bad all the really great tasting ones are expensive. I guess I can choke down the chocolate whey. Bars are worthless because of the maltodextrin. That and they bullshit on the wrapper. Shakes are good only if you make them yourself. Otherwise they are way too expensive.
 

Matt

Member
OK, first of all, thanks to everyone for their help so far.

Secondly, OK, so so far I’ll:

1. Do 20 minuets of jogging everyday.
2. Cut back on fatty foods, cut out soda entirely, drink a ton of water.
3. I have have protein shake powder that gives me 55 grams of protein a serving. If I have two of those a day, god or bad?
4. Do alternating muscle exercises everyday, 3 (?) sets of 6-8 reps with maximum possible weight.

OK, so far, my problem is that I don’t really have access to any machines. I have a bench and a ton of free weights, and I can get to the gym maybe once a week, but other then that, I’m stuck with the free weights. Can anyone tell me the best exercises to do with these for each muscle groups, what order and on what days to do them in?
 

ToxicAdam

Member
When I was 18 yrs old I was a rail. 5'11 and 165 pounds.

In March of that year I began training. At the advice of a good friend, I focused on TWO body parts. My arms and my traps/shoulders. In a few months I was able to make a noticable difference in both areas. I was able to train each body part 3 times a week, and I wasn't exhausted/overwhelmed by doing MY WHOLE BODY.

I would like to pass this on to you. Focus on two body parts. Train them three times a week. You will see great improvement, which will then be motivation to do your whole body.
 

Boomer

Member
Matt said:
OK, first of all, thanks to everyone for their help so far.

Secondly, OK, so so far I’ll:

1. Do 20 minuets of jogging everyday.
2. Cut back on fatty foods, cut out soda entirely, drink a ton of water.
3. I have have protein shake powder that gives me 55 grams of protein a serving. If I have two of those a day, god or bad?
4. Do alternating muscle exercises everyday, 3 (?) sets of 6-8 reps with maximum possible weight.

OK, so far, my problem is that I don’t really have access to any machines. I have a bench and a ton of free weights, and I can get to the gym maybe once a week, but other then that, I’m stuck with the free weights. Can anyone tell me the best exercises to do with these for each muscle groups, what order and on what days to do them in?

If you're trying to bulk up, no need for jogging. No need for lifting every day either. Also, free weights are much better than machines. Don't use machines.
 
Do not try to lose weight and gain muscle at the same time. You will die (well, not really, but you won't get the results you're looking for). Leaner or buffer: make a choice and stick with it.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Muscle is not built in at the gym. Less reps at a higher weights can be more effective load on muscles. Plus, less reps = less time spent at the gym = easier time keeping concentration level high throughout workout.

I was listing guidelines for toning. More weight and lower reps is for bulk muscle growth, and in that case I'd agree with you. He may want to do that, but honestly it's not going to happen too much in 2 months. He's trying to impress teh ladies, which I seem to have the impression that they prefer toned men over the huge macho variety.

Also you shouldn't rush your workout unless you're going for power. If you want better definition do your reps slowly with a full range of motion.



Again, don't cut down on fatty foods. Cut down on Omega 6 and synthetic fats. Cutting all fats from your diet is a serious hazard to your health. You're brain needs plenty of Omega 3s with DHA to function properly. The lack of it in our typical western diet is the root of all these disorders (ADD, depression, etc.). I have recently conquered my ADD by increasing my Omega 3 w/ DHA intake.
 

haunts

Bacon of Hope
I found working out just for one event is pretty useless. You have to really want to do it long term for it to be anything to even look into. Otherwise, you will do it for a week or two then just give up. You have to make it a routine like brushing your teeth. Getting laid is jsut a biproduct of what can happen if you work out alot. You should do it to stay healthy and feel better about yourself first and foremost. Once you are healthy and feel good aobut yourself, going to prom with a girl or going out to the club to meet a chick is a lot easier.
 
The Experiment said:
- Eat 10x bodyweight
10x 150 pounds... mmm.. Eat 1500 pounds! Whatever you eat, better START EATING!

Eating too much protein probably brings reading/writing disorders.

You have a choice now. Either believe some moron on a gaming forum, or believe a PHD and an MD talking about protein needs. Use your wits and you will succeed!

Here's the MD and PHD. The moron on a gaming forum, you can figure out by yourself.
http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/articles/nutrition/protein_2/
 

Boomer

Member
Foreign Jackass said:
10x 150 pounds... mmm.. Eat 1500 pounds! Whatever you eat, better START EATING!

Eating too much protein probably brings reading/writing disorders.

You have a choice now. Either believe some moron on a gaming forum, or believe a PHD and an MD talking about protein needs. Use your wits and you will succeed!

Here's the MD and PHD. The moron on a gaming forum, you can figure out by yourself.
http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/articles/nutrition/protein_2/

I'm going to believe the thousands of bodybuilders over the doctors. KTHXBYE
 
Boomer said:
I'm going to believe the thousands of bodybuilders over the doctors. KTHXBYE
Bodybuilders die young and have health problems very early in their life. KTHXBYE

P.S. You still haven't corrected your 1500 pounds mistake.
 

Boomer

Member
Foreign Jackass said:
Bodybuilders die young and have health problems very early in their life. KTHXBYE

P.S. You still haven't corrected your 1500 pounds mistake.

I guess all these protein supplements are just a scam, then, since you can't use more than 60g of protein per day (or whatever you claim).

P.S. I didn't make the mistake.
 
why did you lose so much damn weight anyway? I mean, at 5'11 195 you probably could have lost 10-15 lbs, but down to 150? You must look like the skinny guy from Road Trip.
 

Boomer

Member
Ninja Scooter said:
why did you lose so much damn weight anyway? I mean, at 5'11 195 you probably could have lost 10-15 lbs, but down to 150? You must look like the skinny guy from Road Trip.

:lol

roadtrip4.gif
 
Boomer said:
I guess all these protein supplements are just a scam, then, since you can't use more than 60g of protein per day (or whatever you claim).
I'm just saying you should trust DOCTORS, who are HEALTH SPECIALISTS, instead of STUPID BLOATED NARCISSISTS, who DIE YOUNG AND HAVE HEALTH PROBLEMS. Don't trust ME, I'm not a macho man OR a doctor.
 
teh_pwn said:
I was listing guidelines for toning. More weight and lower reps is for bulk muscle growth, and in that case I'd agree with you. He may want to do that, but honestly it's not going to happen too much in 2 months. He's trying to impress teh ladies, which I seem to have the impression that they prefer toned men over the huge macHo variety.
But why tone muscle when you can build muscle, especially if you have little muscle to begin with? Shouldn't toning really be reserved for senior citizens (as to not put undue stress on joints with heavy weights), fit young women (who are imposed by a general societal view of female attractiveness where less bulk is more attractive), and a specific variety of athletes who form their body to excel at one (or a small number) of physically demanding yet streamlined activities? Yes, once you have trained consistently for a number of years, there may come a point where one does not want to gain any more muscle mass, but it is apparent that is not the case for Matt and the majority of others reading this thread. Let's not fool ourselves here, being muscularly fit and being grotesquely muscular are two very different states of body. Worry about the latter after years of training, not months.

teh_pwn said:
Also you shouldn't rush your workout unless you're going for power. If you want better definition do your reps slowly with a full range of motion.
Well, I would argue that you should never rush your workout, regardless of your toning, strength or muscle growth goals. Many excercises, however, are most effective (for muscle growth) with explosive positive contraction, in particular, arms, legs, and back.

Definition comes from lower percentage of body fat, not slower, full-range repetitions. Of course, the catch here is one should have substantial muscles to define; therefore, muscle growth factors

OpinionatedCyborg said:
Do not try to lose weight and gain muscle at the same time. You will die (well, not really, but you won't get the results you're looking for). Leaner or buffer: make a choice and stick with it.
You may change your tune after reading about the Max-OT program and related scientific research.

Matt said:
1. Do 20 minuets of jogging everyday.
2. Cut back on fatty foods, cut out soda entirely, drink a ton of water.
3. I have have protein shake powder that gives me 55 grams of protein a serving. If I have two of those a day, god or bad?
4. Do alternating muscle exercises everyday, 3 (?) sets of 6-8 reps with maximum possible weight
I highly advise signing up (for free) and reading the Max-OT link above. It gives detailed nutritional guidelines and a variety of excercises for each muscle group. Even if you do not follow the program, it is a very science-driven and informative starting point for anyone looking for the path to a healthier body.

The Experiment said:
As for the person who said too much protein is bad, they're wrong. The whole protein is bad has been debunked constantly. They mean that for regular joes whose only exercise is picking up the remote. For muscle maintenance and growth, much more is needed. Amino acids are needed for muscle building and 63 grams sure as fuck isn't going to cut it, especially with absorption rate only being 25%. Maybe if you are consuming 100g of Amino Acids daily, you'll need it from protein.
Amen.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Freaky, I see what you're saying now. Yeah, he should do strength training until he's comfortable with his size. The reason I mentioned rushed workouts is because you listed that one of the benefits of weight training with low reps is less time.


Hero, to permanently lose weight, you're going to have to make a lifestyle commitment. The biggest problem with the Atkins diet is that people don't follow it properly. Instead of people eating high quality meats like steak, fish, nuts, etc, you see people eating bacon chedder wraps with synthetic candy that has warnings saying that you'll have loose stools if you consume more than one a day...

The second problem with atkin's diet is that you do need some carbs in your diet, but you need to make sure they are healthy carbs. No white bread, soda, sugar or generally anything processed. Instead you need whole grains.

So to lose weight you should eat plenty of high quality fruits, vegetables, and protein with some high quality whole grains. Drink water and nothing else. Set realistic goals, do like 30 minutes of continuous cardio a few times a week. You don't have to exercise to lose weight, its just faster and healthier if you do.

If you have constant cravings, you're not eating right. If you have them even tho your eating healthy, then I'd consider a good dietary supplement. I take these, and I really can tell a difference even tho I eat damn well:

http://dan.xtend-life.com/products.asp?product=tb&page=mens_plus

They're expensive, but you get what you pay for.
 

effzee

Member
I just had a few things to mention.

Matt, if your going to do the 20 minute cardio in hopes to lose weight, I think the most important aspect of this was left out. Make sure you do it at very high intensity. Basically after the 20 minutes you shouldn't be able to go on. A good way to do this is to do interval training where u would jog for 2 minutes, sprint for 1 for the whole 20 minutes.

Secondly, there is no such thing as toning muscles. It simply doesn't exist. What freakyfink is saying is right. Even if u want to just tone up, heavier weights with lower reps is still the faster way of getting the tone. The bigger ur muscles get, the more they will become visible and the second and more important aspect of it is the diet. If you eat right, and work with heavy weights and low reps, you'll get toned up much faster.

And lastly, about the whole protein thing, it really irks me to see people still hung up on this issue. If they bother to do research, this problem wouldn't occur. Well i manage to pull up a good Q & A from Max OT's website that shows that protein diets of upto 2 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight is safe.

An article written by a sports nutritionist suggested that high protein diets that bodybuilders follow are unnecessary and also potentially unhealthy. This nutritionist quotes potential negative side effects as dehydration, gout, loss of calcium, and liver and kidney damage. What do you think of this Paul?

A:

This is a case of pure ignorance being passed on as scientific information. As Paul Delia says "Where does the ignorance stop? It stops right here!" I've read the article your referring to and this health professional needs to stick to the reporting the research and keep his ill-informed opinions to himself.

To date there is no published evidence that a high protein diet produces any negative effect on metabolism in bodybuilders or any other type of athletes.

Recently, a comprehensive study completed by Jacques Poortmans and Oliver Dellalieux (published in Int. J. Sport Nutr. & Exerc. Metab. 11;28-35:2001) at the University of Brussels in Belgium investigated this aspect directly.

These scientists assessed whether high protein diets affect the health and kidney function of bodybuilders and other athletes. Their study involved 20 bodybuilders and 18 other highly trained athletes that consumed a high protein diet. (Approximately 2 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight per day. More than double the recommended daily allowance.)

Their diets were analyzed to provide total calorie, protein, fat, carbohydrate, and calcium intake each day. Blood and urine samples were taken from the athletes and spectrum of analyses were performed looking at glomerular filtration rate (creatinine clearance), potential change in glomerular membrane permeability (albumin excretion rate), urea and uric acid clearance, nitrogen and calcium balances and any modification in kidney free water balance.

In addition to the resting condition, the researchers also wanted to obtain other data that would be important to hard training athletes. Very intense exercise temporarily impairs kidney function (a natural, safe, and regular process). However, the research wanted to see if a high protein diet would produce a detrimental impact on this physiological aspect. So analyses were performed before and directly after a bout of very intense (cycling) exercise.

Some of the athlete's in the study were documented to have protein intakes as high as 2.8 grams per kilogram of body weight per day. However, when the results came in, the high protein athletes showed no fundamental differences that could be associated with damage or impaired kidney function in any way.

These athletes did show higher values for creatinine and uric acid clearance, However, all readings fell within the upper limit of normal levels. Despite the high protein intake there was no accumulation of urea, demonstrating no toxicity. Glomerular filtration rates were normal and there were no signs of even moderate hyperfiltration. This aspect is important.

Hyperfiltration seems to precede the excess excretion of protein plasma into the urine. It is an indicator of the amount of "stress" on the kidneys. The albumin clearance rates also supported the observation that a high protein diet does not stress healthy kidneys. In fact, all readings taken from these athletes proved absolutely normal. Their kidney function was in no way effected by a high protein diet.

The combination of high protein intake and intense exercise didn't appear to impair any aspect of kidney function either. The reduction of several clearance rates as a result of the intense exercise were in line with other reported observations in exercising humans.

Nutritionists often site high protein diets to cause of excessive calcium loss. However, all calcium excretion rates fell within normal ranges. This was despite the bodybuilders taking in higher amounts of calcium in their diets! The bodybuilders absorbed more calcium from their diets! The researchers suggested one reason for this may be that bodybuilding places a higher load on the musculoskeletal system and therefore bodybuilders require more calcium.

There was no difference between the bodybuilder's and the other athlete's calcium excretion levels.

The medical community uses protein ingestion as a key determinant of kidney function and a marker of kidney "health". High protein diets do produce high amounts of urea, an end product of protein metabolism that is excreted in urine. Because of their physical activity, athletes are at risk of dehydration. Severe dehydration limits urea excretion, so theoretically, high protein diets may place stress on the liver (to oxidize excessive protein) and on the kidneys (causing glomerulonephritis-a mechanism of hypertension).

Research has shown that low protein diets reduce the progression of renal failure in patients with kidney disease. For these two aspects, (but no scientific evidence) high protein diets have earned an undeservedly bad reputation within the medical community.

The scientists responsible for this research concluded that high protein intakes of 170 to 243% of the RDA show no toxicity, dehydration, calcium loss or impairment of kidney function. Also, the researchers cautioned that some of the upper-end clearance ranges of some clinical markers witnessed in this study are not solely related to a high protein diet as many other individual differences play a big part in this regard.

The researchers concluded and recommended that high protein diets should not be used as an "escape goat" to explain these variations.

http://www.ast-ss.com/dev/qa_search/full_text.asp?ID=1331
 

SlickWilly223

Time ta STEP IT UP
Hmmm, I don't know what one person can do in 2 months. A lot of people always say "Yah, I'll get ripped! I'll be lean! I'll have washboard abs and a barn-door back in no time! I'll show 'em!"

But then when it comes down to it, they just don't do things right or they're too lazy.

This isn't your situation obviously, but I think that as long as you don't set your goals too high and you do some of the things these fine people suggested, you'll accomplish some good.

As for myself, after my neck heals I'm going to take things to the next level. I'm going to take creatine for the first time in a long while, along with my usual protein intake just to see what happens before my vacation in july.

Anyway, good luck to you. You'll do fine.
 

theo

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The hardest part or working out is getting your ass to the gym. Once you walk through the door you have it made.

Even if you don't feel like doing it on a particular day, do it anyways. I always find I feel 10x better after a good workout.
 

effzee

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Cut down on Omega 6 and synthetic fats.
Where did u get this info on omega 6 fat being bad? its one of the 2 essential fats we need for life itself and has to be considered a part of every healthy persons diet. Its true that we need more Omega 3 than 6 but Omega 6 is by no means something u should be looking ot cut down on, the most important thing to look out for is saturated, rancid fats and trans fatty acids.
 
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