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New Fitness Thread. I Have 2 Months to Get In Shape...
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SlickWilly223
Time ta STEP IT UP
I dunno, I sort of bulked up by doing heavy weights with few reps, then I just lost a little weight and got ripped.
I mean that say if someone is new to lifting weights. If they are lifting heavy weights with low reps, they will develop muscles much faster and these muscles will become more visible or more cut. Now to see the muscle even better (aka get toned or cut up) you can eat healty and you'll lose the fat around the muscles so the muscles will become more defined looking. Basically the bigger the muscle, the easier it is too see. Someone using heavy weight and low reps and eating right will get cut up way faster than a person that is trying to tone with just eating right or high reps and low weight.huh? Muscle tone is a matter of shedding excess bodyfat, not building bigger muscles. At least that's what eveyrthing I ever read or listen to says. What you're talking about sounds more like bulking to me. Got a link to where I can read more about your view?
Two months of heavy lifting and clean eating for a teenage male who is healthy should yield some pretty impressive results.
I'd recommend an intense full body routine done three times a week. Pick 4-5 major compound movements and do 4 to 6 reps for each set. Try to increase the weight on each exercise every 2 weeks or so.
You should notice some results pretty quickly.
I'd recommend an intense full body routine done three times a week. Pick 4-5 major compound movements and do 4 to 6 reps for each set. Try to increase the weight on each exercise every 2 weeks or so.
You should notice some results pretty quickly.
FreakyFink
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karasu said:huh? Muscle tone is a matter of shedding excess bodyfat, not building bigger muscles. At least that's what eveyrthing I ever read or listen to says. What you're talking about sounds more like bulking to me. Got a link to where I can read more about your view?
effzee said:mean that say if someone is new to lifting weights. If they are lifting heavy weights with low reps, they will develop muscles much faster and these muscles will become more visible or more cut. Now to see the muscle even better (aka get toned or cut up) you can eat healty and you'll lose the fat around the muscles so the muscles will become more defined looking. Basically the bigger the muscle, the easier it is too see. Someone using heavy weight and low reps and eating right will get cut up way faster than a person that is trying to tone with just eating right or high reps and low weight.
Karasu, your definition of muscle toning probably better describes defining or defintion; that is, muscles appear more visible on one's body due to less fat around the muscle. However, muscle toning means different things to different people/companies. The indiscriminte use of muscle toning today makes the term about as specific as get in shape.
FYI, traditionally muscle tone refers to the elasticity of the muscle.
And just so we're all on the same page, one cannot spot reduce fat. It's just not possible.
So, back to Karasu's definition: the common misconception of "toning" muscle through more reps with lighter weights can produce more visible muscle (aka muscle definition), but simply as a result of muscle growth, i.e. bigger muscles, combined with the physical demand of weightlifting, which expends energy/calories leading to likely body fat loss.
Where did u get this info on omega 6 fat being bad? its one of the 2 essential fats we need for life itself and has to be considered a part of every healthy persons diet. Its true that we need more Omega 3 than 6 but Omega 6 is by no means something u should be looking ot cut down on, the most important thing to look out for is saturated, rancid fats and trans fatty acids.
Agreed that they're not bad. They're bad when they are in excess. Many believe that your fat intake of Omega6:Omega3 shoul be between 3:1 and 1:1 but the average american diet is around 20:1.
Omega 6 is in everything. You can't completely eliminate it but you can limit it. Omega3 on the other hand is much harder to get. Omega3 with DHA, which is much better for you as DHA gives huge brain benefits, is hard to get and can only be found in things like wild deep water fish. Omega3 from plants lack DHA but have AHA which can be converted to DHA. However a healthy body's conversion efficiency is like 10%. High amounts of Omega6s reduce this conversion rate.
Here's some links:
http://borntoexplore.org/omega.htm
http://www.askdrsears.com/html/4/t040400.asp#T040408
http://addadhdadvances.com/efa-depression.html
Its also important that you don't work yourself too much. i mean you don't want to work out too much, and in take too few calories, that you'll end up hurting yourself. When you say that you'll cut out the "junk" make sure that you don't cut out too much (because do remember that we need fats.. a few years ago i read a scary article about a mom not feeding her newborn baby any fats and well the baby died). If your going to prom your about 17 or 18 so your young. I mean you can't put as much strain on yourself as like a fully developed man can. Also in addition you have to think about who your really trying to impress. Congrats to loosing about 40lbs, but 150lbs for a guy of your statue is like normal. I can't see how/ why you would want to loose more weight. Going back to the area of food, if you really want to do yourself well, i would create a spread sheet, and calculate how much calories you want to intake and how much food you want to eat. This seriously helps with overeating because you are truly aware of how much food you are ingesting.
Good luck! Have fun at your Prom
P.S. so be honest with us... is the real reason your here asking us about how to trim down for Prom, is because you want/ expecting to get laid, and you want to show your date the muscle man you truly are hidden under flab? :lol
Good luck! Have fun at your Prom
P.S. so be honest with us... is the real reason your here asking us about how to trim down for Prom, is because you want/ expecting to get laid, and you want to show your date the muscle man you truly are hidden under flab? :lol
karasu said:huh? Muscle tone is a matter of shedding excess bodyfat, not building bigger muscles. At least that's what eveyrthing I ever read or listen to says. What you're talking about sounds more like bulking to me. Got a link to where I can read more about your view?
Muscle "tone" is not really about losing fat. It's more about having a high muscle:fat ratio. If you have a lot of muscle and fat to begin with, losing fat would get you there faster. If you're a skinny but flabby guy, building muscle will get you there faster.
I'd rather be cut/tone then bulk up. Having agility, speed, and strength is a plus for me.
Also, does anyone know if you can still your legs bigger by not doing squats? My messed up my back and this is how I do my leg workouts:
superset with leg press and leg curls. Then I do hack squats. Then leg extension with supersetting lunges.
Also, does anyone know if you can still your legs bigger by not doing squats? My messed up my back and this is how I do my leg workouts:
superset with leg press and leg curls. Then I do hack squats. Then leg extension with supersetting lunges.
WrathOfOtaibah
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OK, first of all, thanks to everyone for their help so far.
Secondly, OK, so so far Ill:
1. Do 20 minuets of jogging everyday.
2. Cut back on fatty foods, cut out soda entirely, drink a ton of water.
3. I have have protein shake powder that gives me 55 grams of protein a serving. If I have two of those a day, god or bad?
4. Do alternating muscle exercises everyday, 3 (?) sets of 6-8 reps with maximum possible weight.
OK, so far, my problem is that I dont really have access to any machines. I have a bench and a ton of free weights, and I can get to the gym maybe once a week, but other then that, Im stuck with the free weights. Can anyone tell me the best exercises to do with these for each muscle groups, what order and on what days to do them in?
1) If you really want the best results, HIIT is best. It would only take 20 minutes. For cardio, its best to do it at low levels for a long time (45-60 minutes) or really intense for a short amount of time.
2) Good. Eat clean. No bread either. If you must, wheat. Wheat has High Fructose Corn Syrup, the same shit as in soda. Unless you go to an indie health store and get 100% whole grain from there.
3) 55 is a lot. Its not bad. I'd take it once in the morning to prevent catabolism. Cortisol levels are running high (cortisol = fat retaining muscle burning) and then take it again after your workout.
4) I'd only do reps of 5-6. There is no such thing as higher reps = more toning. Don't use machines either unless you absolutely have to. Machines are inferior to free weights in every way.
10x 150 pounds... mmm.. Eat 1500 pounds! Whatever you eat, better START EATING!
In calories. I thought that was a given. However, given your name and your clusterfuck "research", I guess I was wrong.
Bodybuilders die young and have health problems very early in their life. KTHXBYE
:lol Oh man. I'm done with this piece of shit.
Ninja Scooter
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since this is a workout thread, what would you guys recommend as far as a regime. I just want to get toned and lean up a little, so should i cut back on weights? My basic regime now is weights every other day (usually just free weights stuff, im trying not to get TOO bulky) and regular excercise (running, cardio, situps, pushups, ect...) every single day.
Ninja Scooter said:since this is a workout thread, what would you guys recommend as far as a regime. I just want to get toned and lean up a little, so should i cut back on weights? My basic regime now is weights every other day (usually just free weights stuff, im trying not to get TOO bulky) and regular excercise (running, cardio, situps, pushups, ect...) every single day.
Do more cardio. If you're happy with the amount of muscle you have now, just do machines. Free weights tend to bulk you up faster than machines. Situps are a waste of time if you already have abs..you're not gonna burn much fat down there by doing situps, although your abs will get bigger. Cardio and using the ab machines will work better. By the way, it's regimeN
Ninja Scooter
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Boomer said:Do more cardio. If you're happy with the amount of muscle you have now, just do machines. Free weights tend to bulk you up faster than machines. Situps are a waste of time if you already have abs..you're not gonna burn much fat down there by doing situps, although your abs will get bigger. Cardio and using the ab machines will work better. By the way, it's regimeN
i was talking about my REGIME! :lol
so you think i should just cut back on weights entirely? Or maybe limit it to 2-3 times a week? Im pretty happy with my muscles in my arms/chest, i just want to get a little more cut.
WrathOfOtaibah
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NEVER CUT DOWN ON WEIGHTS
Weight lifting, especially heavy weights, is beneficial from muscle gain to fat loss. If you want to lose fat, its essential so you don't lose muscle. Then you'll be skinny fat with loose skin.
As for your plan, lift four times a week with a 4 day split. Then for two of the other days, do HIIT cardio. HIIT is the most intense out there and in many circles, considered a workout itself. Its basically sprinting until you almost feel ready to pass out. You'll still want to lift chest and abs because your body will be more willing to get rid of muscle it doesn't need instead of fat. This is where high protein consumption and heavy lifting come into play.
As for being too bulky, that all comes down to how much you eat. If you eat 5000 calories a day, you'll make gains. If you are maintenance (15 x bodyweight in calories), then you can most likely retain size.
Remember these phrases:
Eat big to get big
Eat clean to get lean
Abs are made in the kitchen, not at the gym
Weight lifting, especially heavy weights, is beneficial from muscle gain to fat loss. If you want to lose fat, its essential so you don't lose muscle. Then you'll be skinny fat with loose skin.
As for your plan, lift four times a week with a 4 day split. Then for two of the other days, do HIIT cardio. HIIT is the most intense out there and in many circles, considered a workout itself. Its basically sprinting until you almost feel ready to pass out. You'll still want to lift chest and abs because your body will be more willing to get rid of muscle it doesn't need instead of fat. This is where high protein consumption and heavy lifting come into play.
As for being too bulky, that all comes down to how much you eat. If you eat 5000 calories a day, you'll make gains. If you are maintenance (15 x bodyweight in calories), then you can most likely retain size.
Remember these phrases:
Eat big to get big
Eat clean to get lean
Abs are made in the kitchen, not at the gym
For those concerned about getting too bulky, let me tell you, unless you've got the perfect genetic potion, your not going to get bulked up really quickly. You'd have to be working like a pro body builder and take a load of supplements to see any significant bulk increase in 2 months. Use heavy weights and intense cardio until u reach your goal and than just keep your work out at that level to maintain that figure.
AssMan said:I'd rather be cut/tone then bulk up. Having agility, speed, and strength is a plus for me.
Also, does anyone know if you can still your legs bigger by not doing squats? My messed up my back and this is how I do my leg workouts:
superset with leg press and leg curls. Then I do hack squats. Then leg extension with supersetting lunges.
Leg presses and ham curls are pretty worthless. Go light on squats and deadlifts and rehab your back if possible.
Matt said:I know I can?t expect miracles, and I don?t, but I wanted to here people advice on what I can do to make the best use out of the time I have.
As any good personal trainer can tell you. You need at least 6 months to see a decent change in lifestyle. 2 months is enough time to get you going, but unless you are going to use performance enhancers you are not going to do shit.
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